Re: Redskins Are Insane!
posted at 1/7/2013 5:34 PM EST
In response to kevin13130's comment:
In response to TexasPat's comment:
In response to kevin13130's comment:
I live just outside DC, and I was watching the game at a sports bar with all the Redskins fans. No one was complaining about RG3 playing until the 3rd quarter or so. Some fans did start pulling for Kirk Cousins around the 3rd quarter when RG3 couldn't get the offense going, but most felt Griffin could play.
RESPONSE: They want to see the 'Skins win. They are starved for playoff success. But, any objective person watching that game could see that RG III was no where near 100%. Did the Redskins win with RG III at 50%? Wouldn't they have had a better shot at winning going with a healthy Cousins, after gaining a 14-0 lead?
I will say that a lot of fans groaned when they saw Griffin's injury on that fumble. That's a tough way to lose a playoff game. I'm sure most Skins fans would've pulled RG3 in retrospect (if they knew that he'd get injured and that the Skins would lose), but in that moment, when they were down 7 points, most fans were ready for Griffin to lead the team down the field and get the touchdown.
RESPONSE: That's why they're fans, and not running the team. RG III is "The Franchise". He cost the 'Skins three #1 picks, plus. He turned the team into a division winner in one season. Why risk his career?
Point is, it's easy to criticize someone else's decisions when it's not your playoff hopes on the line. You gotta know, this was the first Redskins home playoff game since 1999, so this was like the Super Bowl to the DC area. Even most Redskins fans, who are all-in on the RG3 as franchise QB thing, were happy to let him play and risk his well-being.
RESPONSE: Then, with all due respect, they're idiots. Again, that's why they're fans, and are not in charge of running the team. Sorry, but having seen him hobble around attempting to play, it shouldn't have been that difficult a decision.
I understand the point of protecting the Franchise, but I'm not sure this was as clear as you're making it out to be. RG3 was clearly hobbled, yes. But you saw him running options and scrambling around. He was healthy enough to sprint around, and he had a knee brace. He had a limp but he could throw the ball fine, and if your franchise QB is healthy enough to play in the "Super Bowl" (of DC sports), then you play him.
RESPONSE: It was those plays that made it evident that he couldn't run. It was like watching a guy advance in a potato sack race. The pay before he threw a TD pass that put his team up, 14-0, he clearly re-aggrevated his injury. He should have been yanked at that point. This isn't hindsight on my part. I was calling for him to be lifted, amongst my friends, while watching the game. The guy was clearly impaired at that point.
If Brady's left shoulder were hurt, but he could throw OK. You'd play him in a playoff game, wouldn't you?
RESPONSE: Not if the injury was career threatening. Brady is not a QB whose main asset is his mobility. Besides, there's a huge difference between a left shoulder injury, and a bum right knee. A bad knee effects a QB's ability to plant, and throw...as we saw yesterday.
I know these Skins fans are just that: fans. But they want what's best for the franchise as much as the coach does. If they saw that playing RG3 was risking his future by playing, they would've been grumbling for Kirk Cousins to step in. This is football, injuries occur and they occur unexpectedly. If not for the fumbled snap, RG3 could've very well made it through the game in one piece. On the other hand, RG3 could've hurt himself on that botched play even if he were 100% healthy. It's not fair to judge injuries in retrospect.
RESPONSE: Please!! It was obvious to anyone with a pulse that Griffin was badly impaired. I suspect that there was some "In Shanny, We Trust" going on amongst the fans.
To be fair, I don't think Shanahan helped out RG3 at all by calling so many passing plays and play-action passing plays. They could've ran the ball with Alfred Morris a lot more when they were up 14 points. Morris was getting good yardage every time, and it's a shame they went away from that. But I can't fault Shanahan for starting his franchise QB, and neither do the Redskins fans who love and care about RG3.
RESPONSE: I can, and do: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8820196/bill-barnwell-weekend-wild-card-games