My "Big 32" Draft Board Stack

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    My "Big 32" Draft Board Stack

    For those that don't frequent the Draft Thread, below is my current draft Patriot's draft board stack based on their current picks (Rd 1, Rd 2, Rd3, Rd 7, Rd 7), assuming they'll be drafting at the back end of each applicable round.  The board is also fluid and likely to change as more info/tape becomes available and kids decide on whether or not to declare:

    ***UPDATED 2/25***

     

    Rd 1

    DT- Jesse Williams- Alabama

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine- FSU

    OG- Jonathan Cooper- UNC

    CB- Johnthan Banks- Miss State

    S- Matt Elam- Florida

    DT- John Hankins- OSU

    DT- Sylvester Williams- UNC

     

    Rd 1-2

    WR- DeAndre Hopkins- Clemson

    CB- Logan Ryan- Rutgers

    S- Jon Cyprien- FIU

    CB- Xavier Rhodes- FSU

    CB- Desmond Trufant- Washington

    WR- Tavon Austin- WVU

     

    Rd 2

    WR- Quinton Patton- LTU

    CB- DJ Hayden- Houston

    OLB/DE- Corey Lemonier- Auburn

    CB- Jordan Poyer- Oregon State

    DT- John Jenkins- Georgia

     

    Rd 2-3

    S- DJ Swearinger- South Carolina

    WR- Stedman Bailey- WVU

    CB- Jamar Taylor- Boise State

    OL- Barrett Jones- Alabama

    LB- Kiko Alonso- Oregon

    OL- Brian Winters- Kent State

    OL- David Quessenberry- San Jose State

    QB- EJ Manuel- FSU

     

    Rd 3

    WR- Ryan Swope- Tex A&M

    WR/PR- Ace Sanders- South Carolina

    WR- Josh Boyce- TCU

    WR- Markus Wheaton- Oregon State

    DE/OLB- Michael Buchanan- Illinois

    CB- Darius Slay- Miss State

    S- Zeke Motta- ND

    S- Josh Evans- Florida

    C/OG- Brian Schwenke- Cal

    DE/OLB- Devin Taylor- South Carolina

     

    Rd 4-7

    DE/OLB- Lavar Edwards- LSU

    OT- Reid Fragel- OSU

    S- Shawn Williams- Georgia

    OG- Eric Herman- Ohio

    LB- Sio Moore- UConn

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore- ND

    DL- Quinton Dial- Alabama

    S- Cooper Taylor- Richmond

    DL- Josh Boyd- Miss State

    DL- Abry Jones- Georgia

    DE/OLB- Cornelius Washington- Georgia

    RB- Spencer Ware- LSU

    WR- TJ Moe- Missouri

    LB/FB- Zach Boren- OSU

     
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    Know most of these guys (in first two ) is this Dion Jordan kid a potential stud. Seems like all those Oregon kids are speed merchants. Great post. Does this assume the Pats comp for Talib? Or was that a 4th?

     
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    I've seen enough of Nix to say I'd be delighted to have him.   He's the guy that makes their D work IMO.  Vince isn't getting any younger.

     
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    MB, If you had to pick between Warmack and Jones, who would it be?

     
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    I haven't seen enough college games this year, but Swope really impressed me in the Alabama win. He came up with a catch in all the big spots. He'd fit in pretty well with a mid round pick.

     
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    Know most of these guys (in first two ) is this Dion Jordan kid a potential stud. Seems like all those Oregon kids are speed merchants. Great post. Does this assume the Pats comp for Talib? Or was that a 4th?

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    I'm pretty bias when it comes towards USC and UNC players as I think they're generally overrated, so I know what you're saying.  This kid has as much upside as any player in this draft, IMO... kid's only been on the defensive side of the ball since 2010 and at 6-6 he's still developing physically, with plenty of room to add weight (would prob need to be above 250-255).  Kid has elite athleticism and movement ability, gives an awesome effort, both up the field and in pursuit... he even lines up at CB... just an impressive player.  Now, he'll need to develop more bulk and upperbody strenght, do a better job of protecting his legs at times, but the tools are all their.  Not somebody that you'd have to worry about underperforming, IMO.

     
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    I've seen enough of Nix to say I'd be delighted to have him.   He's the guy that makes their D work IMO.  Vince isn't getting any younger.

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    They're stacked with current and future high round talent along the front 7 and while I think Te'o makes them go, Nix is ideal for their 34 front and allows them to do a lot of things.  Their defensive prospect with the highest upside would have to be 6-6 305 DE Stephon Tuitt... think Richard Seymour in his prime.  The most underrated would be 6-2 250 JR Prince Shembo... kid has a nasty demeanor on the field and really likes to get after the QB, gives a great effort and has an NFL body, especially in the lower half.  He's draft eligible, but I think he'll come back to improve his stock even further... I think he's a potential day 2 kid right now.

     
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    MB, If you had to pick between Warmack and Jones, who would it be?

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    Jones gives you ability at C/OG and maybe emergency OT, but Warmack is the better overall prospect.  At this point, I'd go Warmack... though I think Jones has a better chance at being available towards the end of Rd 1.

     
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    I haven't seen enough college games this year, but Swope really impressed me in the Alabama win. He came up with a catch in all the big spots. He'd fit in pretty well with a mid round pick.

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    Agreed.

     
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    For those that don't frequent the Draft Thread, below is my current draft Patriot's draft board stack based on their current picks (Rd 1, Rd 2, Rd3, Rd 7, Rd 7), assuming they'll be drafting at the back end of each applicable round.  The board is also fluid and likely to change as more info/tape becomes available and kids decide on whether or not to declare:

     

    Rd 1

    DE/OLB- Dion Jordan- (6-6 250) Oregon

    DT- Jesse Williams- (6-3 320) Alabama

    OG- Chance Warmack- (6-2 322) Alabama

    OL- Barrett Jones- (6-4 305) Alabama

     

    Rd 1-2

    *S- Matt Elam- (5-10 210) Florida

    *DT- Louis Nix- (6-3 325) Notre Dame *ADDED 11/19*

    CB- Jordan Poyer- (5-11 190) Oregon State

    OLB/DE- Chase Thomas- (6-4 250) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine- (6-4 265) Florida State

    *TE- Tyler Eifert- (6-6 250) Notre Dame

     

    Rd 2

    S- Robert Lester- (6-2 215) Alabama

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah- (6-5 270) BYU

    *RB- Eddie Lacy- (5-10 235) Alabama

    S- Kenny Vaccaro- (6-1 220) Texas

     

    Rd 2-3

    CB- Micah Hyde- (6-1 190) Iowa

    *CB- Bennett Jackson- (6-0 185) Notre Dame

    *LB- Kevin Minter- (6-1 245) LSU

    *CB- Logan Ryan- (6-0 190) Rutgers

     

    Rd 3

    CB- Terry Hawthorne- (6-0 190) Illinois

    LB- Shayne Skov- (6-3 242) Stanford

    WR- Ryan Swope- (6-0 205) Tex A&M

    S- Zeke Motta- (6-2 220) Notre Dame

    RB- Stepfan Taylor- (5-11 215) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Margus Hunt- (6-7 280) SMU

    S- Shawn Williams- (6-1 220) Georgia

    DT- Abry Jones- (6-3 308) Georgia

     

    Rd 7

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore- (6-4 305) Notre Dame

    WR TJ Moe- (5-11 200) Missouri

    DL- Quinton Dial- (6-6 305) Alabama

    WR Chad Bumphis- (5-10 200) Miss State

    OG Blaize Foltz- (6-4 310) TCU

    S- John Boyett- (5-10 205) Oregon

     

    * Denotes Underclassmen

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    This is great and all but we both know what's REALLY important right now:

    THE IRISH ARE # 1

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    Awesome to see them back on top!!!  Now they have to take care of business against SC.

     
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    MB do you see any possible situations in which the Pats trade up to get a player. I love Dion Jordan too, I think he is going to be a stud in the NFL. But what if a player like Bjourn Werner or Barkevious Mingo drop to and ar estill around after 20 picks. I realize we don't know where the Pats will pick but lets just say its #32. Would you trade up for any certain player? Say maybe even giving up your first and second round picks?

     
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    MB do you see any possible situations in which the Pats trade up to get a player. I love Dion Jordan too, I think he is going to be a stud in the NFL. But what if a player like Bjourn Werner or Barkevious Mingo drop to and ar estill around after 20 picks. I realize we don't know where the Pats will pick but lets just say its #32. Would you trade up for any certain player? Say maybe even giving up your first and second round picks?

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    My gut tells me that they're going to trade back this year where possible to try and build up another stash of picks and flexibility moving forward.  Of the players that I think BB would covet in the low 20's, a kid like Bama DT Jesse Williams is a player that I think will appeal to him the most... which may take some sort of swap of 1st and 2nd rounders and maybe adding in a future mid rounder, assuming they're at 32.  I don't see Werner or Mingo as being available in that range.

    Bottom line, he loves to build up his offensive and defensive fronts and clearly puts a lot of value in both areas and a battle tested DT/NT with a Saban pedigree that's proven in the SEC is just the kind of player he likes. 

    As for Jordan, his length, versatility, athleticism and motor are sure to appeal to BB/NC, so he, IMO, could be another player that they'd maneuver to get.

     

     
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    Agree 100% MB, that a trade back is possible. It depends on who's left on the big board, but I could see that happening. IMO there should be good value in mid-2nd round.

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:
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    For those that don't frequent the Draft Thread, below is my current draft Patriot's draft board stack based on their current picks (Rd 1, Rd 2, Rd3, Rd 7, Rd 7), assuming they'll be drafting at the back end of each applicable round.  The board is also fluid and likely to change as more info/tape becomes available and kids decide on whether or not to declare:

     

    Rd 1

    DE/OLB- Dion Jordan- (6-6 250) Oregon

    DT- Jesse Williams- (6-3 320) Alabama

    OG- Chance Warmack- (6-2 322) Alabama

    OL- Barrett Jones- (6-4 305) Alabama

     

    Rd 1-2

    *S- Matt Elam- (5-10 210) Florida

    *DT- Louis Nix- (6-3 325) Notre Dame *ADDED 11/19*

    CB- Jordan Poyer- (5-11 190) Oregon State

    OLB/DE- Chase Thomas- (6-4 250) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine- (6-4 265) Florida State

    *TE- Tyler Eifert- (6-6 250) Notre Dame

     

    Rd 2

    S- Robert Lester- (6-2 215) Alabama

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah- (6-5 270) BYU

    *RB- Eddie Lacy- (5-10 235) Alabama

    S- Kenny Vaccaro- (6-1 220) Texas

     

    Rd 2-3

    CB- Micah Hyde- (6-1 190) Iowa

    *CB- Bennett Jackson- (6-0 185) Notre Dame

    *LB- Kevin Minter- (6-1 245) LSU

    *CB- Logan Ryan- (6-0 190) Rutgers

     

    Rd 3

    CB- Terry Hawthorne- (6-0 190) Illinois

    LB- Shayne Skov- (6-3 242) Stanford

    WR- Ryan Swope- (6-0 205) Tex A&M

    S- Zeke Motta- (6-2 220) Notre Dame

    RB- Stepfan Taylor- (5-11 215) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Margus Hunt- (6-7 280) SMU

    S- Shawn Williams- (6-1 220) Georgia

    DT- Abry Jones- (6-3 308) Georgia

     

    Rd 7

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore- (6-4 305) Notre Dame

    WR TJ Moe- (5-11 200) Missouri

    DL- Quinton Dial- (6-6 305) Alabama

    WR Chad Bumphis- (5-10 200) Miss State

    OG Blaize Foltz- (6-4 310) TCU

    S- John Boyett- (5-10 205) Oregon

     

    * Denotes Underclassmen

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    first oh my g-d! if we got tyler eifert, the rest of the league should just fold up shop :)

    id take jordan (prefer werner) and williams (prefer john jennkins) in rd 1 (using 2014 picks) and maybe frederick c/g in rd 3 and be ecstatic

    in rd 7 a shot at a safety, cb or outside wr would be a good idea (the wr being maybe the most likely to be a "hit" of these low % 7th rd picks) 

     
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    MB, If you had to pick between Warmack and Jones, who would it be?

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    Jones gives you ability at C/OG and maybe emergency OT, but Warmack is the better overall prospect.  At this point, I'd go Warmack... though I think Jones has a better chance at being available towards the end of Rd 1.

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    agreed on the jones availability. was going to psoe teh saem question on draft thread. i have my mind already on it. warmack is a more dominant player, but barrett is teh c/g position we need moreso. that being said, hard to lsoe getting either.

    however i see our need to get a dominat dt and de as needing to be done in rd 1, so i settle for the best c/g avail in rd 3.

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:
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    For those that don't frequent the Draft Thread, below is my current draft Patriot's draft board stack based on their current picks (Rd 1, Rd 2, Rd3, Rd 7, Rd 7), assuming they'll be drafting at the back end of each applicable round.  The board is also fluid and likely to change as more info/tape becomes available and kids decide on whether or not to declare:

     

    Rd 1

    DE/OLB- Dion Jordan- (6-6 250) Oregon

    DT- Jesse Williams- (6-3 320) Alabama

    OG- Chance Warmack- (6-2 322) Alabama

    OL- Barrett Jones- (6-4 305) Alabama

     

    Rd 1-2

    *S- Matt Elam- (5-10 210) Florida

    *DT- Louis Nix- (6-3 325) Notre Dame *ADDED 11/19*

    CB- Jordan Poyer- (5-11 190) Oregon State

    OLB/DE- Chase Thomas- (6-4 250) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine- (6-4 265) Florida State

    *TE- Tyler Eifert- (6-6 250) Notre Dame

     

    Rd 2

    S- Robert Lester- (6-2 215) Alabama

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah- (6-5 270) BYU

    *RB- Eddie Lacy- (5-10 235) Alabama

    S- Kenny Vaccaro- (6-1 220) Texas

     

    Rd 2-3

    CB- Micah Hyde- (6-1 190) Iowa

    *CB- Bennett Jackson- (6-0 185) Notre Dame

    *LB- Kevin Minter- (6-1 245) LSU

    *CB- Logan Ryan- (6-0 190) Rutgers

     

    Rd 3

    CB- Terry Hawthorne- (6-0 190) Illinois

    LB- Shayne Skov- (6-3 242) Stanford

    WR- Ryan Swope- (6-0 205) Tex A&M

    S- Zeke Motta- (6-2 220) Notre Dame

    RB- Stepfan Taylor- (5-11 215) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Margus Hunt- (6-7 280) SMU

    S- Shawn Williams- (6-1 220) Georgia

    DT- Abry Jones- (6-3 308) Georgia

     

    Rd 7

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore- (6-4 305) Notre Dame

    WR TJ Moe- (5-11 200) Missouri

    DL- Quinton Dial- (6-6 305) Alabama

    WR Chad Bumphis- (5-10 200) Miss State

    OG Blaize Foltz- (6-4 310) TCU

    S- John Boyett- (5-10 205) Oregon

     

    * Denotes Underclassmen

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    MB ,thanks for this thread. I think I am in the majority of Pats fan who dont really follow your main thread (albeit the best on the board!) regularly untill February when Pats position is known and who they could select.

    So,

    Nix at Rd 1 -2 is a viable late #1pick? And is that a real critical need?  It appears the good OL guys will be gone and the secondary guys seem to behind him. Will he be as good as Raji?

     

    Also I see  you have Eifert at the same level. I know BBs penchant for TEs, and I see Minnesota with an addiction to Notre Dame TEs I think this  will force other teams to jump early!

     

    As you can see my college viewing is pretty blue/gold focussed!

     

    thanks again for this thread.

     

     
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    For those that don't frequent the Draft Thread, below is my current draft Patriot's draft board stack based on their current picks (Rd 1, Rd 2, Rd3, Rd 7, Rd 7), assuming they'll be drafting at the back end of each applicable round.  The board is also fluid and likely to change as more info/tape becomes available and kids decide on whether or not to declare:

     

    Rd 1

    DE/OLB- Dion Jordan- (6-6 250) Oregon

    DT- Jesse Williams- (6-3 320) Alabama

    OG- Chance Warmack- (6-2 322) Alabama

    OL- Barrett Jones- (6-4 305) Alabama

     

    Rd 1-2

    *S- Matt Elam- (5-10 210) Florida

    *DT- Louis Nix- (6-3 325) Notre Dame *ADDED 11/19*

    CB- Jordan Poyer- (5-11 190) Oregon State

    OLB/DE- Chase Thomas- (6-4 250) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine- (6-4 265) Florida State

    *TE- Tyler Eifert- (6-6 250) Notre Dame

     

    Rd 2

    S- Robert Lester- (6-2 215) Alabama

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah- (6-5 270) BYU

    *RB- Eddie Lacy- (5-10 235) Alabama

    S- Kenny Vaccaro- (6-1 220) Texas

     

    Rd 2-3

    CB- Micah Hyde- (6-1 190) Iowa

    *CB- Bennett Jackson- (6-0 185) Notre Dame

    *LB- Kevin Minter- (6-1 245) LSU

    *CB- Logan Ryan- (6-0 190) Rutgers

     

    Rd 3

    CB- Terry Hawthorne- (6-0 190) Illinois

    LB- Shayne Skov- (6-3 242) Stanford

    WR- Ryan Swope- (6-0 205) Tex A&M

    S- Zeke Motta- (6-2 220) Notre Dame

    RB- Stepfan Taylor- (5-11 215) Stanford

    DE/OLB- Margus Hunt- (6-7 280) SMU

    S- Shawn Williams- (6-1 220) Georgia

    DT- Abry Jones- (6-3 308) Georgia

     

    Rd 7

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore- (6-4 305) Notre Dame

    WR TJ Moe- (5-11 200) Missouri

    DL- Quinton Dial- (6-6 305) Alabama

    WR Chad Bumphis- (5-10 200) Miss State

    OG Blaize Foltz- (6-4 310) TCU

    S- John Boyett- (5-10 205) Oregon

     

    * Denotes Underclassmen

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    MB ,thanks for this thread. I think I am in the majority of Pats fan who dont really follow your main thread (albeit the best on the board!) regularly untill February when Pats position is known and who they could select.

    So,

    Nix at Rd 1 -2 is a viable late #1pick? And is that a real critical need?  It appears the good OL guys will be gone and the secondary guys seem to behind him. Will he be as good as Raji?

     

    Also I see  you have Eifert at the same level. I know BBs penchant for TEs, and I see Minnesota with an addiction to Notre Dame TEs I think this  will force other teams to jump early!

     

    As you can see my college viewing is pretty blue/gold focussed!

     

    thanks again for this thread.

     

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    No prob, mg... welcome. 

    Nix Would be a solid pick anywhere in the top 40, with def Rd 1 upside... he's a big, power, athletic kid that moves well laterally, will battle you on every down,  can eat a double and projects as a prototype 34 NT (VW is 31, so while he has some years left, getting his eventual successor in place should appeal to BB), a position that's at a premium in the NFL.  He's a draft eligible RS Soph, so he might return to ND... which would be awesome because he and Stephon Tuitt would provide the best 1-2 DL tandem in the country, IMO. 

    Eifert definitely has Rd 1 talent... kid is big at 6-6 250+, runs well, consistently gets open, catches everything, has excellent ball skills and will high point the football (used a lot around the goal line and in isolation plays) and has really developed as a blocker this year... both inlined and on the perimeter.  He's a better prospect than Kyle Rudolph, IMO... and I'd salivate at the thought of running (2) TE sets with Gronk and Eifert in the game.  Now, I don't think TE is a need, especially under the assumption that Jake Ballard should be good to go next year, but BB def values the TE position, so he has to be considered, IMO.

    I think this class represents some good depth both at S and CB so they should be able to improve the secondary on day 2 if they choose to do so. 

     
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    MB, If you had to pick between Warmack and Jones, who would it be?

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    In my opinion, Warmack won't be available late first - so Jones would be a solid selection as he can play anywhere on the line.

     
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    Watched Alabama and Texas AM, and that kid Swope really impressed me.  He looks like a money player, (clutch). Really liked his game, looks as tough as nails too. Got open in critical times and MADE the catches.

    Congrats on Notre Dame!

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    Love his hands (especially in traffic) and his willingness to sacrifice his body to make a catch... shades of WW in regards to that.

    Thanks, though they still need to take care of biz vs. SC!

     

     

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