Re: Parcells Quits Yet Again
posted at 4/7/2011 7:18 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Parcells Quits Yet Again
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Parcells Quits Yet Again : But apparently a it takes a genius to take a Browns team that had been to the playoffs 4 out of 5 years and give them 4 out of 5 losing seasons.
Posted by PhatRex[/QUOTE]
Rexy, I let you get away with this Totally skewed argument once before, but not again...
Some notes on Belichick's tenure with Cleveland (beginning with your "Playoff Browns team 4 outta the 5 years prior to Belichick taking over" point):
1986: 12-4 Record...Won 1 in the playoffs, lost the next one. Cleveland's heyday.
1987: 10-5 Record...Won 1 in the playoffs, lost next 1 in the playoffs. Cleveland starts their long downward slide
1988: 10-6 Record...Lost their playoff appearance. And down...
1989: 9-6 Record...Won 1 in the playoffs, lost next one in the playoffs. Finally, rock bottom...
1990: 3-13... PhatRexy's "4 outta 5 PLAYOFF Years, before Belichick!" Regular Season Total: 42 Wins and 34 Losses...
Bill Belichick takes over and starts his massive overhauling of Cleveland's franchise:
1991: 6-10 Record... Browns Defense surrendered a league-worst and franchise-record 462 total points in 1990... In 1991? 298 Points (a drop of 10.1 points every game-Better-). Likewise, BB began his ball-control, mistake free Offense he loves with NE... Browns dropped from 37 Fumbles (losing 23) in 1990, to 18 Fumbles (losing 8) in BB's first year...Ints went from 28-10. In the end, 6 outta Cleveland's 10 defeats came by 4 points or less.
1992: 7-9 Record. Cleveland lost it's first 2 games, when it was finally determined Kosar was playing with a broken ankle. QB Todd Philcox took over in week 3, and fractured his thumb. By week 4 Cleveland's on QB #3, Mike Tomczak...Who led Browns to a 4-3 record, before Kosar finally returned. Kosar unfortunately, came back and s#cked...winning 3 and losing 6. In the end, Browns D continued to improve from the previous year, giving up a Top 5 275 Total Points (23 fewer than BB's first year...and just under 200 freaking points than the year before BB).
1993: 7-9 Record again. Browns started 3-0. BB signed Testaverde who ended up starting the 4th q of game 3 after Kosar had not put 1 put on the board...Testaverde led them to their lone score & Cleve won. Next week verses Indy testaverde went in again for Kosar who was throwing another big 0 in the first half...Browns ended up losing however, 23-10. Next week, Vinny again when Cleve was losing to Miami after the first half (Browns still lost 24-14). Finally BB replaced 30-something year old Kosar for Testaverde... VT won the next 2 before leaving with a seperated shoulder making way for Kosar again. Browns now 5-2 (2 complete wins from Testavered, 2 second half come from behind wins). Kosar's back, loses again vs Denver...and he's cut. Browns 5-3. Todd Philcox takes over (while VT's still out). Philcox goes 1-4, before Vinny comes back and wins final game. 7 wins 9 losses.
1994: 12-4 Record. Browns set a Franchise history best on Defense by allowing just 204 points to the opposition, while Cleveland's Offense under testaverde put a Top 5 league best for this year, 340 points on the board. They went 1 and 1 in the playoffs, losing to Pittsburgh.
1995: 5 Wins and 11 Losses... Hmm, whatever happened HERE?!? Well, Ownership decided that Browns were going to Baltimore... This shouldn't be a problem, right...considering this news would come at season's end. Wreong... Cleveland began the year 3 and 1...Then, RIGHT at the beginning of November, before the next game, the news broke (management tried to stifle it...didn't work)=Cleveland Browns no more...Baltimore Ravens, they will be. Cleveland won 2 and lost 10...the games, the fans, everything becoming sidebars considering NO-one knew who would be on the team, who wouldn't, who would be the coach, Browns fans were enraged (and couldn't give a sh#t...along with the team and players), etc., etc., and etc..
Final Record before the news broke about the move in BB completely overhauling a team= 35 Wins and 33 Losses... After the news broke? 37 Wins and 43 Losses.
~Still, PhatRexy makes it sound like Bill belichick ran Cleveland's Dynasty into the ground=B.S.