OL Performance

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    OL Performance

    This is the closest thing I could find that looks at hits, hurries, sacks, pressures.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/11/01/palazzolos-pitch-unblocked-pressure/

    Would be nice to be able to compare to last season.

     
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    2012 - ranked #5

    http://wp.advancednflstats.com/teamOL.php?year=2012&season=reg

    2013 - ranked #26

     
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    a little surprised noone wants to discuss the OL, considering the Panthers are playing the Patriots tomorrow, and boast one of the better front 7.

     
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    a little surprised noone wants to discuss the OL, considering the Panthers are playing the Patriots tomorrow, and boast one of the better front 7.

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    Wendell needs to play better palin and simple. He can not let star (the rookie) can't spell his last name push him straight back on pass plays. he needs to give Brady a pocket. It is the middle of the O-line that needs to step uo their play.

     
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    Is the problem Wendell or Connolly or both 

     
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    Is the problem Wendell or Connolly or both 

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    A bit of both, and Mankins, too.

    Solder has been stellar. Vollmer was having a strong year, but Cannon has arguably played better than him since stepping in (although the sample size is small).

    Wendell, Mankins primarily, and Connolly (to a degree) have been the main culprits. 

     
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    a little surprised noone wants to discuss the OL, considering the Panthers are playing the Patriots tomorrow, and boast one of the better front 7.

     



     

    Because it's easier for the agenda driven tool bags to blame Brady

     
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    Good stuff anonymous. this years offensive woes starts with the OL and also works itself to the WR's. To lay any of the woes at Brady's doorstep has always been misguided IMO. 

     
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    I don't know what to expect from the OL tomorrow night. They've been poor the past few years when facing an above average D line and front seven.

    Hopefully Josh McDaniels can help this unit with his game plan.

     
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    Because it's easier for the agenda driven tool bags to blame Brady

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    LOL.  This is true, but I'm using ignore - so, I don't even see many of those comments anymore.

     
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    Good stuff anonymous. this years offensive woes starts with the OL and also works itself to the WR's. To lay any of the woes at Brady's doorstep has always been misguided IMO. 

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    What happens in the trenches will have an obvious impact on tomorrows game.

    And, altho Brady shares a part of the blame,  those few alleged patriot fans who solely blame Brady for the Patriots' offensive woes are misquided. It's obviously a team sport where QB performance is affected by other players on that side of the ball.

     
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    I don't know what to expect from the OL tomorrow night. They've been poor the past few years when facing an above average D line and front seven.

    Hopefully Josh McDaniels can help this unit with his game plan.

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    We will see if McD has the right game plan, decent play calling, decent protection for Brady when needed. Will need to run well early in game, help set up things like screens if Panthers are overly aggressive, and for play action.  Hope Vereen plays and gets some touches to give us some flexibility on 3rd downs.

    Worst case scenario is a low scoring game where the Patriots let the Panthers hang around. Best case scenario is to offensively hit on all cylinders and never look behind.

     
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    Can the Pats get out of the Mankins contract?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4699733/logan-mankins-contract-details

     
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    Can the Pats get out of the Mankins contract?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4699733/logan-mankins-contract-details



    Some folks question his productivity.  He played w/ a torn ACL in 2012, and had surgery off-season. He's probably still not playing at 100%.  Maybe BB will have him restructure his contract or trade him after this season when considering his contract numbers and health.

    I'm thinking he prolly won't restructure his salary after Mankins' interaction during the last salary negotiations.

     
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    What makes a defensive line elite? They can't be stopped by any offensive line. To say the Patriots' offensive line struggles against the better defensive lines is to say that all team's offensive lines will struggle against them.

    That said, Scarnecchia will have these guys ready and Brady will need to make good decisions, which he will.

     
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    What makes a defensive line elite? They can't be stopped by any offensive line. To say the Patriots' offensive line struggles against the better defensive lines is to say that all team's offensive lines will struggle against them.

    That said, Scarnecchia will have these guys ready and Brady will need to make good decisions, which he will.

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    Theres a difference between the  others team DL outplaying the offensive line and thrashing them- too much thrashing this season!

     
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    Time to throw. Brady releases or dumps the ball faster than any other NFL QB which makes the O-Line look better than they are.

    I've been saying for some time that the O-Line is over rated. 

     

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

     
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    Is the problem Wendell or Connolly or both 



    A bit of both, and Mankins, too.

    Solder has been stellar. Vollmer was having a strong year, but Cannon has arguably played better than him since stepping in (although the sample size is small).

    Wendell, Mankins primarily, and Connolly (to a degree) have been the main culprits. 

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    You can't even compare that.

    Mankins plays alone all the time. Connolly and Wendell are usually working with each other's help. 

    On top of that ... Mankins grades out higher as a pass protector than either of them. 

    -2.3 LM

    -6.7 Connolly

    -8.3 Wendell. 

     
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    Time to throw. Brady releases or dumps the ball faster than any other NFL QB which makes the O-Line look better than they are.

    I've been saying for some time that the O-Line is over rated. 

     

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

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    Well, that changed when NE lost all of it's targets and had to start from scratch this season. The passing game was out of synch and it exposed the offensive line a bit. 

     

     
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    Time to throw. Brady releases or dumps the ball faster than any other NFL QB which makes the O-Line look better than they are.

    I've been saying for some time that the O-Line is over rated. 

     

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

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    Well, that changed when NE lost all of it's targets and had to start from scratch this season. The passing game was out of synch and it exposed the offensive line a bit. 

     

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    I hadn't looked at it that way, you're right.

     
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    Time to throw. Brady releases or dumps the ball faster than any other NFL QB which makes the O-Line look better than they are.

    I've been saying for some time that the O-Line is over rated. 

     

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

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    Well, that changed when NE lost all of it's targets and had to start from scratch this season. The passing game was out of synch and it exposed the offensive line a bit. 

     

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    I hadn't looked at it that way, you're right.

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    Yeha, you can only get rid of the ball as fast as someone can get open. 

    Brady is quick, but a lot fo that was Hernandez and Welker. When NE was whittled down to rookies, etc, nothing ran smoothly.

     
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    I've watched a lot of film of the o line recently.  Based on my review of the film, Wendell is the real weak point, with Connolly second.  Mankins mostly plays great, though of course he does make some mistakes like any player.  Z is right that Wendell and Connolly are usually working in tandem, while Mankins not only works by himself, but often blocks his primary man, then comes off to assist Solder or Wendell or just attack a LB at the second level.  Mankins is pulling a lot, too, helping out that right side on running plays. 

     
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    a little surprised noone wants to discuss the OL, considering the Panthers are playing the Patriots tomorrow, and boast one of the better front 7.

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    Back from the great north woods...hope everyone played nice last week.

    The above point is the entire point. The Pats O line win determine the outcome of the game...it's really as simple as that.

     

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