Re: One Single example of the difference a really good GM in the cap era can make
posted at 3/27/2012 7:24 PM EDT
In Response to Re: One Single example of the difference a really good GM in the cap era can make
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: One Single example of the difference a really good GM in the cap era can make : As his wife said, Tom can't do everything. I guess you didn't see any of the Jets games last year. If you cannot block you cannot run. Even if you have Jim Brown or Barry Sanders or whoever you want to pick. And if you cannot block you cannot pass (at least not too far downfield). Even if you have Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or John Unitas or whoever you want to pick. This is nothing new. It is the most rudimentary aspects of football. And neither Brady, nor BB as coach nor Dante as coach can actually make the blocks. Let's put it this way: did you watch the SB after the 2007 16-0 season? Did you see how much time Brady was getting? Why doo YOU think the O had so much trouble? Did Tom Brady lose the SB? DId he lose it again this year? Are you saying that TB cannot win the big one anymore? Or is it that he NEEDS guys to block for him and guys to catch the ball and guys to play D and kick and cover...? Brady cannot block or tackle or cover the opponents receivers any more than any QB can! There is a reason why there are 11 men on the field on O and another 11 on D and another 11 on KOs and punts and FGs and why there are backups and role players and packages (yes, there are packages... because it is sometimes advantageous to put in a player with specific skills that you might not want in there as much in a different situation - you ever wished for a "pass rusher" on this team?) So NO .... the Jets fell apart because their GM left them with no depth and too many flaws. The Pats weathered their storms because their GM knows it takes a WHOLE TEAM to play football. Unlike too many fans (and a handful here!) he realizes -as GM - that he needs 53 players. He even says it.... And if you doubt that but think the world of BB the coach then listen to what BB the coach says. He says you need 53 players to play 16 games and the playoffs. If he were setting a roster for 4 games I am sure he would adjust his strategy as GM. But the GM listens to what COACH BB says he NEEDS. Do you think you know BETTER then BB the coach as to what BB the coach needs? I think not. Stop playing fantasy football when you are talking about the real thing.
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Well I think you can also look at it this way...does Tom make players around him better? I think that is the case. Does Bill Belichick the coach make players on this roster better? I think that is also the case. So the point I was trying to make is that if you put Tom Brady and Bill Belichick on (not just the Jets) but virtually any NFL team, they'd win and win big time. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
You said it yourself that a GM's duties is more than the draft, before you consider this to be the highlight of Bill Belichick the GM, consider these players...Banta Cain, Bodden, Springs, Ocho, Haynesworth, Fred Taylor, Torry Holt, Joey Galloway, Barret, Adalius Thomas, Pierre Woods...
On the flip side you have...Moss, Welker, Woodhead, Warren, Waters, Carter.
To me it's a mixed bag...maybe average, maybe good. I don't think I'd call that very good, but when you throw in a coach that can take an average player and put him in positions that he will not be exposed - I think that's more good coaching than really good GMing. Saying to a player...look, you can't cover, you'll be in the game for 20 snaps - you'll be going forward on 15 of them. On the five where you'll be going backwards (covering) we'll make sure you're locked up with (this guy), we'll give you help...these are 7 things this guy likes to do...we'll make sure you know every single way to defend that before you step on that field Sunday...you'll be fine if you work hard.
This is a very heavily coached team and we have the best guy doing it. It also helps to have a quarterback that is so damn accurate that even a perfectly defended play usually has no chance to stop him.
Again, I'm not saying BB is a bad GM, I just wouldn't go out there and say he's done really good over the last 5 years. Now some bad luck has played into it (Wright getting hurt and Pryor), but some of it was not luck (Haynesworth, Ocho).