Re: NFLPA Vs NFL.. where do you stand?
posted at 2/27/2011 8:20 PM EST
In Response to Re: NFLPA Vs NFL.. where do you stand?
[QUOTE]I'm not quite so enamored of the owners as you are. Yeah, owners own their business, but especially in a business like the NFL they have a business only because there are talented individuals out there who people want to watch play. If you have a rare talent, you can demand more money for it. That's just market economics. A few misconceptions in your post that should be corrected: The current CBA would have remained in effect through 2012 if the owners hadn't voted to end it early. The players aren't asking for more. The owners voted to end the CBA so they could ask the players to take less. The negotiation isn't really about how much revenue the players can demand from the owners--it's about how high the salary cap should be. The owners want to reduce the salary cap. The players have countered with a demand that keeps the salary cap roughly at what it is. The players aren't demanding money--they're negotiating on where their salaries can be capped. Most of us can't dictate to our employers. But most of us are more replaceable than NFL players. If you have a rare talent that is essential to the success of your business, then you have more negotiating power. If you've got that power, there's nothing wrong with exercising it. In the end, I don't favor owners or players--I think both have a right to negotiate and I don't see anything wrong in either side asking for all they can from the other. That's how negotiations work.
Posted by prolate0spheroid[/QUOTE]
"But most of us are more replaceable than NFL players."
Are you kidding me?????? Did the NFL roll over and die when Lombardi's great Packers teams stopped playing? Did it shrivel up after players on the Steelers, Cowboys, Dolphins, and Vikings teams of the 70's retired? I seem to recall game still being played after the 49'ers of the 80's retired.
Seems to me I recall new people replacing guys like Jim Brown, Johnny Unitas, and Sam Huff. Same for guys named Larry Csonka, Franco Harris, and Fran Tarkenton. I don't remember any teams folding after Joe Montana, Barry Sanders, or John Elway retiring either! Reggie White retired,a dn I know the Packers strapped it up the next season.
Guess what? Players leave and NEW players take their place! Gee, it happens in all sports! If you even want to try to equate our non-professional sports lives to a pro, well, you haven't got much self esteem for yourself.
If these players feel they can geta better deal someplace else with their, (hrumph!) COLLEGE EDUCATIONS, then I say to them: GO FOR IT! Let them show the world that They can actually put C-A-T together to make a word AND know what it means, at $2.85Million/year!
Seems to me the owners are the ones taking the financial risk, with most of them trying to put a winning product on the field, less a championship caliber one. The players? The cost to attend a game? Well, stare down a $163Million roster payroll, which doesn't come close to include their operational costs (scouting, general maintainence, front office, PR, etc), not their financial committtments (ie: bank and investor note payable) just to "own" that logo we see on helmets.
Remember the USFL? WFL? Players thought they could strike it rich there too.