Re: Peter King
posted at 8/16/2010 12:56 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Peter King
[QUOTE]How is it critical when it's completely off base? If you are critical, at least have a leg to stand on. Get it? Patten can still play right now if he wanted to. He decided to retire because he has young kids blowing by him in camp. This is a good thing. Not a bad thing. Again, the media looks for a name on the shirt they recognize AND King also conveniently leaves out Edelman, Tate and the TEs. Hey, Peter, name me Brady's best TEs in his career here. Yeah, that's what I thought. This is my point. You call it "thin", I call it DEEP at WR. Very deep. He mentions Price, but mysteriously leaves out a VERY impressive Julian Edelman and a eye popping Tate. This is BETTER THAN ANYTHING BRADY HAS HAD HIS ENTIRE CAREER INCLUDING 2007. IN 2007, he had Stallworth who was not even used after Week 6 because that's how deadly that offense was. Now, he has 3 TEs being brought in here, Moss/Welker, Edelman and a young Tate? This is thin? I get Tate has never played 16 games in his career before. Neither has Price. If this is thin, what is Indy's WR corps? "Quite thin"? Wayne = Moss Gonzalez = Welker Garcon = Tate Collie = Edelman I am using "=" here to serve the purpose of what each WR represents in terms of quality for each team. Obviously, I think Moss />Wayne, Welker />Gonzalez, I'd put Garcon />Tate and I feel Edelman />Collie. So, really, how thin is this WR corps here? Note how Jeff Saturday just had surgery and is rehabbing, but where is the media on this? Wouldn't that be a possible problem for Manning? I think it would. Ugoh has been moved to Guard. That's a new position for him. Note how when Kazcur moves inside, gets hurt, etc, it's a gloom and doom media sensation. When a draft bust by Polian like Ugoh moves inside, there is no real mention of it. And I am not even mentioning the O Line in general for Indy that seems to have some serious problems. Didn't Howard Mudd retire, too??? I'll keep saying this until I am proven wrong, but NE is held to a different standard because of an agenda the media has created against NE. This is a constant thing. Another example is the Brady and Manning contracts. If you were a casual NFL fan, you'd think ONLY Bob Kraft is being "cheap" and looking to trade Brady, not Irsay and the Colts. And, I don't care if Irsay said he wants Manning to be the highest paid QB. Kraft says he wants Brady to retire a Patriot and the media ignores it and creates more lies. It's incredible. Another example right there. It's one thing to be critical, but to leave out contexts and facts on purpose proves there is an agenda.
Posted by russgriswold[/QUOTE]
First - you said exactly what I think King might have been saying. Name your proven pass catchers (I said WR but TE's should be included). I've got three and I am not including Crumpler. Brady Moss Edelman. Who else is proven?
The colts were in a similar situation last year with the loss of Harrison (not a big loss as he had declined big time in 2 years) and then gonzalez in the first game. And the colts were picked by many to actually miss the playoffs last year. Thankfully, Garcon and Collie stepped up, but no one knew they would. You may be right, there may be pass catching depth by bodies, but not proven pass catching depth. That does not mean they won't prove themselves, but they haven't yet.
As for media attention - 1) you pay more attention to the media comments about the pats. There are comments made about the colts. I just assume you don't look for them as thoroughly. 2) is the attention on Indy as bright as it is for NE? Probably not. Indy is a small market team. You'd think with them in the SB last year you'd hear more about them, but you don't. I attribute some of that to the market. 3) I think the colts are boring for the media. You don't get much from the colts. Jim Caldwell may be a worse quote than Belichick, not because he is trying to hide more, but because he is so cliche.
NE is not held to a different standard, they are simply a bigger market (top 10), and they've had more questions/stories over the past 3 years than the colts. 08 - overcoming SB loss after undefeated RS. 09- Brady comeback, seymour trade. 10- horrible playoff loss, defensive questions, Mankins holdout.
So do think Silver was lying when he wrote that article about Brady being upset?