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    [QUOTE]     An important win for the Patriots against their chief divisional rival (yeah...I know Buffalo is 4-1). But, it was disappointing watching the Patriots keep the Jets in the game due to some horrible red-zone offense, dropped passes, and a special teams gaffe...that nearly cost them the game. What could have and should have been a blow-out win, was reduced to a hard-fought game. Here are my grades: I. OFFENSE: Why can't the Pats' OL do a better job of picking up Sexy Rexy's blitzes? Poor execution in the red-zone nearly proved costly. 1.) QB: When given time, Tom was able to find the open man running through  the vaunted Jets' secondary. He finished with 24 completions in 33 attempts for 321 yards, a TD, and one costly red-zone pick. It happened at the close of the first half. Though this particular throw was a wobbler, it hit TE Aaron Hernandez in his hands, and should have been caught for a TD. But, instead, the ball clanged off his hands, into the waiting arms of the hated Antonio Cromartie.       That play was sandwiched between two big plays to Wes Welker, that set up the first two Patriots' TD. There was a 32 yard laser in the first quarter, and a 73 yard bomb, in the third quarter. Though Tom has had better games, he was practically turnover free. When the Pats play the Jets and don't turn the ball over, they'll win...every time: GRADE: B+; 2.) RBs: Injuries to Danny Woodhead, Kevin Faulk, and Shane Vereen left the ball carrying duties in the hands of BJGE, and rookie Stevan Ridley. Believe it or not, there's been a ton of talk that Ridley should be the Pats' #1 RB option. But today, BJGE showed why he is the Pats' top RB...rushing for 136 yards on 27 attempts, and two TDs. With the score at 27-21 late in the fourth quarter, Green-Ellis took the game over, and made sure that the Jets wouldn't get a chance to overtake the Pats. Huge 14 yard run on a 3rd and 4, late in the 4th quarter, might have been the play of the game. The "ground n' pound" today was by Benny, not the Jets:  GRADE: A; 3.) OL: The "Big Uglies" had plenty of problems picking up the Jets' blitz packages...as they allowed Tom Brady to be sacked 4 times, and hit on numerous other occasions. But, pretty much throughout the game, and especially late in the 4th quarter, this unit dominated the Jets front seven, as the Patriots were able to run out the clock on the Goblins: GRADE: B; 4.) TEs: It was great having Aaron Hernandez back. Though he clearly was not 100%, he took some of the heat off of Wes Welker, contributing contributing 5 catches for 56 yards. But, the aforementioned drop he had at the end of the first half cost the Patriots a TD. Though Rob Gronkowski had just 4 catches for 31 yards, he also contributed with his blocking in the running game. But, he wasn't much of a factor in the red-zone. Nonetheless, both TEs contributed mightily on the Pats' third TD drive in the 3rd quarter (Brady to Gronk to convert a 3rd and 13, and a 3rd and 2 to sustain the 77 yard drive...and a 21 yard play from Brady to Hernandez to put the Pats in scoring position), which staked the Pats to a commanding 24-14 lead:  GRADE: B-; 5.) WRs: Though the Jets surely made him a marked man, somehow, someway, the "Wild Wild Wes" found a way. Though held to just 5 receptions, he had those huge aforementioned 32 and 73 yard plays, which set up TDs...as he finishing with 124 receiving yards. Deion Branch also chipped in with a solid 7 catches for 74 yards, and a TD: GRADE: B+; II. DEFENSE: By far, this unit's best game of the season. Though some of the credit must go to the somewhat punch-less Jets, this group by and large shut "The Shanchize" down. The "D" allowed the Jets to convert on just 3 of 11 third down attempts, and just 255 total yards of offense. That said, the "D" couldn't stop the Jets in the red-zone. Nonetheless, as well as the "D" played today, the Jets had no business being within 6 points of the Pats, late in the 4th quarter; 1.) DL: Though the Jets tried to "ground and pound", for the most part, they couldn't. DTs Kyle Love and Vince Wilfolk were able to clog up the running lanes, clearing things for the LBs and safeties to make tackles. DE Andre Carter had a strong game with 7 tackles, of which four were solos. But, as usual, there was a minimal rush from the front four...although Mark Anderson was able to wrap up Mark Sanchez in the dying seconds: GRADE: B; 2.) LBs: Nice job by LBs Gary Guyton and Brandon Spikes in relief of Jerod Mayo...as the two combined for 15 tackles, 9 of which were solos. Jets RBs and TEs did no damage throughout the game. OLB Rob Ninkovich assisted on 6 tackles, and was credited with half of sack: GRADE: B+; 3.) SECONDARY: Solid play from safeties Patrick Chung and ex-Jet, James Ihedigbo, as the two combined for 15 tackles, including 9 solos. Although nearly always a pain in the neck for the Pats, Jets' TE Dustin Keller was an invisible man today. Aside from letting Jets' WRs Santonio Holmes and Jeremy Curley slip away for easy TD receptions, the CBs by and large were effective...as the Jets passed for only 166 yards: GRADE: B; III. SPECIAL TEAMS: Aside from the performance of kickers Stephen Gostkowski (3 FGs) and Zoltan "The Magnificent" (51.3 yard average on 4 punts), the special teams were terrible. The Jets Joe McKnight had a couple of excellent kickoff returns, including one for 88 yards. It came immediately after Wes Welker huge 73 yard catch...which led to a TD, and a 17-7 Patriots lead. It gave the Jets a gift TD...and allowed them to stay in the game, at 17-14. There was also a Wes Welker fumble in the first quarter...which the Patriots fortunately were able to recover. Such mistakes cannot be tolerated, nor made, especially against good teams. Welker would subsequently make a beautiful 25 yards punt return near the end of the 3rd quarter, setting up a Gostkowski FG. GRADE: C-;     IV. COACHING: Good job by BB and the boys in eliminating the TE and RB from the Jets' passing offense...which forced Mark Sanchez to beat them by throwing down-field. But, the "D" couldn't stop the Jets in the red-zone, and the "O" got held to FGs on a couple of occasions.       Yes...this was a win. But I'm bothered by the fact that although the Patriots outplayed the Jets the way they did...that this was still a close game. The reasons for this are that the Pats are still having problems dealing with the Jets' blitz packages. This is leading to Tom Brady being hit/sacked too often. Furthermore, mistakes such as dropped passes, and poor special teams' play, must be cleaned up...if the Pats hope to have Peyton Manning watching them play in Indianapolis, this February: GRADE: B; V. PLAYS OF THE GAME: The obvious pick is the 73 yard Brady to Welker bomb at the start of the 3rd quarter...which led to the Pats increasing their lead to 17-7. But, that play was practically negated by the McKnight 88 yard kickoff return, which led to the gap being closed to 17-14.       The games' biggest play might have been on a 3rd and 13 at the Patriots' own 20, with under 5 minutes to play in the 3rd quarter. Joe McKnight had just fueled the Jets with momentum after his above mentioned 88 yard, leading to a Jets' TD...and cutting the Pats' lead to 17-14. Brady would hit Rob Gronkowski down the right sideline for a 17 yard play, and a first and 10 to the Patriots' 37. The Pats would continue an 11 play, 77 yard drive, to regain command of the game, and increase their lead to 24-14. Had the Jets held the Pats here, forcing a three and out, who knows how this game might have turned out?      Finally, there was the 3rd and 4 with 3:43 left in the game, at the Jets' 46...when BJGE gained 14 yards on a direct snap...which pretty much iced the game. VI. PLAYER OF THE GAME: Tom Brady, Wes Welker, and BJGE all are deserving. But, if I have to choose one, I'll go with "The Law Firm".      Here are the game stats: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=311009017      Your comments and opinions are welcome.                                   
    Posted by TexasPat3[/QUOTE]

    A lot of good points but some points I will make:
    1. BJGE was able to run the ball in part because the Jets put extra DBs in the game much of the time he was on the field - daring the Pats to run it. BJGE did a great job as did the blocking, but it was in part because of the flaws in the Jets D strategy. Thanks to BRADY for making those calls at the line of scrimmage to hadn the ball off.
    2. Ridley did not get much of anything but the D was set with more respect fo rhim than BJGE. They were not giving the same dare with Ridley in the game.
    3. Gronk was very good in the red zone. His blocks were great. He was also responsible for many key blocks for BJGE throughout the game. Gronk is a guy who gives a whole lot of value even when he isnt catching a pass.
    4. You overrate the D from top to bottom - though they played better than any other game so far this year. Spikes was nothing special. Guyton choked on some more tackles. THe DEs were nothing much at all. THey make Nink's job much harder too often. Love made a play or two but was mostly so so. Vince was very good. Haynesworth may have had no stats but there were a number of plays where he caused some problems for the Jets line. THere were a number of break downs in the secondary - the Holmes TD pass being the most flagrant. But a few bad passes by the mediocre Sanchez, a handful of dropped passes (some on not so well thrown balls) and the Jets may have been a better test. - Yes the D played better than before but D line no better than C+, LBs no better then C+ secondary no better then C or C-.

    I know that with 7 3 and outs this sounds harsh but the Jets shot themselves in the foot enough times to make this as much about them as about the Pats D. Still, this is a lot better than the D grades they had been earning.

    5. Brady held the ball too long on a number of plays. Sometimes that ends up wokring out but Brady is not Rodgers in terms of scrambling and throwing on the run. I would give Brady a B for the game (maybe I am cutting hairs but this is Brady)

    6. KO coverage was HORRIBLE. F

    7. #66 Welch choked on some pass blocking assignments when he was next to Solder. It should have been easy for him on those plays. A disappointment.

     
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    Regarding the reversed calls (fumble by Branch reversed and catch by Burress reversed).

    In both cases it was CLEARLY the wrong call on the field:
    1. THe fumble - Branch's knee was still on the ground when he was first touched by a Jet. Play over at the point. Period. That he was in the process of moving the ball to another hand is irrelevant - he had not lost control at the moment of first contact. There is no continuation after the play ends. ON CONTACT.

    2. The front part of Burress second foot was clearly out of bounds when it came down. Just lazy unprofessional play by a head case with talent. Underperformer.... In any case, out of bounds.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Jets @ Patriots REPORT CARD :      If the Pats play this same way in NY, odds are they're getting beat. Still, not a bad effort, considering all the injuries that the team is currently dealing with. 
    Posted by TexasPat3[/QUOTE]

    That's what I keep thinking; when are Ras-I and Bodden coming back?
     
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     Your report was a bit more upbeat on the defensive side of the ball, but I saw that mainly as a result of Jet ineptitude. I thought that Spikes and Guyton were both clueless when they were in pass coverage. Zone is pretty easy to play and a couple of times Spikes even left his area of responsibility and got burned. Bodden also looked bad a couple of times when the ball was thrown his way. I know that the Jet yardage was down from what other teams had put up against us but I think it was more about the Jets poor play than any improvement on the part of the Patriots.
     Brady was sacked because he held the ball too long, but he was doing that because guys downfield weren't getting open. The Jets are among the best in the league in man coverage and that's what they were in on all of that blitzing.
     Finally, has anything good come this year from rushing three players? It drives me nuts when the Patriots do that cause they invariably get burned when the QB holds onto the ball for a long time and the receivers get separation. Our secondary is pretty mediocre and when they're asked to maintain coverage for more than a few seconds, you're just asking too much of them. I have a feeling that the Dallas game will be a better test for this defense.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Jets @ Patriots REPORT CARD : I too have seen my share... I think your missing my point which was it was good coaching to challenge both plays...
    Posted by Beantowne[/QUOTE]

         How am I "missing the Point", when I already acknowledged this above?
    This week I give the Coach an A. Two great challenges- won- that made a huge difference in game momentum and points for the PATS. And the adjustments the PATS made in the second half- after that painful first half was impressive.
    Posted by darwk


         Hello, my friend! Good point about BB's successful challenges.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Jets @ Patriots REPORT CARD : A lot of good points but some points I will make: 1. BJGE was able to run the ball in part because the Jets put extra DBs in the game much of the time he was on the field - daring the Pats to run it. BJGE did a great job as did the blocking, but it was in part because of the flaws in the Jets D strategy. Thanks to BRADY for making those calls at the line of scrimmage to hadn the ball off.
     
    RESPONSE: The Jets decided that they needed to concentrate on stopping Brady's aerial show...and this is how they did so. Despite the fact that the Jets were in a "run friendly" defense, the Pats, and BJGE, still had to execute against it. Got to give them some credit for doing so, don't you think? 

    2. Ridley did not get much of anything but the D was set with more respect for him than BJGE. They were not giving the same dare with Ridley in the game.
     
    RESPONSE: I didn't notice that. But, regardless...credit BJGE and the Pats' OL for making them pay;

    3. Gronk was very good in the red zone. His blocks were great. He was also responsible for many key blocks for BJGE throughout the game. Gronk is a guy who gives a whole lot of value even when he isnt catching a pass.
     
    RESPONSE: If you go back and look at the TE section of my report card, I credited Gronk for his blocking. But, the Jets did a good job of blanketing him in the red-zone...preventing Brady from targeting him in the end-zone.

    4. You overrate the D from top to bottom - though they played better than any other game so far this year. Spikes was nothing special. Guyton choked on some more tackles. The DEs were nothing much at all. They make Nink's job much harder too often. Love made a play or two but was mostly so so. Vince was very good. Haynesworth may have had no stats but there were a number of plays where he caused some problems for the Jets line.
     
    RESPONSE: Have to agree to disagree here. I thought Guyton and Spikes filled in very well for Mayo. Check the stats' sheet on Carter...he was in on a lot of plays. Vince, Love  and Haynesworth did a decent job of clogging up the middle.

    There were a number of break downs in the secondary - the Holmes TD pass being the most flagrant.

    RESPONSE: In the SECONDARY segment of my report card, I pointed this out.   

    But a few bad passes by the mediocre Sanchez, a handful of dropped passes (some on not so well thrown balls) and the Jets may have been a better test.
     
    RESPONSE: It was the same case with Jason Campbell last week. The Pats' shut down the run, and forced Campbell and Sanchez to beat them. Sanchez is no Brady. So, some poor throws are expected. As for dropped balls, the Pats had their share of those, too...including the Hernandez drop of a TD pass...that turned into a Jets' interception.

    - Yes the D played better than before but D line no better than C+, LBs no better then C+ secondary no better then C or C-. I know that with 7 3 and outs this sounds harsh but the Jets shot themselves in the foot enough times to make this as much about them as about the Pats D.
     
    RESPONSE: The Jets are not the Packers or Saints, offensively. The "D" was set to take away the run, and for Sanchez to beat them. For the most part, the strategy worked. Take away the 88 yard kickoff return, and the Jets had only two sustained TD drives.

    5. Brady held the ball too long on a number of plays. Sometimes that ends up working out but Brady is not Rodgers in terms of scrambling and throwing on the run. I would give Brady a B for the game (maybe I am cutting hairs but this is Brady)

    RESPONSE: I gave Brady a higher grade because, save for the one pick that wasn't his fault, he didn't turn the ball over. That's key when playing the Jets; 

    6. KO coverage was HORRIBLE.

    RESPONSE: True. I acknowledged that. But, I grade the entire special teams performance...not just kick coverage. Gostkowski and Zoltan kicked well...and Welker chipped in with a nifty 25 yard return, that set up a FG. 

    F 7. #66 Welch choked on some pass blocking assignments when he was next to Solder. It should have been easy for him on those plays. A disappointment.

    RESPONSE: True...there were some breakdowns in pass protection, and some negative running plays. These plays reduced the grade for the OL from an "A", to a "B". By and large, the OL gave Brady time to throw...and buried the Jets, front seven in the fourth quarter, to ice the game.
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    [QUOTE] Your report was a bit more upbeat on the defensive side of the ball, but I saw that mainly as a result of Jet ineptitude. I thought that Spikes and Guyton were both clueless when they were in pass coverage. Zone is pretty easy to play and a couple of times Spikes even left his area of responsibility and got burned. Bodden also looked bad a couple of times when the ball was thrown his way. I know that the Jet yardage was down from what other teams had put up against us but I think it was more about the Jets poor play than any improvement on the part of the Patriots.
     
    RESPONSE: Hello, my friend! The thing that disappointed me about the play of the "D" was their play in the redzone. The Jets scored TDs on all three of their three trips there.

     Brady was sacked because he held the ball too long, but he was doing that because guys downfield weren't getting open. The Jets are among the best in the league in man coverage and that's what they were in on all of that blitzing.
     
    RESPONSE: They're still a good defensive team...though not as good as last year. 

     Finally, has anything good come this year from rushing three players? It drives me nuts when the Patriots do that cause they invariably get burned when the QB holds onto the ball for a long time and the receivers get separation. Our secondary is pretty mediocre and when they're asked to maintain coverage for more than a few seconds, you're just asking too much of them. I have a feeling that the Dallas game will be a better test for this defense.

    RESPONSE: Fans have been complaining about the ol' Prevent Defense for years. You know the saying...the only thing that the Prevent prevents is winning...LOL!!
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         Here's one last look at the Jets @ Pats...it's a pretty thorough analysis on the game (from a Jets' standpoint): http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/10/a_look_back_at_the_jets_30-21.html
     
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    [QUOTE]     ....      Yes...this was a win. But I'm bothered by the fact that although the Patriots outplayed the Jets the way they did...that this was still a close game. ...     
    Posted by TexasPat3[/QUOTE]
    It wasn't that close.  BB knew that if he ran 71 offensive plays a game with an emphasis on the running game, the Jets defensive line would be wobbly noodles on the field in the fourth quarter.  The strategy worked.  Also, New England was up 10 points at the start of the 4th quarter and 13 points with 10 minutes to go in the game.  They were playing prevent. 

    In the end, the prevent didn't work that well, although the Jets offense did eat up 5 minutes scoring the first touchdown, but the wobbly noodle strategy worked just fine, combined with a hurry-up offense to really scramble the defense's brains.  The Jets knew that one more running play was coming and they still couldn't stop those 6 or 7 yard gains around the end.  If the Jets' defense would like a cheap medal from a gumball machine, they finally stopped the Pats with one minute to go and where the Pats could kick an easy field goal, effectively ending the game.
     
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    I pretty much agree with the whole card. Maybe a D on special teams for really shifting momentum in an instant for the Jets with 80+ kick return resulting in a TD for them.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Jets @ Patriots REPORT CARD : It wasn't that close.  BB knew that if he ran 71 offensive plays a game with an emphasis on the running game, the Jets defensive line would be wobbly noodles on the field in the fourth quarter.  The strategy worked.  Also, New England was up 10 points at the start of the 4th quarter and 13 points with 10 minutes to go in the game.  They were playing prevent.  In the end, the prevent didn't work that well, although the Jets offense did eat up 5 minutes scoring the first touchdown, but the wobbly noodle strategy worked just fine, combined with a hurry-up offense to really scramble the defense's brains.  The Jets knew that one more running play was coming and they still couldn't stop those 6 or 7 yard gains around the end.  If the Jets' defense would like a cheap medal from a gumball machine, they finally stopped the Pats with one minute to go and where the Pats could kick an easy field goal, effectively ending the game.
    Posted by Paul_K[/QUOTE]

         Paul...the Pats should have won this game by at least two TDs. That's why Tom Brady was angry after the game...he wanted to bury the Jets. With just over 7 minutes remaining to play, the Jets were only down 6. True...they couldn't stop the Pats' ground game thereafter. But, it still made for a ton of tense moments down the stretch.
     

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