Re: Pats looking to move the 28th pick in the draft.
posted at 3/21/2011 3:47 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Pats looking to move the 28th pick in the draft.
[QUOTE]In Response to Pats looking to move the 28th pick in the draft. : The Chargers 50th and 61st picks would be slightly more than equal to the Pats 28th pick, on the draft chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670
. If the choice were yours, would you make this trade?
Posted by TexasPat3[/QUOTE]
First, Excellent point CapnFoxboro
. It'd be nice for future successes (READ for some: ALWAYS to remain a top-tier team in the hunt EVERY year), for even MORE NFL Teams to be extra desperate to win right this second (at the expense of being even relevant for 3-4 years)...
And yes TP
~ Dear god...IN A FRACTION of a HEARTBEAT, would I take this trade and run with it... People seem to forget, So many aspects RE: HOW a Draft Works, and How a PARTICULAR Draft even LOOKS, for god's sakes... "Oh, we traded down...Jesus, Not Again?!?"
Here's a simple (very simple) breakdown (and I have made mention this here). Simply 1, of a great many variables, one needs to account for is (and this is simply my wording here): #1 Elite Prospects (verses) #2 Top-tier Prospects... Again, it's a guessing game...yet, those of us who follow the draft 365, can and ARE able to make it, a GAMBLING game, one more in our favor...
Last Draft, These "Elite-Prospects" went deep... REAL deep. Deeper than years. These are guys who CAN translate, in a better educated percentage than other prospects, To BE potential superstars/pro-bowlers/team leaders/very good top starters, and/or all of the above... In 2010? These usually, anywhere from Top 15 guys in Rd 1-Top 28 guys in Rd 1 (#32 of Rd 1 might be pushing it, anytime)- WERE going roughly anywhere from the Top 5-Top 10/12 Positions well into Rd #2... This 2011 year? RE: These "Elite-Type Prospects"...First, it's VERY hazy this year (extremely...more than most years). But, IF I had to place them, end on end, These Elite guys are not going past #20 of Rd 1...#22, or #23 is pushing it to it's limits. Obviously guys will fall as teams reach for positional needs over and above BPA...but regardless.
Now, after these "Elite-Top-tier Prospects", for anywhere from the very end of Rd #2 (in a simply terrible/awful Draft Class year), TO anywhere from, say idk- Roughly 1/3 way into Rd #4 (a very good draft year), You're IDEALLY (and with good scouting, etc.. You "CAN" hopefully target a very steady Starter). These guys are your Starters/Good Contributers/Above average, non weak-links... In that '10 freak year these guys insanely (which didn't happen for a decade prior), could be still found to almost into a portion of roughly the first portion of Round #6... This 2011 Year? And here's the thing: For these guys, It's good. Very good, better than most years. Say, halfway through Rd #5...take or give 1/3 of a Rd. RE: Those Top-tier projected prospects of 2010 vs 2011, THIS isn't NEARLY as good... Yet, RE: STILL nabbing a very good starter and very good contributer for some years- 2010 vs 2011, This particular ratio ain't too shabby (MUCH better imho, than most years...just not quite as good as that '10 freakish year here).
What does this mean?
Obviously, you see how things are being played out... But unless a meteor storm hits, Do NOT count on being able to come away with one of these "Elite" guys @ Selection #28 of Rd 1... Belichick scouts pretty d#mn good, but this is pushing it. YET, Trading #28 away, and getting, not 1 (IF you kept #28), but 2 Very Good Starters, with less risk both numbers wise regarding amount of players themselves, AND cap wise, AND simply how you can even manage and maneuver with having selections #50 and #61, as oppossed to simply #28... Jesus, NO Brainer.
Jesus...As most now believe the guy I wanted (Muhammod Wilkerson) will be off the board now @ #28... I'll offer a different example: Do You want EITHER: WR Jon Baldwin OR DE/OLB Akeem Ayers @ Selection #28... OR, would you like a combo of: WR Leonard Hankerson (maybe @ #51), RB Mikel Leshoure (maybe @ #51), WR Titus Young, RB Demarco Murray, OG Danny Watkins, RB Daniel Thomas, DT Allen Bailey, DT Jarvis Jenkins, CB Johnny Patrick, CB Jalil Brown, OT James Carpenter, OT Joseph Barksdale...I could go on and on and on. This 2011 Draft Class IS very, very deep with talent...but very, very shallow AND "Iffy" with that "Elite Talent".