In response to Muzwell's comment:
In response to mthurl's comment:
Ocho Cinco...traded a 5 and a six for him, then acquired his remaining three years 18 million.
Jonathan Fanene. Cincy laughed as we signed him to a 3 year 12 million dollar deal. They laughed harder when he went home crying, never to be seen again.
Leigh Bodden. 25 million dollar deal. Never made it past his second year into it.
Fred Taylor. 12 million dollar deal. Played four games.
Shaun Ellis. 2 years 8 million. Was supposed to replace Seymore. Instead he literally crapped his pants every Sunday in front of 60k people.
Kyle Arrington. 3 years 12 million
Danny Amendola. 30 million dollar contract
Brandon Llyod. What was it? 15 million
Sciancoe and Fells. 5 million between the both of them...neither one did anything.
Adalious Thomas. 33 million
Mike Wright. 8 million
Aaron Hernandez. 45 million...turned out to be Dexter Morgan
Holt, Galloway, Gaffney, Stallworth. 6 million. Not a single one could even stand on their own two legs.
Robert Gallery, Joseph Addai, Marcus Stroud. What did they cost? Doesn't matter...not a single one of them made it past two days in training camp!
Adrian Wilson. Gave him a 1.5 million dollar retirement gift. Gave one to John Lynch too.
Albert Heynesworth. 2 years 5 million. They had to dress him up and drive him to his court appearances. Then he tried to punch Pepper Johnson in the face. See yeah later'
There is more, but I have to go shopping:(. Too bad the Patriots didn't do a little better shopping when we had 5 years of salary cap space and a huge window of opportunity...more draft picks than anyone, etc. we were set up for the future, etc...we were smarter than everyone else.
The warnings were out people!
I'm not sure I've read a more disingenuous or flat out wrong post ever. Seriously, you should go into politics. You're very adept at spinning, and you seem to have quite the following judging by the responses to your post. Lots of lemmings out there, no wonder morons keep getting re-elected.
A bunch of these numbers are just wrong. In fact, they're not even close. Let's look at Fanene as an example.
Fanene's deal was 3 years, $9.8 mil, not $12 mil that you just made up out of your imagination, apparently, sounds better than 9.8 I guess...
He was paid just the initial signing bonus of $2.5 mil. They got the remaining portion of his bonus ($1.3 mil) waived. They got the dead money ($2.5 mil) waived this year. So he cost the Patriots a grand total of $1.3 million against their 2012 salary cap, period. He cost Bob Kraft $2.5 mil in actual money, which I'm sure he's not thrilled with, but he'll survive.
A little different than the $12 million you portray, which clearly has no basis in reality.
Pretty much every contract you listed is either wrong, or leaves out somewhat important details, like THEY NEVER GOT PAID MOST OF THAT MONEY.
Saying Amendola got a $30 million contract is laughable, really. First it was $28 mil, which I guess is close enough, but more importantly only $10 mil is guaranteed and $15 mil will not likely ever be paid. That's what he's due to receive in salary the last three years of the contract ($4 mil in '15, $5 mil in '16 and $6 mil in '17). Unless he has a great year next year, he won't see any of that, and the cap consequences are manageable.
Brandon Lloyd, $15 million? It was 3 years, $12 mil of which he actually received under $4 mil between bonus and salary.
The rest of your numbers are equally flawed, you said Fells and Shiancoe were paid $5 mil, wrong.
Fells signed a 3 year/$5.25 mil contract, of which he received $2 mil (salary and bonus for 2012) before he was let go, Shiancoe signed a $1.2 mil one year contract with $400K guaranteed.
Politics, seriously dude. You have a future.
Muzzle I'm not going to sit here and break down every ounce of those contracts, but did we, or did we not sign all that hot garbage? Yes we did. Now do you want to google the Internet and figure what it cost to replace ALL those players because they didn't work out in both salary and draft compensation, because I'm sure the totals will be much higher? I'd equate it to getting stuck in the mud and just sitting there burning fuel as you can't get out...just having someone mindlessly dump expensive gas into your tank as you sit there smoking the ever living hell out of those tires.
Now I googled that Fanene contract, it said 15 million, I'm not sure if they are adding the 3.5 million bonus in or not. And saying Amendola got 30 million is laughable? He got 28...oh the horror of it all.
And listen I know that those (and virtually every single contract signed in the NFL don't reach their end as the players are cut), in fact I've been saying that for years...the NFL salary cap is the most fluid thing in sports. The fact remains that resources unfortunately are not so easily replaced (draft picks, etc) and the fact remains we will go limping into the playoffs once again because we wasted countless resources on mistakes.
And for someone that said the entire post was "flat out wrong", look at Sciancoe and Fells. The total contract money is 7.5 according to you. I actually priced total money lower at 5 million. Did I screw up on Shaun Ellis too? Did I go too low? What about Haynesworth? Or Galloway? How about Adrian Wilson? Was it 1.2 million for his retirement gift or did he accept a cash payout of 500k that I didn't google hard enough...because that's a problem too, you can google these things 1000 different ways. Bottom line, all those players were hot garbage and I could of listed 50 more.