Re: Jamie Collins
posted at 8/8/2013 12:10 PM EDT
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Collins draws notice from Ninkovich August, 7, 2013 Aug 7 1:45 PM ET By Field Yates | ESPNBoston.com
PHILADELPHIA -- One of the intriguing new defensive players for the Patriots entering the 2013 season is top draft choice Jamie Collins, a hybrid player in college who might be asked to adopt a similar role in the pros. During his productive career at Southern Mississippi, Collins worked both off the line as a linebacker and on the edge as a defensive end, things we've seen him do thus far with the Patriots as well.
Collins has a veteran group of front-seven players to learn from in New England, Rob Ninkovich among them. Ninkovich has some similarities to Collins in that he's played multiple roles with the Patriots, working as both an end-of-the-line player and dropping into coverage on occasion.
Following Wednesday's joint practice with the Eagles, Ninkovich dissected some of the challenges of platooning between two different roles, noting that not every NFL linebacker is capable of handling both duties.
"You have to have more of a defensive end skill set mentality to move from linebacker," he said. "It's much harder to go from off the ball to right on the ball -- because everything happens much quicker -- than it is to start on the ball and back up. I think that first and foremost, playing defensive line helps you take guys on, have better technique, use your hands well, and then when you convert to linebacker it just kind of works together."
Throughout the course of a game, there are instances when a player is moved from linebacker to defensive end -- and back -- on a play-to-play basis. Ninkovich said making the adjustment becomes second nature for a player.
"It's kind of subconscious, because you hear the play, you know what your technique is and what your responsibilities are, so it's just you hear the play [and think instantly], this is what I'm doing, it's not really like -- you know when you're a D-end and when you're a linebacker, let's put it that way," he said.
He stressed the importance of patience in moving from a hand-in-the-dirt alignment to playing off the line of scrimmage and in coverage.
"It takes a little bit to get used to coverage," he said. "As a defender, when you're a defensive end, you're always taught get to the ball, get to the ball, chase, chase. When you're a linebacker, you have to be more patient, wait for things to develop. Routes don't just happen instantly, you've got to be patient, so I think that's the hardest part, is learning to not be so aggressive and let things develop, be patient. The receiver will tell you where the ball's going with their routes."
Just how prominent of a role Collins plays this season remains to be seen. While it's still early in training camp, Ninkovich likes what the rookie has shown so far.
"Been impressed with Jamie," Ninkovich continued. "Great athlete, runs well, I'm excited to see him get more involved in the defense." http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4746307/collins-draws-notice-from-ninkovich I'm excited to see this kid play. Nink knows his stuff, if he's impressed with Collins then watch out! I think he's gonna be a stud but that's just the homer in me talking.
YOU'RE NOT being just a HOMER AP, he is for real. Dude is a bonifide star. He has all the tools and will knock your dik in the dirt. Lots of speed and agility and great insticts. Excellent in coverage. If he can stay healthy, he will be our next great defensive player.
Ooh look at those muscles! A star in the making! Honestly, he looks to be having a decent camp as a rookie. But can we say anything else other than he seems to have been a good 2nd round pick? Showing something in camp is better than riding the excercise bike but I'll hold off on the "real deal" proclamations for now.
Dude it ain't about the muscles, I've got more than enoug of my own to flaunt......Its about putting the name to a face. This kid is rare. He is already in the kind of physical condition that most NFL veterans shoot for and he is just a rook. I'll say it again......It is only too early for those who don't have the ability to evaluate a player's skillset, experience or vision to understand how those skills translate to the pro level, or understand what it takes to be a "star" in any football league. So, I understand where you are coming from. No offense intended. The guy was a standout HS QB, turned Safety, turned 6'3, 250lb LB with sick athleticism. He flew under the radar for most as he comes from an 0-12 USM team where he lead all of Conference USA in tackles 2nd in fumbels caused. Smart, can run, and is likely the athletic freak of the draft. Me, I say if the guy stays healthy, you will hear the "experts" gush about this kid for as long as he is in the league. What they are saying now is only the beginning.....