Re: PATS vs RAVENS - Game Chat
posted at 10/4/2009 10:13 PM EDT
In Response to Re: PATS vs RAVENS - Game Chat
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: PATS vs RAVENS - Game Chat : All THREE of the final three passes hit Clayton in the hands. Regardless of whether he was intimidated or not, it was a poor showing by an inferior player. I'm not talking s***, but I think it's time for you to admit that Clayton is subpar. Let's go penalty by penalty. 1Q, 13:20. Encroachment, Tully Banta-Cain (NE). Straight forward. 1Q, 11:59. False Start, Jared Gaither (BAL). Straight forward. I hope you're not arguing these. 1Q, 10:12. Encroachment, Adalius Thomas (NE). Straight forward. 1Q, 07:28. Delay of Game, Flacco (BAL). Don't even try it. No excuses for QB's to take delay of game penalties. Besides, by your theory, this penalty didn't matter because Mason caught a touchdown immediately herafter. 1Q, 03:35. Roughing the Passer, Haloti Ngata (BAL). Yes, this was absurd to the casual fan. Yes, even as a Patriots fan I didn't like it. BUT the league has been consistent on this call for the past two years, if not more. 2Q, 15:00. False Start, Dan Koppen (NE). 2Q, 7:11. Intentional Grounding, Joe Flacco (BAL). Yes, he was outside the pocket, but the ball never came close to the line of scrimmage. This is his own fault - he threw it left handed. This is besides the point, though, because the Ravens' o-line got beat bad today. 2Q, 5:16. Roughing the Passer, Terrelle Suggs (BAL). This was the dirtiest play of the day. Suggs was NOT touched by a blocker. He took three steps and then fell shoulder first right into Brady's knee. You just don't fall into guys' knees. Regardless, this was undoubtedly the correct call. The ball was away for a good second and a half, and Suggs had three steps and two seconds to go elsewhere (somewhere other than Brady's knee). I hope Suggs is fined to send a message, but I don't expect or want a suspension. 2Q, 2:49. Unnecessary Roughness, Mike Wright (NE). I had a HUGE beef with this one. It wasn't the hitting the quarterback in the head thing (that's roughing). It's beyond me how he got a penalty. The only thing I saw that was even remotely unnecessary was trying to strip the ball. The PATRIOTS have a right to be upset about this one. NOT the Ravens. 3Q, 13:38. Illegal Contact, C. Carr (BAL). It was 3rd and 10, but there was no debate as to whether Welker was 5 yards downfield (he was running a 8-10 yard out), and no doubt whether Carr touched him (he pushed). You may not LIKE THE RULE, but it's still the rule, and the call was correct. By your theory, this call doesn't matter anyway - the Patriots ended up punting. 3Q, 13:33. Unsportsmanlike Conduct, Baltimore bench. Again, by your theory, this penalty had no effect on the outcome because the Pats ended up punting. This was, though, undoubtedly stupid. There's no excuse for a coach costing a team 15 yards - coaches should know how not to hurt their team's efforts. 3Q, 13:07. Holding, Matt Light (NE). No argument here, it was the right call because Light was beat. 3Q, 2:31. Encroachment during the extra point kick. 3Q, 1:52. Offensive pass interference, Derrick Mason (BAL). Mason ran into Bodden. If I were a Ravens fan, this would be the call to debate, because it was debatable. 4Q, 7:18. Illegal motion, Chris Baker (NE). I had a huge beef with this one because it was a beautifully drawn play that was executed correctly within the rules, and was penalized anyway. By the way, the Ravens didn't challenge whether Baker got the first down - they challenged whether or not it was a catch. This cost the Pats a red zone first down. Out of the 9 penalties called on the Ravens, only two were questionable (roughing the passer on Ngata and offensive pass interference on Mason). The other 7 were boneheaded plays. One was just outright dirty (Suggs taking a dive at Brady's knee unprovoked). The Ravens overcame their one questionable call by scoring on the McGahee pass over the middle. Out of the 5 penalties called on the Patriots, one was questionable (unnecessary roughness on Mike Wright) and three were boneheaded. One might have saved Brady from another strip-sack (Light's hold). 7 boneheaded penalties on the Ravens. The Patriots scored twice after being flagged, showing that they could overcome penalties. The refs had no effect. The Ravens lost.
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