One KEY defensive strategy against the Broncos Sunday night...

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    One KEY defensive strategy against the Broncos Sunday night...

    IMHO, this game Sunday night will come down to how successful the Patriots D is against the Denver offense.  Regardless of how effective the offense may be, if the D can't keep the Broncos from scoring fast and furious, it will be a tough game to win.  With that said, my pick:

    The defensive backs need to fully disrupt the timing of the Broncos receivers and Manning. They need to jam them at the line and keep up with them.  As Jaws has aluded to on ESPN, Manning, in the Chiefs game, released the ball an average of 2.17 seconds after the snap.  He was able to do so because his receivers were not disrupted to get to the point on the field the timing of their routes required.  This is a tall order considering all the injuries the Pats are enduring.  But, to repeat an oft said phrase: "Next man up" will truly be in play Sunday night.

    Thoughts?

     
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    This is certainly how we used to own Gomer in years past.  Then of course Polian whined about it and now it is a lot harder to do.

     
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    My thought is you whine to the refs they are holding on every play and the rest will take care of it self since they owe us one big time!

     
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    Agree 100%. 

     

    I would go farther and say they should not be afraid of penalties at all, Let them get to the red zone from penalties alone. Just keep the holding an jamming wihtin 5 yard in the red zone and limit them to FG's...that is a huge victory.

    If they can get a few shots in on Gomer becasue he has to hold the ball great.

    The integritry of NFL officials is so low they will bookep calls going both ways and despite NE purposly holding will bring the game back to 'even' penalty wise  on some BS calls so they cannot be accussed of being biased.

    Just Like kuchely dared them to call a penalty on the last play of the game (to decide the game) and the refs pussied out, the will do the same here. Hold and bash the recievers , hit them right before the pass get there (and hard) the refs will not call it like they see it. They cannot even be that imbalanced for Gomer to call 30 penaties on one team and a few on the other...they simply do not have the nads.

    Anything short of this will be a shootout that I am afraid could go either way.

    Unfortunately I doubt BB will go this far as he probably has more respect for the game than the entire NFL corporate office.

     
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    This game is being billed as Brady vs Manning, no surprise.  Do you think Tom is a little bit PO'd with the coach for not giving him the weapons he needs in order to battle his foe?  Manning has many weapons.  If you rate Mannings weapons to throw to from 1-5 they are 4.5.  Patriots 2.

    Chiefs couldn't get to Manning, how in the hell will the Patriots defense get to him?

    Denver 41

    Patriots 31

     
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    In response to agcsbill's comment:
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    IMHO, this game Sunday night will come down to how successful the Patriots D is against the Denver offense.  Regardless of how effective the offense may be, if the D can't keep the Broncos from scoring fast and furious, it will be a tough game to win.  With that said, my pick:

    The defensive backs need to fully disrupt the timing of the Broncos receivers and Manning. They need to jam them at the line and keep up with them.  As Jaws has aluded to on ESPN, Manning, in the Chiefs game, released the ball an average of 2.17 seconds after the snap.  He was able to do so because his receivers were not disrupted to get to the point on the field the timing of their routes required.  This is a tall order considering all the injuries the Pats are enduring.  But, to repeat an oft said phrase: "Next man up" will truly be in play Sunday night.

    Thoughts?

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    Yeha, I was saying the same thing a few weeks back. It still is the way to disrupt Manning. He doesn't pass to WRs, but to spots on the field. The whole offense falls apart if you can rattle the timing mechanisms, and Manning isn't very good at working with broken plays.

    It hurts missing Dennard, big time. The rest of the CBs need to work the press. 

    IF Manning has to hold the ball or let it loose too early ... it's a very winable game. 

     

     
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    In response to agcsbill's comment:
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    IMHO, this game Sunday night will come down to how successful the Patriots D is against the Denver offense.  Regardless of how effective the offense may be, if the D can't keep the Broncos from scoring fast and furious, it will be a tough game to win.  With that said, my pick:

    The defensive backs need to fully disrupt the timing of the Broncos receivers and Manning. They need to jam them at the line and keep up with them.  As Jaws has aluded to on ESPN, Manning, in the Chiefs game, released the ball an average of 2.17 seconds after the snap.  He was able to do so because his receivers were not disrupted to get to the point on the field the timing of their routes required.  This is a tall order considering all the injuries the Pats are enduring.  But, to repeat an oft said phrase: "Next man up" will truly be in play Sunday night.

    Thoughts?

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    I definitely agree with this.  Every receiver needs to get bumped in the five yard area.  BB will, no doubt, have a few wrinkles to throw in on defense and offense.  Our offense needs to be patient and take what the defense gives them.  Vereen, in my opinion, may be th X factor in this game.  he is versatile and,can be used in so many different ways.  The o- line needs to play a great game and protect BradY, and we need sustained drives.  I have a good feeling about this game.  Go PATS!

     
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    In response to agcsbill's comment:
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    IMHO, this game Sunday night will come down to how successful the Patriots D is against the Denver offense.  Regardless of how effective the offense may be, if the D can't keep the Broncos from scoring fast and furious, it will be a tough game to win.  With that said, my pick:

    The defensive backs need to fully disrupt the timing of the Broncos receivers and Manning. They need to jam them at the line and keep up with them.  As Jaws has aluded to on ESPN, Manning, in the Chiefs game, released the ball an average of 2.17 seconds after the snap.  He was able to do so because his receivers were not disrupted to get to the point on the field the timing of their routes required.  This is a tall order considering all the injuries the Pats are enduring.  But, to repeat an oft said phrase: "Next man up" will truly be in play Sunday night.

    Thoughts?

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    Also dlinemen should count in their heads and put their hands up after 2 seconds to bat some balls down...  watch the quick slants and screens (Damarious especially, so jamming him makes a lot of sense.)

    Should be a good one where the fans can really help out the home town team.  They need to be extra loud.  

     
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    I just wish Brady was also playing against the Patriots defense.

     
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    In response to Uncle Rico's comment:
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    This game is being billed as Brady vs Manning, no surprise.  Do you think Tom is a little bit PO'd with the coach for not giving him the weapons he needs in order to battle his foe?  Manning has many weapons.  If you rate Mannings weapons to throw to from 1-5 they are 4.5.  Patriots 2.

    Chiefs couldn't get to Manning, how in the hell will the Patriots defense get to him?

    Denver 41

    Patriots 31

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    Not as bad now as it was a few weeks ago, infact if Julius Thomas cannot go the weapons on offense might favor the PAts.

     
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    In response to agcsbill's comment:
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    IMHO, this game Sunday night will come down to how successful the Patriots D is against the Denver offense.  Regardless of how effective the offense may be, if the D can't keep the Broncos from scoring fast and furious, it will be a tough game to win.  With that said, my pick:

    The defensive backs need to fully disrupt the timing of the Broncos receivers and Manning. They need to jam them at the line and keep up with them.  As Jaws has aluded to on ESPN, Manning, in the Chiefs game, released the ball an average of 2.17 seconds after the snap.  He was able to do so because his receivers were not disrupted to get to the point on the field the timing of their routes required.  This is a tall order considering all the injuries the Pats are enduring.  But, to repeat an oft said phrase: "Next man up" will truly be in play Sunday night.

    Thoughts?

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    This isn't next man up, it is more like next defense up at this point.

    When you finish the previous game with fewer starting players on your defense than backups, you are truly hurting.

    Frankly I am amazed how well the D has played so far even with the injuries. I don't think they or BB get enough credit for just how well they have played through the depletions.

    Take a moment and think about trying to finish an NFL caliber game with 6 out of 11 of your defensive starters out. ...and a 7th who was very questionable.

    The Patriots offense has to continue to improve and BE BETTER.

    The offense and Brady are still very inefficient, for the moment. In large part due to the horrendous start to the season because of injuries and new faces needing time. That warps that stat somewhat. I believe they have the lowest 3rd down conversion rate for a Pats offense since 2000, at the moment. They are 21st in the NFL at 35.8%. Denver is 2nd in the NFL at 48%. The Pats are 8th in the NFL in scoring drive efficiency at 39.2%. Denver is 1st in the NFL at 47.7%. The Pats offense best come to play or it will be a long night.

    If you told me The Patriots offense would be less efficient than the Panthers, regardless of the number of possessions in the game, I probably would not have believed it. The possessions typically come out equal or 1 different because that is how the game goes. You get one they get one.

    The Pats and Panthers each had 7 each although one of the Panthers was hardly a possession, end of half. Pats Defense missing 6 starters by game end. Pats offense missing 1 starter. Pats need to score more points. Carson Palmer and EJ Manuel with their offenses put up more points against the Panthers than Brady and the Pats. I would not even say the Panthers stopped the Pats at all in that game but doesn't matter, they didn't have to. Pats stopped themselves.

    If the Patriots offense continues to stop themselves they have no shot at winning the Broncos game. Doesn't matter if they stop themselves with poor execution or stupid penalties. The blitz pickup O-line call, Ridley fumble,  and Mankins hot head penalty for examples from last game. Scoring in the 20's and winning would be a surprise to me.

    They also need to play from in front. They have historically come out on the winning end more often when playing through the game with a lead the entire way against Manning. That could most likely be said for most games against any opponent but especially so against Manning. Manning won't make many mistakes but helping him feel a lil sense of urgency to "press" is when he does.

    Both offenses I assume are going to move the ball well. Which offense can be the more well oiled machine. Who can be more "consistently" efficient with the fewest mental mistakes for an entire game. That is the team and who will win the game in my opinion.

    Anyone hanging their hat on the Pats defense "rising to the occasion". Making the one big play to swing or save the game really never learns anything from watching the Patriots play. This is the same mentality that had people freaking out over the last Pats superbowl loss. The Pats defense is decimated. They are NOT turning into something new or better, miraculously, over night. Don't set yourself up for disappointment. They are wiped out.

    I expect the Pats defense to attempt to do what they do to everyone. Bend don't break. Try to make a team consistently work down a long field mistake free. Forcing the other team into a greater probability of beating themselves through a greater number of attempted flawless play executions. Not give up big chunks or easy and quick scores. I would also expect them to try and never show or give Manning the same thing twice, consecutively.

    The Patriots offense needs to score points! I honestly know nothing about Denvers D but everyone says they stink and are frauds. If that is true then I expect the Pats offense to put points on the board every possession. How  many 4th ands will the Pats go for in the game?

    One last point. I hear everyone being happy about the weather and how it will adversely affect Manning. No idea how it will but one thing I do have a strong belief in, it will affect Talib. IF he even plays. If Talib plays, just how effective or how long do you think that hip will last in the freezing cold? If it is as bad as everyone thinks I see that thing tightening up quick.

    Those would be my initial thoughts on the game.

     
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    LowFBIQ - very well put.

    The D will definitely be the challenge.  Oh how we wish just HALF of the orginal started out now were back!

    As for the offense, the red zone woes need to improve.  If the Pats can be more consistent in that area, this game could be a shoot-out.  The Denver D does not present the same challenge the Panthers did.  If there is any hope, it lies there.

    As I have said in previous threads, when most have the Pats down in a game like this, BB just has the knack to have the team ready to surprise everyone.  Remember when the Texans came into town last year and the result?  The same rhetoric was being heard across the land leading up to that game.  There is our precedent!

     

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