NFL wants to change the kickoff

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    NFL wants to change the kickoff

    They want to kickoff from the 35 and touchbacks come out to the 25...their reasoning-safety?????  Come the **** on safety? what is this football or foosball.
     
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    [QUOTE]They want to kickoff from the 35 and touchbacks come out to the 25...their reasoning-safety?????  Come the **** on safety? what is this football or foosball.
    Posted by harleyroadking11[/QUOTE]
    so why even kick-off at all? That way no-one gets hurt! When  do the velcro belts and nylon flags get intrduced?
     
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    Just do away with half of the field and spot the ball at the 50 and go from there.

    I don't like this, the kickoff can be an exciting part of the game. All the watering down of this game is making it almost unwatchable.
     
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    The great irony in all of this is that, by trying to outlaw contact and removing anything remotely excting, the "competition" committee is turning the game into something fans don't want to see so that, ultimately, the NFL can bring us more games.

    Pretty funny, huh?

     
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    Yup.....Let's gut the game of all it's excitement. Now who's up for more games?
    What's next no punting (the punter could get hurt), lowering of shoulder (that hurts) tackling (so over rated).
     
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    It could go from "Devin Hester you are ridiculous" to "|Devin Hester you are irrelevent". I hope this isn't one of those let's speed up the game silly suggestions.
     
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    This has nothing (or little) to do with "safety."

    It is another "scoring first" rule. When they moved the kickoff back to the 30, it increased scoring. Now they want to move it up to decrease actual kick returns. Naturally, they still want higher scoring games ... so touchbacks (which will be ore frequent) should be moved up, to keep scoring moving. 
     
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    The current rule starts players at the 30, and it seems to me that the kick team and the returner meet somewhere between the 15-20 yard line (I'm assuming it's a good kicker who has decent hang time). That gives players 50 yards to get up to speed. This change would make that roughly 45 yards. Yes the players can be blocked, but 5 yards is not going to slow any of the kick coverage team down to make hits safer.

    Either the team would always kick out of the endzone, or the kicker would try for more hangtime (allowing the coverage team to get farther down the field before a return begins). In my opinion, if you still want returns to be a part of the game, you need to make the touchback less appealing. Place the ball at the 30 if it is kicked out of the endzone. If a player catches it in the endzone, they can kneel it to get to the 25, or advance it out of the endzone. It would keep teams from removing the kick return from the game. I would also say that if it bounces in the end zone, a player can't just let it roll out and get to the 30.

    If this rule goes through, teams won't invest in return specialists.
     
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    This is quickly becoming the Bill Polian politically correct league.

    I vote that Polian finally step down and that term limits be imposed on CC members.

    2 year tenure, rotated concurrently with every GM and coach in the role for 2 year periods, to be relieved from duty after those 2 offseasons.


     
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    If  this rule passes it will put a kink in Dan Connollys career.

     
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    In Response to Re: NFL wants to change the kickoff:
    [QUOTE]This has nothing (or little) to do with "safety." It is another "scoring first" rule. When they moved the kickoff back to the 30, it increased scoring. Now they want to move it up to decrease actual kick returns. Naturally, they still want higher scoring games ... so touchbacks (which will be ore frequent) should be moved up, to keep scoring moving. 
    Posted by zbellino[/QUOTE]

    It has everything to with safety,

    The Competition Committee is also proposing the elimination of all forms of the wedge block, including the two-man wedge, and requiring players on the kickoff team to line up between the 30-yard line and the 35-yard line. All of these changes, the Competition Committee believes, will cut down on injuries on kickoffs.
     
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    It's a knee jerk reaction.  Injuries happen.

    This is coming from some whiny coaches and GMS on the competition committee who are needing an excuse as to why they didn't win the SB last year.

    Draft better and allocate your resources better.

    GB had 16 players on IR.  NE had 15 players on IR. Both made the playoffs, GB won the SB.

    Christ, NE's kicker got hurt for crying out loud. Should we look for a rule change for that part of the kick off?

    I have no issue with violent hits to the head. I just don't want one dupsh*t like Murton Hanks thinking it's his duty to be the final decision on what the suspension is.

    They should have a panel of former players who do it as volunteers and then vote if it's suspension worthy or just worth a small fine with incidental, minor contact like we saw so many times last year.




     
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    [QUOTE]They want to kickoff from the 35 and touchbacks come out to the 25...their reasoning-safety?????  Come the **** on safety? what is this football or foosball.
    Posted by harleyroadking11[/QUOTE]
    'The Waterboy's' mom Kathy Bates could tell you if it's foosball.
     
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    Imagine the future.  A regular season filled with games that look like the Pro Bowl.  Just kill me now.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to NFL wants to change the kickoff : so why even kick-off at all? That way no-one gets hurt! When  do the velcro belts and nylon flags get intrduced?
    Posted by NESportnut[/QUOTE]

    +1

    to add a new twist, the players assume the risks associated with playing by choosing to play.  Per capita, I'd bet that loggers and miners get maimed and killed at the same rate with much less fanfare
     
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    The kickoff return has always been an integral part of the game. In fact, in the CFL there are no fair catches and if you catch the ball in your end zone and don't run it out, the kicking team scores a single point. (You get the touchback, but you give up a point.)  The NFL moved the kick back to the 30 yard line because there were too many touchbacks. These examples show that the rules have always encouraged teams to return the ball and discouraged touchbacks. Now it looks like the NFL is thinking of reversing this approach and encouraging touchbacks while discouraging returns. 

    I'm all for player safety, but let's be careful about changing the game too much. If you're going to pass rules to make touchbacks the norm, you may as well just get rid of kickoffs altogether and give teams the ball at the 20. But if you do that, you've got a vastly less exciting game. I could accept some of the rules to eliminate more dangerous blocks--but I think rules that make kick off returns rarer will diminish the game. 

     
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    [QUOTE]If you want to reduce the injuries don't get hit.....otherwise fall back on your physical training and suck it up. They get paid millions of dollars to go out there and get the offense good field position and give them a boost, not catch a ball and take a knee. Bringing this closer to home I'd like to see the Pats change this up. Tate blew last year IMO. The Pats were ranked 24th and despite that still had the most points/game and overall most points. What could they do if they made the top ten in that stat?
    Posted by Sam-Adams[/QUOTE]


    Tate started out looking pretty good, but as the season went on he seemed to be less decisive.  Am I wrong or does this seem to happen with all Pats' kick returners (I'm thinking Hobbs)?  They look good the first few returns but then they seem to lose it.  Is that because everyone learns their tendencies or is it something with the way they're coached?

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to NFL wants to change the kickoff : so why even kick-off at all? That way no-one gets hurt! When  do the velcro belts and nylon flags get intrduced?
    Posted by NESportnut[/QUOTE]

         Amen, brother! Just more evidence that Roger "Jets" Goodell is, through his extreme micro-managing, in the process of ruining the game.

         Here's an article concerning a proposed crack-down on illegal hits, and the proposed new kickoff rules. Look at all the types of hits listed that Goodell wants to rule illegal! This, and the intent to start to suspend players, will allow referees even more power to decide the outcome of games: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/16/suspensions.ap/index.html 
     
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    Re: NFL wants to change the kickoff

    How about this:

    Instead of even kicking off... give one team the ball at the goal line while the defending team can line up at the "receiving" team's 40.  For all intents and purposes, when there is a kickoff, by the time the ball is caught, generally at the goal line, defenders are at about the 20 yard line and it is simply a matter of blocking and evading at this point.
     
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    If the owners really want to decrease injuries, encase all players in giant inflatable sumo bubble suits.  Players won't be able to run very fast but they'll just bump harmlessly into each other. 

    Now, seriously, if they want teams to run the kickoff out almost every time, simply place the ball on the 10 yard line for a kickoff touchback.  No more stupid "kick and then do nothing" plays, except when Ghost booms it out the back of the endzone.

     
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    [QUOTE]If the owners really want to decrease injuries, encase all players in giant inflatable sumo bubble suits.  Players won't be able to run very fast but they'll just bump harmlessly into each other.  Now, seriously, if they want teams to run the kickoff out almost every time, simply place the ball on the 10 yard line for a kickoff touchback.  No more stupid "kick and then do nothing" plays, except when Ghost booms it out the back of the endzone.
    Posted by Paul_K[/QUOTE]

    I like the idea of bubble wrap myself. That way they can penalize the players for "popping off" at the refs on every play. I'm sure someone is out there right now trying to come up with a safer form of bubble wrap. Pop, pop !!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NFL wants to change the kickoff : I like the idea of bubble wrap myself. That way they can penalize the players for "popping off" at the refs on every play. I'm sure someone is out there right now trying to come up with a safer form of bubble wrap. Pop, pop !!
    Posted by Hetchinspete[/QUOTE]
    There's nothing better than a player with a lot of explosion.
     
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    It would be cost prohibitive. Can you imagine the amount of bubble wrap it would take to cover Vince Wilfork?. Packaging companies shutter at the thought....

     
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    Re: NFL wants to change the kickoff

    Hey I have an idea! Why don't they just set a speed limit- no running over 4mph and if you're caught speeding it's a 15 yard penalty and a $15000 fine. Then the NFL broadcasts the game with fast forward so it looks like its happening at a high speed. No? If not then the bubble wrap idea sounds good!
     

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