Re: Patriots Dead Money
posted at 2/9/2014 11:10 PM EST
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Except that you are wrong, Goldson isn't a SS he is a FS, and and has had really 1 good year with 6 picks and a pro bowl trip, after signing his 42 million deal with 22 million guaranteed he had 70 tackles and a sack playing next to star "Strong Safety" Mark Barron and stud CB Revis.
Red Bryant recived 35 million and has a 8.5 million cap hit.
Seahawks LE Red Bryant currently has an $8.5 million cap number for 2014. Working against Bryant is a $3 million roster bonus due on March 14. Bryant only played 488 snaps in 2013, offers next to nothing in terms of a pass rush, and turns 30 in April. The Seahawks are looking to clear as much cap space as possible with important players like DL Michael Bennett set to hit the open market next month And like it or not admonishing the Hernandez selections and contract given is only done with 20-20 hindsight. Fanene lied about addiction to pain killers, his injury was in 2010, he turned in back to back good run support seasons with 6 sacks a piece and was the low risk, high reward signing that red Bryant was not. Only with the hindsight of what happened could he be considered a bad signing at a postion of need. 20-20. So, in reality Red bryant for 35 million to play next to 50 million dollar Wilfork would have been a bad signing, and Goldson for 42 million to play about as well as Gregory played at another FS spot next to DMC also would have been a terrible decision.[/QUOTE]
According to Pro Football Focus (subscription required), Bryant's plus-6.1 rating against the run is sixth amongst all defensive ends in the NFL, even though Bryant has played roughly half the number of snaps of those players ahead of him. On a per-snap basis, they have Bryant as the best run-stuffing DE in the league.
oh look I can find websites that quotes one of your favorites saying he's one of the best run stuffing DE's in the league. Now I know we didn't have a running problem this year did we? Except mine actually references a website (Pro Football Focus), where is yours from? Oh yeah you reference his 2014 cap number but fail to say if they cut him it only costs $3mil in dead space this year and he has a $3mil in roster bonuses this year, so in otherwords if he didn't perform they could cut him for essentially what it cost to cut Fanene....... His "large" contract was all base or roster bonus after 2 years so you can cut him after 2 years and not have a large cap hit, actually similars to dead money to cut Fanene but just cherry pick numbers without showing the real cost.
Btw it's comical you said Fanene was a low risk signing as it turns out he was all risk. It seems 31 other teams not to touch him. It's not like other teams were chomping at the bit at signing such a great player to such a low cost deal. What do you think they knew that the Pats didn't?
That is my point, why pay a guy 35 million who's only value is against the run while we already have Wilfork who is dominate against the run? So we sign Kelly, a player who can hold the gap while still getting after the QB for a fraction of the cost! If we signed red and he tore his acl we would have an 8.2 million dollar cap hit for a situational run defender instead of an all around solid DT at 1.8 or whatver his cap hit is.
Bull crap bull crap bull crap. Did you watch the NFC Championship game? Have you seen Bryant play? He may not be putting up big sack numbers, but I assure you this guy moves very very well for his size. Now of he played here you'd make all sorts of excuses for his lack of pass rush production...isn't asked to rush, plays within the scheme, has gap responsibilities, has lane responsibilities, has contain, is supposed to let the linebacker make the play, eats up space, etc, etc, etc. Bryant not playing here removes you from giving him credit as a player, but if Belichick signed him you'd put him in the hall of fame. Guaranteed.
Bruant was our off season priority one that year, we called him as soon as free agency started, numerous articles said he was our number one target...then we low balled him. We had him in Belichick's office and we Patriot Wayed him...same with Goldson. Dumb. Dumb team building.
Dumb team building would be to sign Gokdson at 42 million dollars when he is a free friggggnnn safety the same as mccourty just not as good. Same with bryant at 35 million when you have 40 million dollar wilfork. It's like you guys just ignore a fact, and want to slam the gm so you concoct scenarios where we made a huge mistake by not signing 40 million dollar FA's, both of which had down years in 2013.
Too much energy wasted here.