Re: Julius Peppers?
posted at 12/1/2009 3:59 PM EST
In Response to Re: Julius Peppers?
[QUOTE]To ALL : Some Thoughts ~ First (I'll hold my breath for this fallout): IF it's gonna take the very highest DL money (not the highest NT $), Let Wilfork walk. EVERY year I've been following the Draft, Closer to the Pat's usual Draft slot-area, I've seen more and more quality DTs ( especially next year), AND Less and less top-notch OLBs that can rush the passer as well as drop back into coverage as well as many less 3-4 DEs that all have the trademark skills. ALSO , Pats proved wih Ted Washington that You can put a rather nominally skilled player that has all the trademark physical attributes, At 3-4 NT, and have a nasty D and still Win SBs... FURTHER , Let alone How someone like even Mike Wright can man the NT spot just fine AND be more of a pass-rushing threat than Wilfork has. Mind You ALL, This is all said in light of the ridiculously booku dollars it very well will probably take to keep Vince, THAT CAN and SHOULD Be Spent on QUALITY Free Agents and QUALITY Draft Picks : NOT Only WILL this team next year need a couple starting positions filled, like a very good Starting Guard (potentially 2 for Brady), BUT a good starting CB , BUT This Team ALREADY needs and thus, also WILL NEED SEVERAL MAJOR Positional Upgrades... Starting OLB , #2 WR/All-Purpose TE , 3-4 DE , AND a freakin' RB worthy of being in the League . AND some of You Guys want to spend half the cap on Vince Wilfork...good, good. I'll just expound on the pass-rushing OLB alone here...Look, Pat's have gotta get to the opposing team's QB. Regarding the rumors of getting Demarcus Ware this past off-season, There is NO reason that BB shouldn't have pulled that trade. He's still young, something like 27, has that perfect archetypal size for a 3-4 OLB @ 6'4 @ 265lbs. Someone else had a quote awhile back like, " IF You Draft (or acquire) to man Your Team with solely 2nd or 3rd or 7th rd talent, You're gonna play like a 2nd tier team ." Ware has shown he can get and HAS rather consistantly been able to get to the QB in his short time in the league... WITH the sheer amount of wasted cap money, and much, much moreso-wasted picks BB has dished out piecemeal for mediocre role players/contract year band-aids (Tampa's TE-1 pick, Philly's WR-1 pick, Oakland's OLB/DE-2 picks, and I believe 1 more), Jesus, Demarcus Ware just might be in a Patriot uni right now, OR Pats probably coulda moved up to acquire their 1st rd pass-rushing specialist OLB or 3-4 DE, OR Pats certainly would have an early 2nd rd top-notch #2 WR... NOT only has BB been far too frugal in Free Agency these days, BUT, He NEVER even combines (we had 12 picks last year) all or any of these picks in order in order to move up in the Draft to acquire the very top-tier highest quality guys. Orakpo or Cushing (he!! even Clay Matthews would have fit pretty nice) @ OLB , a big fast back like Chris Wells @ RB ... AND what about that #2 WR we critically needed and still need? To Further prove that Belichick is just a tad too rigid in not Drafting high, And/Or His excessive mantra about EVERY Draftee having an exactly fixed value, BB accurately judged how good WR Percy Harvin was...BUT So did Minnesotta, who picked him a single spot before the Pats (He currently leads all rookie WRs in TDs and yards and KR # and average-all vs some decent WRs in the class last year to boot)... ~ My overall point IS that, WE have MANY areas of need, and Pats can't afford to spend ALL the Money on the supposed A-#1 Complete and Total Best single player (i.e. Vince Wilfork), BUT BB in being far, far too rigid in the frugality of picks, money spent, and talent, Isn't even getting ANY of even the top- tier of talented guys, getting rather, next to ZERO true Impact-Players for the Pats and way way too many masses bargain-basement band-aids...
Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium[/QUOTE]
Good post. I agree. For the mega$ it would take to sign fork, we could probably upgrade 3-4 other positions. The dropoff from fork to whomever replaces him should be much less than leaving the 2-3 other "needs" unadressed.
need OLBs or DEs who can pass rush (like AT was supposed to do), a shut down corner and upgrades at RT and RG, just for starters.
Against guys like brees, manning and rivers, you have absolutely no chance at all
if they can stand back there, untouched, all day.