Re: Red Bryant to be released....value comes into play.
posted at 2/24/2014 11:43 AM EST
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to TrueChamp's comment:
So the Hawks spent 35 million to keep this guy in seattle basically blocking him from coming to N.E but he played 30% of the snaps last year and barely played in the super bowl. It made little sense for us to spend anywhere near that kind of money for a situational run stuffer when we already had a better version as a 3 down run stuffer in VW, so I am glad seattle over payed. Now that he will be released and VW and Kelly are injured I could see a team friendly deal for Red to come man the middle. I wouldn't be competitive with his salary though as he might get a few hits from teams weak against the run.
When Alex Marvez of Fox Sports tweeted Sunday night that the Seattle Seahawks are expected to releasedefensive lineman Red Bryant, it served as a reminder that the Patriots had interest in Bryant as a free agent prior to the 2012 season.
Bryant resisted a strong recruiting effort from Bill Belichick to re-sign with Seattle.
"The Patriots were interested and I definitely was listening. I thought it was a great opportunity for me, and the likelihood of me going there was high," Bryant said in October of 2012 after inking a five-year deal with a reported maximum value of $35 million, adding that family considerations were also part of keeping him in the Pacific Northwest.
After failing to land Bryant, the Patriots wound up signing former Bengals defensive tackleJonathan Fanene, which didn't work out.
At 6-foot-4 and 323 pounds, Bryant would project to a defensive tackle role in the Patriots' scheme. The team has veterans Vince Wilfork and Tommy Kelly atop the depth chart, with Armond Armstead, Chris Jones,Sealver Siliga and Joe Vellano also at the position.
Whether or not the Patriots would have the same level of interest in Bryant now as they did two years ago is unclear, but it's something to keep on the radar. The market almost certainly wouldn't be at the same level it was in 2012.
If the Patriots do pursue Bryant, it makes sense to think they might be competing against a team like theJacksonville Jaguars, which has former Seahawks defensive coordinator Gus Bradley in his second year as head coach.
Actually they didn't. His base for the final 3 years was $17.5mil and there was a $3mil roster bonus which they now won't have to pay. So in total they only paid $14.6mil not $35mil and they got fairly good production for that $14.6mil. Certainly more production than what the Pats paid Fanene to sit on the couch. But, then again he was ranked as one of the best run stuffers in the league the last 2 years and it's not like the Pats had a bad run D or anything this year.
BTW his dead money $3mil less than what Llyod's was this year, so his huge contract cost as much as Lloyds did to get out of in the end.
He got 14.9 mill guaranteed and made it in 2 seasons, what did Lloyd get? Lloyd played 75% of the snaps his last year, Bryant played 30%. on top of that Red didn't give us a choice as he never got on the plane to come for a visit as seattle knowingly over paid for a part time player.
7.5 million a year for 2 years and plays 30% of the snaps, had 30 tackles and a sack. So don't try and paint a picture that BB chose Fanene over Bryant in order to be cheap or something, Fanene was a fall back plan...a good one, and would have been a more realistic fit for 3 million per and a guy who played the run and got after the QB with interior pressure...you know, like we all want?!?!
Condemning the Fanene signing is another that can only be made in hindsight..., unless you think BB and his staff after 30 years of player evaluation forgot how to check a players past and just ignored concrete evidence that he was addicted to pain killers? Or the concrete evidence that Hern would become a murderer, like Ozzie ignored the concrete evidence that Ray Lewis was a murderer and his little brother Ray Rice was a wife beater, or their wr who just got arrested was a pot head!?!?! Gasp...