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In response to rkarp's comment:
the trade was not Patterson for draft choices. The trade was the #29 pick for the draft choices.The question is who could the Pats have selected with that pick, not if will Patterson be better than the Pats choices.
Lets see how the players pan out....
To say there was a "fleecing" is idiotic
No, it's not. The best part of the draft was Rds 2-5. Minny trade UP and out of the best part of the draft.
So, you're wrong. They were fleeced. They also ALREADY had TWO picks in the first rd, so trading into it for a 3rd pick was completely moronic and a knee jerk deluxe move.
That's why they are the Vikings. They live in shadow of the Packers, so they do trendy, newsworthy moves to get people excited as they look to build a new stadium.
They also put out new uniforms. Their moves are more so rooted in flash and excitement. Greg Jennings also just took them to the cleaners with that contract becaue Jennings knows he had leverage based on the Vikings reputation. The move was strategically idotic and Jetsesque.
YOU LOSE, RKrap.
Im gonna disagree with you on this one. Did the Vikings really lose when they took 3 guys they really wanted before someone else swooped in to take them? I understand that the meat of the draft were from 2-5 or what have you but they essentially got the guys they want? They still had 6 picks after. Only so many players are going to make the team so if you had as many draft picks as they did, you may as well trade them into the future or use some to move up and grab the guy you want. I think it was a good move for them.
But, even if they got who they wanted, which I agree they clearly did, they aren't in the driver's seat right now for a SB appearance. GB is ahead of them and Detroit is still a threat, not to mention Chicago. It's bascially GB and then those 3 teams looking at a wild card.
My contention is, they aren't a SB contender right now, but they have to sell it to their fans that that they are for the reason. Adrian Peterson is one more hand off away for Ponder to have to morph into an elite QB, which is unlikely.
Don't look now, but the Vikes are using the Jets approach from 2008-2012. You have to be patient and build your base first, before pretending your 1-2 moves away from putting your team over the top.
I fully realize all 3 of their picks, but this was not the draft to be trading up in, unless your a team like SF (they did trade up) who knocking on the door right now and had a ton of picks anyway.
So, maybe fleece is the wrong word here. Minny was dumb to do that and thank you to the Vikes yet again for helping us in a trade likely winning the trade again.
We won it with the Moss trade which turned into a 3rd rder in 2011 (Ridley) and here we are again with Ryan, Harmon, Boyce and Blount. I think that is the yield.
So, Patterson has to pretty much be better for that team than what these players are for ours in the future. Boyce is a better pure WR on paper alone, so I like the odds.
We will see, but considering Patterson is as dumb as a bag of rocks, a reach, and they have a questionable QB situation, I like our odds.
Minny isn't really ready to ascend in the NFC. Maybe in 2-3 years if Ponder improves.
Any team that isn't an elite team right now, retooling or completely rebuilding, should have been trading back, not up.