Kraft: All Class

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    What crime? I can tell you there is no crime on the casino grounds near me, it's well lit and there are tons of security folks patrolling at all times.

    The crime argument is bogus anyway. Do casinos turn otherwise innocent people into criminals by their mere presence? Does that make any sense? Is it the mafia that you're worried about? Please. 

    Increased traffic and use of resources? This is a problem really? This is a business that employs what, a couple thousand people maybe, in jobs that didn't exist before it got there, that contributes millions upon millions in income and property taxes and draws visitors from all over, and you're worried about traffic and a few cops? Real forward thinking. 

    You don't locate a casino in a residential neighborhood, you locate it in a place that can handle traffic and is not going to cause problems for locals, obviously. Next to a football stadium that already has that stuff figured out would seem to be a good spot.

    I get the NIMBY attitude, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.

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    I'm an officer in a town with one of the largest shopping malls around. Do you know how much crime that brings? Car thefts, car break ins, assaults, thefts from stores, drug deals made in surrounding neighborhoods, home break ins in surrounding neighborhoods. That place is so lit up at night we played street hockey in the parking lots at night. We have seven cars on the road at night, one night last week, six of them were there at the same time.

    With a Casino comes more parking. More hotels, in comes prostitution. Most of the time, them and their clients aren't the best society has to offer.

    And the best part of the Casino. The guy who goes from table to table,wearing his Poker sunglasses over his bloodshot eyes has too many drinks and on his way home slams into a family of four who coming back from Johnnys little league game. Theyre dead, because these Casinos have different rules than bars or other establishmnets with liquor licenses as far as over serving.

    Casinos dont turn otherwise innocent people into criminals. They dont have to. They attract criminals.

     
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    What crime? I can tell you there is no crime on the casino grounds near me, it's well lit and there are tons of security folks patrolling at all times.

    The crime argument is bogus anyway. Do casinos turn otherwise innocent people into criminals by their mere presence? Does that make any sense? Is it the mafia that you're worried about? Please. 

    Increased traffic and use of resources? This is a problem really? This is a business that employs what, a couple thousand people maybe, in jobs that didn't exist before it got there, that contributes millions upon millions in income and property taxes and draws visitors from all over, and you're worried about traffic and a few cops? Real forward thinking. 

    You don't locate a casino in a residential neighborhood, you locate it in a place that can handle traffic and is not going to cause problems for locals, obviously. Next to a football stadium that already has that stuff figured out would seem to be a good spot.

    I get the NIMBY attitude, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.

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    I'm an officer in a town with one of the largest shopping malls around. Do you know how much crime that brings? Car thefts, car break ins, assaults, thefts from stores, drug deals made in surrounding neighborhoods, home break ins in surrounding neighborhoods. That place is so lit up at night we played street hockey in the parking lots at night. We have seven cars on the road at night, one night last week, six of them were there at the same time.

    With a Casino comes more parking. More hotels, in comes prostitution. Most of the time, them and their clients aren't the best society has to offer.

    And the best part of the Casino. The guy who goes from table to table,wearing his Poker sunglasses over his bloodshot eyes has too many drinks and on his way home slams into a family of four who coming back from Johnnys little league game. Theyre dead, because these Casinos have different rules than bars or other establishmnets with liquor licenses as far as over serving.

    Casinos dont turn otherwise innocent people into criminals. They dont have to. They attract criminals.

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    Dude, you've been reading too many crime novels and watching too many hollywood crime shows.

    Malls bring crime due to lack of security. Casinos don't have that problem, they also don't bring prostitutes, nor drugs, nor drunk drivers. Quite the opposite since they are always having to fight that stereotype.

     
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    Is there a problem with casinos that I'm unaware of? They're massive revenue generators and employers. They should be everywhere, sports books too.

    There's one 10 miles from where I live. It's packed at all hours and employees hundreds, maybe more for all I know.  It pays something like $80 mil in taxes to the state every year. People fly and drive in from all over to stay there and spend their money.  They're always upgrading the place, it's well patrolled, crime free and has several excellent restaurants.

    Yeah, I can see why you wouldn't want that in your pristine town.

    Kraft is a hard-nosed businessman who is bound to make enemies. That's life, get over it. The good he's done is Mt. Everest compared to any negative, which is a molehill. 

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    Considering the massive tax revenue involved, why don't most states have them?

    I'm not going to do your research for you. 

     
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    I have two of the largest casinos in the country within 15 minutes driving time from my driveway.  Both are on Native American reservations, both generate significant revenue for the area and the state, and are major employers.  Are there issues? Sure, but I'd venture to say no more than any large attraction.  Do any of those issues effect me or my home?  Actually I've not been able to detect any after the area became accustomed to their presence.  My town had some issues with the Mashantuckets for some time but once rational leadership took the helm in both the town and the tribe the issues were resolved. 

    I absolutely agree with Muzz, re: Kraft and his business acumen.  I have nothing but positives to say about him and about what he's done for the Pats.

     
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    Considering the massive tax revenue involved, why don't most states have them?

    I'm not going to do your research for you. 

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    Not sure what you're referring to as far as research? Thirty states allow casino gambling. They haven't all been built yet, but they will. Twenty years ago, it was 6 states. Twenty years from now, it will be 49 states. Utah will be the lone holdout. There's too much money involved and in case you haven't noticed, state and municipal governments are broke.

    Mass will have three somewhere, they've already been approved. Foxboro seems like a logical place, but if not there they'll be somewhere. Otherwise all that Mass money will continue to be spent in other states, which makes no sense and won't go on for long.

    The only argument against casinos is the crime thing, which is complete BS. As ATJ said, any time there's an attraction where people spend money, e.g., a shopping mall, there will be petty crime. The cost of that crime is outweighed a thousand fold by the revenue from a casino, or a shopping mall.  

    There's no legitimate argument against casinos, just made up stuff or religious beliefs. If you don't want one in your town, vote against it. Let all that money go somewhere else.

     

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