Pats Roster by Position

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    Pats Roster by Position

    Just thought I'd waste some time...

    I think everyone in BLACK is safe (46 players) leaving 7 spots for the rest of 'em.  I'd guess Slater, Aiken, DeVree, Redd, Alexander, McKenzie, Williams but they might have to protect a few draft picks like Ohrnberger, Bussey, Jake IngramTate can go PUP to start the year, which gives the slot to Slater.

    QB:

    Tom Brady

    Kevin O'Connell

    Matt Gutierrez

    Brian Hoyer


    RB:

    Fred Taylor

    Kevin Faulk

    Sammy Morris

    Laurence Maroney

    BenJarvus Green-Ellis


    WR:

    Randy Moss

    Wesley Welker (PR)

    Joey Galloway

    Brandon Tate (KR/PUP)

    Greg Lewis

    Sam Aiken

    Matt Slater (KR/S)

    Julian Edelman (QB)


    TE:

    Ben Watson

    Chris Baker

    David Thomas

    Tyson DeVree (FB)

    Brad Listorti

    DT:

    Vince Wilfork

    Ron Brace

    LeKevin Smith

    Titus Adams
    Myron Pryor

     

    DE:

    Richard Seymour

    Ty Warren

    Jarvis Green

    Mike Wright

    Kenny Smith

    Darryl Richard


    ILB

    Jerod Mayo

    Tedy Bruschi

    Gary Guyton

    Tyrone McKenzie

    Eric Alexander (WR)

     

    Antonio Appelby

     


    OLB:

    Adalius Thomas

    Pierre Woods

    Tully Banta-Cain

    Shawn Crable

    Vince Redd

    Bo Ruud

    Angelo Craig


    CB:

    Shawn Springs

    Leigh Bodden

    Darius Butler

    Jonathan Wilhite

    Terrence Wheatley

    Mike Richardson

    Antwain Spann

    Jamar Love


    S:

    James Sanders

    Brandon Meriweather

    Patrick Chung

    Ray Ventrone (WR)

    Tank Williams

    Marcus McClinton

     

    K:

    Stephen Gostkowski

     

    LS:

    Nathan Hodel

    Jake Ingram

     

    P:

    Chris Hanson

    Tom Malone

     

    OL:

    Dan Connolly

    Russ Hochstein

    Nick Kaczur

    Dan Koppen

    Matt Light

    Stephen Neal

    Ryan O'Callaghan

    Sebastian Vollmer

    Rich Ohrnberger

    Ryan Wendell

    Wesley Britt

    Billy Yates

    George Bussey

    Damane Duckett

    Al Johnson

    Mark LeVoir


     
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    I’m going to do mine a little bit differently. Black are players that I’m sure will make the team. Blue are players that could perhaps miss the team, but are on my current 53 man roster. Green (Brandon Tate) is players on PUP and then possibly IR. Red are players that could make the team but are not on my current 53 man roster. The projected starters are bolded.

     

    QB: Tom Brady, Kevin O’Connell, Matt Gutierrez, Brian Hoyer

    RB: Laurence Maroney, Kevin Faulk, Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Eric Kettani

    WR: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, Sam Aiken, Greg Lewis, Brandon Tate, Julian Edelman, Tyree Barnes

    TE: Ben Watson, Chris Baker, David Thomas, Tyson Devree, Brad Listorti

    T: Matt Light, Sebastian Vollmer, Nick Kaczur, Ryan O’Callaghan, Mark Levoir, Wesley Britt, Damane Duckett, Jermail Porter

    G/C: Dan Koppen, Stephen Neal, Logan Mankins, Russ Hochstein, Rich Ohrnberger, George Bussey, Al Johnson, Billy Yates, Dan Connolly, Ryan Wendell

    DL: Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Mike Wright, Ron Brace, Jarvis Green, Myron Pryor, Le Kevin Smith, Darryl Richard, Kenny Smith, Titus Adams

    OLB: Adalius Thomas, Shawn Crable, Pierre Woods, Vince Redd, Tully Banta-Cain, Angelo Craig

    ILB: Jerod Mayo, Tedy Bruschi, Tyrone McKenzie, Gary Guyton, Bo Ruud, Eric Alexander, Antonio Appleby

    CB: Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden, Darius Butler, Terrence Wheatley, Jonathan Wilhite, Mike Richardson, Jamar Love

    S: James Sanders, Brandon Meriweather, Patrick Chung, Matt Slater, Tank Williams, Ray Ventrone, Antwain Spann, Marcus McClinton

    K: Stephen Gostkowski

    P: Chris Hanson, Tom Malone

    LS: Jacob Ingram, Nathan Hodel

     

    25 offensive players

    25 defensive players

    3 special teams players

     
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    great posts guys! i almost fully agree. the only changes i would make would be including tank williams (if healthy) and yates. I really want to see the role tank would play and i think, when healthy, he could be an intimidating presence. I believe yates has been an all around solid lineman who has stepped up and done a great job when asked. to make room, maybe cut myron prior and mark levoir. obviously training camp will help sort a lot of these things with level of play and injuries.

    can't wait!
     
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    A surprise cut for me......Stephen Neal. Too many injuries, not reliable enough for the $3Million salary.

    Also, I don't see Mathew Slater sticking around. Sure he had a good number of special team tackles. Besides that, he could not contribute on D, on O or even as a return guy.
     
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    There are always surprise cuts, and extra credit for the most surprising. Neal is a good one. I'm going bolder: Bruschi. Also, David Thomas is definitely on the bubble, as will be Aiken, as his special teams contributions can be provided by rookies like Chung.
     
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    Bruschi, Thomas, maybe. Neal isn't going to be cut. He could start on PUP and then go to IR. When he's healthy, Neal is the team's best offensive linemen. There isn't a player currently on the team that could replace Neal and start at a level close to Neal.
     
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    QB: Tom Brady, Kevin O’Connell, Matt Gutierrez, Brian Hoyer

    RB: Laurence Maroney, Kevin Faulk, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Sammy Morris, Fred Taylor, Eric Kettani

    WR: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, Greg Lewis, Ray Ventrone, Brandon Tate, Sam Aiken, Julian Edelman, Tyree Barnes

    TE: Ben Watson, Chris Baker, David Thomas, Tyson Devree, Brad Listorti

    T: Matt Light, Nick Kaczur, Sebastian Vollmer, Ryan O’Callaghan, Mark Levoir, Wesley Britt, Damane Duckett, Jermail Porter

    G/C: Dan Koppen, Stephen Neal, Logan Mankins, Russ Hochstein, Billy Yates, Rich Ohrnberger, George Bussey, Al Johnson, Billy Yates, Dan Connolly, Ryan Wendell

    DL: Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Jarvis Green, Mike Wright, Ron Brace, Le Kevin Smith, Titus Adams, Myron Pryor, Darryl Richard, Kenny Smith,

    OLB: Adalius Thomas, Shawn Crable, Pierre Woods, Vince Redd, Tully Banta-Cain, Vince Redd, Angelo Craig

    ILB: Jerod Mayo, Tedy Bruschi, Tyrone McKenzie, Gary Guyton, Bo Ruud, Eric Alexander, Antonio Appleby

    CB: Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden, Darius Butler, Terrence Wheatley, Jonathan Wilhite, Mike Richardson, Jamar Love

    S: James Sanders, Brandon Meriweather, Patrick Chung, Matt Slater, Tank Williams, Antwain Spann, Marcus McClinton

    K: Stephen Gostkowski

    P: Chris Hanson, Tom Malone

    LS: Jacob Ingram, Nathan Hodel

     

    25 offensive players

    25 defensive players

    3 special teams players

    Every fan is entitled to an irrational hatred of one player and for me it's Fred Taylor.  I admire what he's done in the league but he's 33 years old, he's eating up $3M in cap room (what we saved on Vrabel), and you know he's going to be injured.

    Likewise, every fan is entitled to an irrational love of one player for me it's Ray Ventrone.  When we were clinging to a 4 point lead in the waning minutes of the Super Bowl, he tackled the Giants kick returner on the 17 yard line.  They needed a miracle to win the game with that field position.  Granted they got one, but that's not his fault. 

     
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    There is $300k cap space gained if you cut Fred Taylor. That's nothing.
     
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    Hochstein makes the roster automatically because he can snap the ball to play the center position.

    Woods starts over Crable unless he has an explosion of talent in the preseason or Pierre gets hurt.

    David Thomas is not on any bubble; other than one bone headed play last season he is a great young tight end and in case you didn't notice we don't have any fullbacks on the roster which makes him and tight end depth important.

    Neal is a very good guard but I'd say Logan Mankins is our best, if we need short yardage we usually run on his side.

    My surprise cut is a toss up between Galloway and Springs, though Fred Taylor could be there as well because of age.  I'll say Springs because he won't stay healthy enough to make the cut and the young guys will be good enough to fill the position.


     
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    Hochstein isn't necessarily a lock. Al Johnson has been a starter in this league at center. Rich Ohrnberger is also an option at center as is Billy Yates. Bussy is the one player being considered at guard who might not be able to play center, but he also projects to kick out as a backup tackle which is also valuable versatility.

    The starting OLB position is likely open to whoever performs the best of Crable, Woods, Redd, and TBC. Any of them can earn those plays.

    It's a good indication that Thomas will be back now that we went through early free agency and the draft and the Pats haven't added any real competition to take Thomas's spot. We might just carry two though and use the extra spot for an extra offensive lineman.

    We run Mankins side because Neal is able to pull to that side and open up a lane for the ball carrier. Last year pretty much should have convinced everyone how important Stephen Neal is to this team. He misses the first half dozen games and the offensive line is terrible. He comes back and suddenly their back to true form.

    None of those cuts make any sense unless they absolutely flop in the preseason. Cutting Springs would absolutely destroy the cap. Cutting Taylor doesn't benefit the cap. Galloway is relatively cheap, but if cut, we don't have a player to fill the role that fits.
     
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    [QUOTE]Bruschi, Thomas, maybe. Neal isn't going to be cut. He could start on PUP and then go to IR. When he's healthy, Neal is the team's best offensive linemen. There isn't a player currently on the team that could replace Neal and start at a level close to Neal.
    Posted by KyleCleric2[/QUOTE]
    I don't know if this is because I've been a Bruschi fan since he came out of college or because what he's meant to the team but I don't think he'll be cut.  He loves this team with a passion, Teddy knows Teddy he will not get on the field if he will hurt the team.  He'll walk away without the need to cut him.

    He embodies what the Pats are about and that's TEAM.  This is now my football brain trying to work, if Teddy is not there where's the experience in the LBs?  He needs to be there even if it's a very reduced role.  Without Vrable, AT not dependable because of injuries TB has so much knowledge to share with the new guys that alone earns him a spot.  But again that could be me just been a bit attached to this player in specific, come on this guy is what the Pats have been for years now.  Glad I don't have to make that call, and what would that locker room feel like without Bruschi.  Eventually it will happen but I think we're too young this year for this to be the year 54 is not there. 
     
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    [QUOTE]...Eventually it will happen but I think we're too young this year for this to be the year 54 is not there. 
    Posted by Pats7393[/QUOTE]

    That's a tough one, we all see that he can't pressure the QB anymore, can't cover the slot, TE or HBacks, and really hasn't made an impact play for over two years, maybe longer.  He just doesn't get exposed because the offense has been record breaking.  Plus, the chance of him making it through a full season is probably slim... we know how hard he played before the stroke, and its been showing for a couple years. 
     
    Seems like he is replaceable at this point of his career.  Even with Bruschi gone, I like the young LBs they have on the team and didn't think they needed to bring in a smaller, second tier LB from this draft.  Of course, if Taylor is still in the cards...
     
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    [QUOTE]That's a tough one, we all see that he can't pressure the QB anymore, can't cover the slot, TE or HBacks, and really hasn't made an impact play for over two years, maybe longer.  He just doesn't get exposed because the offense has been record breaking.  Plus, the chance of him making it through a full season is probably slim... we know how hard he played before the stroke, and its been showing for a couple years.    Seems like he is replaceable at this point of his career.  Even with Bruschi gone, I like the young LBs they have on the team and didn't think they needed to bring in a smaller, second tier LB from this draft.  Of course, if Taylor is still in the cards...
    Posted by fuzzy1[/QUOTE]

    I agree with all you said fuzzy1, I think this is one of the hardest things us Pats fans will have to accept.  Man it will be tough not to see 54 there, I remember when he had the stroke and the two guys BB brought in but now we are ok with Mayo and another guys taking over.

    Could be Brinkley or might be in a year or two this UDFA they just signed Applelby.  I really like this guy and thought he could have been drafted in the 5th round, we also picked up Guyton who is an ILB in 3-4 but probably more of a special teams guy.  Ran a 4.47 40 at 245lbs not too bad but he's only 6'1" so might be just a bit short for the inside.
     
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    I doubt Bruschi yet will be gone. I wouldn't be surprised though if this was his last season. I do think people underestimate him, relating all of his lack of production to deterioration of his athleticism as opposed to partially being problems with some of the players around him and a different role that he has had to play since Johnson retired. With the front 7 coming back healthy and a couple of additions and players gaining experience in the LB corps, I suspect that he'll perform better than people anticipate. But I also wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, we have Adalius Thomas, Jerod Mayo, Tyrone McKenzie, and Shawn Crable as our starting linebackers.

     
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    None of those cuts make any sense unless they absolutely flop in the preseason. Cutting Springs would absolutely destroy the cap. Cutting Taylor doesn't benefit the cap. Galloway is relatively cheap, but if cut, we don't have a player to fill the role that fits.
    Posted by KyleCleric2[/QUOTE]

    I guess my point was that one of these guys won't stay healthy throughout preseason and will be cut, not every move is made for cap space, if they aren't healthy enough to play then they will be gone, the surprise part is that many have these players penciled in as starters.
     
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    [QUOTE]There are always surprise cuts, and extra credit for the most surprising. Neal is a good one. I'm going bolder: Bruschi. Also, David Thomas is definitely on the bubble, as will be Aiken, as his special teams contributions can be provided by rookies like Chung.
    Posted by seattlemaslow[/QUOTE]

    Neal may be a strong possibility...we save $2,039,440 in cap space if he is cut.  We save $1,440,000 in Cap space if Bruschi is cut.

    Thomas $74,440 savings and Aiken $297,500 savings are less likely to go.
     
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    [QUOTE]A surprise cut for me......Stephen Neal. Too many injuries, not reliable enough for the $3Million salary. Also, I don't see Mathew Slater sticking around. Sure he had a good number of special team tackles. Besides that, he could not contribute on D, on O or even as a return guy.
    Posted by pats-fan-2007[/QUOTE]

    I agree on Neal and Slater. I'd add Bruschi as a cut. We're pretty deep at ILB now. Mark my words Tate is not going on the Pup list and he will be returning kicks for us next year!

    -- dx7

     
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    [QUOTE]I doubt Bruschi yet will be gone. I wouldn't be surprised though if this was his last season. I do think people underestimate him, relating all of his lack of production to deterioration of his athleticism as opposed to partially being problems with some of the players around him and a different role that he has had to play since Johnson retired. With the front 7 coming back healthy and a couple of additions and players gaining experience in the LB corps, I suspect that he'll perform better than people anticipate. But I also wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, we have Adalius Thomas, Jerod Mayo, Tyrone McKenzie, and Shawn Crable as our starting linebackers.
    Posted by KyleCleric2[/QUOTE]

    I think this will be Teddy's last year. I would also like to see what Gary Guyton can do at ILB. Should be some good battles at LB, and DB's on defense this year.
     

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