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    pretty good 53

    NEPD Editor: James Christensen

    Two down, two to go.

    With two preseason games remaining, the Patriots roster is starting to take shape. Here is my latest stab at the 53-man roster come week one versus the Buffalo Bills.

    Quarterback (3): Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett, Tim Tebow

    Tim Tebow has done little to warrant this roster spot, but I doubt that McDaniels and Belichick installed an entire shadow offense just to cut a guy a few weeks later.

    Running Back (5): Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Leon Washington, LeGarrette Blount, Brandon Bolden, George Winn

    This group will probably get cut down to four due to an injury sometime during the preseason, but each of the five players have had flashes in the first two games. If someone does get cut, I think it is Brandon Bolden – despite what he offers on special teams.

    Wide Receiver (6): Aaron Dobson, Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, Josh Boyce, Kenbrell Thompkins,Matthew Slater

    There is a lot of youth here, which is a good thing. This group is also markedly bigger than the receivers that Tom Brady has been throwing to over the last couple of years. If an injury occurs, Kamar Aiken would be the next guy in.

    Tight End (3): Michael Hoomanawanui, Zach Sudfeld, Daniel Fells Jake Ballard

    Even if he could be ready by week three, I’d like to put Rob Gronkowski on PUP to start the season. The Patriots want a healthy Gronk in week 20, not week 12. Daniel Fells and Jake Ballard could both be surprise cuts if the numbers game hits the TE position. I’m going with a chance that Ballard suffers a “setback” and gets placed on the short term IR.

    Offensive Tackle (3): Nate Solder, Sebastian Vollmer, Will Svitek, Markus Zusevics

    Vollmer and Solder have the starting spots locked up. Marcus Cannon can play a little tackle and Svitek should have the swing position well in hand. Zusevics hasn’t looked NFL ready in practice and will be best suited to a year on the practice squad.

    Guard (3): Logan Mankins, Dan Connolly, Marcus Cannon

    Unless injuries continue to be a problem, these three guards will make the team. Another swing interior lineman is a possibility, but having Kline (C/G), Cannon (G/T) and Svitek (G/T) gives the plenty of flexibility.

    Center (2): Ryan Wendell, Josh Kline

    Wendell has this job sewn up. Josh Kline, with his ability to play all over the line, could be the guy to get the call as Wendell’s backup, although Stanky from Penn State is giving him a run for his money.

    Defensive Tackle (3): Vince Wilfork, Tommy Kelly, Marcus Forston, Anthony Reshad White, Cory Grissom, Joe Vellano

    This group scares me a bit, as I thought that Armond Armstead would be ready to provide some snaps. In his absence, Tommy Kelly has looked very impressive and Marcus Forston has had some flashes of potential. The three cuts here would all be good practice squad pickups. If the Patriots don’t expect Armstead to be available soon, they may need to keep four DT’s.

    Defensive End (6): Chandler Jones, Rob Ninkovich, Justin Francis, Michael Buchanan, Marcus Benard, Jermaine Cunningham, Jake Bequette

    I hate to bring up the name Shawn Crable, but I’ve got to do it. I wasn’t a fan of the Bequette selection and he hasn’t lived up to his third round billing so far. He has had some streaks of brilliance, but his tackling and consistency just isn’t there. Jermaine Cunningham hasn’t been great himself, but his ability to come inside and rush from the DT position gives him the edge. Either Cunningham or Bequette isn’t making this team.

    Linebacker (6): Jerod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Dont’a Hightower, Jamie Collins, Dane Fletcher, Steve Beauharnais, Niko Koutovides, Mike Rivera, Jeff Tarpinian

    This linebacking corps has the potential to be a dominant force. If Collins continues to improve, he will join the triumvirate of 51, 54 and 55 in making plays for the Patriots. Dane Fletcher is a core special teams player and has proven that he can make a play at linebacker as well. I think Niko and Beauharnais are fighting it out for the last spot.

    Cornerback (5): Aqib Talib, Alfonzo Dennard, Ras-I Dowling, Kyle Arrington, Logan Ryan, Marquice Cole

    If Ras-I Dowling doesn’t get his head on and out of the training room, Marquice Cole is going to make this team. The rest of this group has looked average to good during camp and preseason and shouldn’t be the sieve that is has been over the last few years.

    Safety (5): Devin McCourty, Tavon Wilson, Duron Harmon, Adrian Wilson, Steve Gregory, Nate Ebner

    This is a tough decision. Nate Ebner has potential and special teams value. Steve Gregory has experience and consistency, but also has a bigger contract. If the Wilsons and Harmon can step up, it might make Gregory expendable, but I’d like to keep him around – especially with McCourty still knicked up.

    Specialist (3): Stephen Gostkowski, Zoltan Mesko, Danny Aiken, Ryan Allen

    Mesko and Allen’s competition has been fierce all through camp, but I think Mesko eeks out a victory based on experience and holding. I will not listen to people calling for Gostkowski’s head after missing a couple of preseason field goals.

    PUP / NFI: Rob Gronkowski, Armond Armstead

    IR: T.J. Moe, Brandon Ford

     
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    Re: pretty good 53

    I completely disagree on Tebow (yes I know it's not your 53 man list). The only thing he can do is run the option. They didn't install a completely new offense because nether Brady nor Mallett nor the 1st and 2nd stringers are running the option. It's most of the 3rd and 4th stringers who most likely won't make the team anyways. I just enjoy people saying that he's god awful yet he's going to make the team because they installed an option for preseason even though he's awful at it. It's like owning a gremlin and saying well you have to drive it because someone put in a knockoff $35 turbo from China into it. 

    You have to admit it's weird logic that he's so bad that it's why he makes the team


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    yes, it is not my list. I actually think they do not keep TT. I also think they bring on another DL and OL men off the wire if some one is there.

    I also am starting to wonder about Washington. I was suspect at signing...but he won me over in camp with his speed and his smart decisions when returning. now I am not so sure

    also have repeated comment that I feel AWilson is on the fence....

    I love to options the PAts have, and assuming health I still envision 10-12 wins...

     
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    yes, it is not my list. I actually think they do not keep TT. I also think they bring on another DL and OL men off the wire if some one is there.

    I also am starting to wonder about Washington. I was suspect at signing...but he won me over in camp with his speed and his smart decisions when returning. now I am not so sure

    also have repeated comment that I feel AWilson is on the fence....

    I love to options the PAts have, and assuming health I still envision 10-12 wins...



    I can't see A Wilson not making the team honestly. I can see him on the fence but T Wilson has been so bad of the 2 Wilsons I'd take A Wilson over T Wilson but I'm not sure both will be on this team, which is sad since one was a 2nd round pick and the other a lot of people around he was proclaiming to be the next Rodney and an instant starter

     
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    yes, it is not my list. I actually think they do not keep TT. I also think they bring on another DL and OL men off the wire if some one is there.

    I also am starting to wonder about Washington. I was suspect at signing...but he won me over in camp with his speed and his smart decisions when returning. now I am not so sure

    also have repeated comment that I feel AWilson is on the fence....

    I love to options the PAts have, and assuming health I still envision 10-12 wins...

     



    I can't see A Wilson not making the team honestly. I can see him on the fence but T Wilson has been so bad of the 2 Wilsons I'd take A Wilson over T Wilson but I'm not sure both will be on this team, which is sad since one was a 2nd round pick and the other a lot of people around he was proclaiming to be the next Rodney and an instant starter

     

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    Which Wilson is the better player and on the field more in December, not September? TWilson is getting beat in coverage. But he is a sure tackler, creates turnovers and plays special teams. Ditti AWilson. Lets face it. Today is the best A Wilson is going to be. Age and wesr will cause some regression. I still feel TWilson has upside. Question is only when does he realize his upside?

     
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    yes, it is not my list. I actually think they do not keep TT. I also think they bring on another DL and OL men off the wire if some one is there.

    I also am starting to wonder about Washington. I was suspect at signing...but he won me over in camp with his speed and his smart decisions when returning. now I am not so sure

    also have repeated comment that I feel AWilson is on the fence....

    I love to options the PAts have, and assuming health I still envision 10-12 wins...

     

     



    I can't see A Wilson not making the team honestly. I can see him on the fence but T Wilson has been so bad of the 2 Wilsons I'd take A Wilson over T Wilson but I'm not sure both will be on this team, which is sad since one was a 2nd round pick and the other a lot of people around he was proclaiming to be the next Rodney and an instant starter

     

     

     

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    Which Wilson is the better player and on the field more in December, not September? TWilson is getting beat in coverage. But he is a sure tackler, creates turnovers and plays special teams. Ditti AWilson. Lets face it. Today is the best A Wilson is going to be. Age and wesr will cause some regression. I still feel TWilson has upside. Question is only when does he realize his upside?

     

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    I'm not sure if it's a when so much as a if

     
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    Re: pretty good 53

    Since we are talking 53 man Roster, here is mine as of today.....

    QB (3) Brady, Mallett, Tebow
    RB (5) Ridley, Vereen, Bolden, Blount, Washington
    WR (6) Amendola, Thompkins, Dobson, Boyce, Edelman, Slater
    TE (4) Gronkowski, Sudfeld, Ballard, Fells
    C (1) Wendell
    G (3) Mankins, Connolly, Cannon
    T (3) Vollmer, Solder, Svitek
    DE (5) Ninkovich, Jones, Francis, Benard, Buchanan
    DT (3) Wilfork, Forston, Kelly
    ILB(3) Spikes, Fletcher, Beauharnais (Beauharnais due to special teams)
    OLB(3) Mayo, Hightower, Collins
    CB (5) Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Dowling, Ryan
    S (6) McCourty, Gregory, Wilson, Wilson, Harmon, Ebner
    ST (3) Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

    PUP Armstead

    Total players: 53

    BTW, I have not heard a whole lot of Mark Harrison, he is a tall receiver that I thought I read he hurt his foot.  Could he also end up on the PUP list?

    If Tebow is gone then add Zusevics, I have always like Cunningham but I dont' see him making the 53.  Went back and forth between Dowling and Coles.  As of right now for some reason I am not yet ready to throw in the towel on Dowling despit me saying so last week.  But I just think Coles is horrible so decided to keep Dowling and my fingers crossed he can get healthy for the season.

    Flame away on my projection!

     

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