Religion And Football - Let this Thread Die out please - thanks

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    Religion is the root of all the problems in this world-- always has been, always will be.
     
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    "Religion is the root of all the problems in this world-- always has been, always will be" NEGAME
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    Is it the religion - or is it a small minority of each sect that causes the problem? It's just my opinion that 95% of philosophies and religions say pretty much the same thing - it's the 5% of the differences that people go to war over....
     
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    Sad part is Tebow will probably get much more grief for a moral stand, than the Chris Henry's and Ray Lewis's types in the NFL

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from EnochRoot. Show EnochRoot's posts

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    I think they should have an opposing ad of a convicted child molester with his mother on the opposite side of the glass during visiting day - she can say she wanted an abortion in 1966 but it wasn't legal and this is what happened.

    Also, the child molester needs to have a greasy comb-over, wear glasses and must, I mean must, use all three names but only one of them needs to be "Ray".
     
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    I  wonder what Tebow will do when he can't promote the bible under his eyes. probably  as difficult as trying to take the snap under center.

    Now that is funny.

    Edit: Religion is the root of all the problems in this world-- always has been, always will be.

    I hate to be one of those guys who likes you for your picture, but is it possible to objectify someone for their philosophy? If so, then count me in.
     
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    The irony about the controversy is this.

    Pro-Abortion people, because that's what they are, like to call themselves Pro-Choice. However, they're criticizing the ad, which is about a woman celebrating the choice she made. If they really are Pro-Choice, then why do the critics care about what choice she made? If they really are Pro-Choice, they would be celebrating too that she had a choice to make. Just because she didn't choose abortion shouldn't matter.
     
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      I don't take religious instruction from football players.
     
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    "Religion is the root of all the problems in this world-- always has been, always will be. "

     Americas founding fathers would agree with you completly.
     
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    "Religion is the root of all the problems in this world-- always has been, always will be" ~NEGAME
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    "Is it the religion - or is it a small minority of each sect that causes the problem? It's just my opinion that 95% of philosophies and religions say pretty much the same thing - it's the 5% of the differences that people go to war over....". ~Bubba

    To ALL:

    Yeats once said, "The Worst are filled with passionate intensity, The Best lack all conviction."  Yet, now that I think of it...Yeats was half understood by myself.  I had always upheld that those with this "Passionate Intensity" believe in their righteous causes, while those "Lacking ALL Conviction" see the world as so hazy-colored that that all sides are equal.  But Yeats was refering to more I know now...  It's O.k. to have that Passionate Intensity, UNLESS-It Largely Can Affect Others in some negative fashion and sadly-those with the VERY MOST Passionate Intensity, usually do Kill, Maim or Harm in some way In the Name of Their Beliefs.

    ~Bubba, I believe the greater point here that NEGAME and Many are alluding to, Is that Organized Religion, unlike a mere Set Philosophy and it's principles and tenets, CAN and DO massively affect ALL People, because Their Followers Run The Show.  Politicians endorsed by the Massive Vote of the Religious Right, Their Campaign financed by Organized Religion's Money, That Politician's Politics swayed by organizations, corporations, and even larger race groups and genders (see-White Male) that have MORE Money to shell out and thus those people's/group's etc.'s Larger Organized Religion(s)...  Money supports Money and those in charge would like to stay in charge and this becomes an insanely endless cycle (see-Politician's Votes swayed for Election THEN Re-election Campaigns/see-The greatest ionization of wealth EVER in this nation right Now-smaller few holding much more assets)...

    ALL this means that It's NOT very GOOD SENSE, shelling out some of their dollars in order to even sadly make someone that doesn't have the $ and isn't in power -HEALTHIER-i.e.national healthcare, thus giving them better oportunities to make the money and power -let alone spending some money on things like: job training or even businesses that create good jobs for people when the stock-market, even when bad, can guarentee 1/8% interest more and DOES NOT create Jobs for those that need them and thus again...see-better opportunities to take $ and Power...

    of note: PatsFan1966 and ALL...hope you recognized my sarcasm and read through my Entire First Post.  I'm as liberal as they come (obviously)...
    ON Most All Things...

    of final note: ...except about tatoos on women (a no-no)  I mean, t's O.k. that I have either 8 or 9, but not alright on women.  Gotta understand the philosophy: Men are suppossed to be big, brutish, vulgar, and have tribal war ink on their bodies and we spit and we're pigs, Woman upholds in my ideal a purer form, archetype, and ideal (perhaps one day I can abandon this porcelain ideal the way I've recently accepted that women go to the bathroom...just not right now).
     
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    "Pro-Abortion people, because that's what they are, like to call themselves Pro-Choice. However, they're criticizing the ad, which is about a woman celebrating the choice she made. If they really are Pro-Choice, then why do the critics care about what choice she made? If they really are Pro-Choice, they would be celebrating too that she had a choice to make. Just because she didn't choose abortion shouldn't matter." RoyF19
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    Sorta have to disagree with you there.  I think there is a HUGE difference between someone who is pro-abortion, someone who is pro-choice, and someone who is pro-life. The political analogy is extreme liberals, independents, and extreme right-wingers. You imply that those who are pro-choice really means that  they are for abortion for every circumstance and for all people - and that is NOT the case. In my opinion, since it's a woman's body - she should have the choice to decide whether to keep the baby or have a safe abortion. What that decision ultimately is - is okay by me; regardless of the outcome.

     
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    The way I see it, if you don't want to hear his message or see the commercial change the channel simple.  Last checked there's still freedom of speech and religion in this country.  He talks and does it based on his believes as does everyone else.

    Chad Ochocinco has a anoy everyone believe and he does it freely better than anyone so I don't think Tebow should be told not to share what is such a drive in his life. 

    I don't have a problem with it, if someone does change the channel that simple.
     
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    What worries me about religion in that it teaches people to be satisfied with not understanding.

     
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    I always get a laugh out of professional football players and Jesus. In a sport that is highlighted by greed and violence they thank a socialist pacifist for their skills. It's like the people who fall all over themselves thanking God for the 'miracle' of the one child pulled from the earthquake rubble when according to their beliefs God caused the earthquake in the first place that killed the 20,000 other innocent children.

    As for the 'pro life' crowd. Since they support the death penalty and war and oppose health care and other aid for the poor I'm not sure how they can call themselves pro life. Basically their concern for life ends with the first breath. Bottom line is most are hypocrites.
     
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    "As for the 'pro life' crowd. Since they support the death penalty and war and oppose health care and other aid for the poor I'm not sure how they can call themselves pro life. Basically their concern for life ends with the first breath. Bottom line is most are hypocrites. " Evil2010
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    couldn't help but chuckle.
     
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    "It's like the people who fall all over themselves thanking God for the 'miracle' of the one child pulled from the earthquake rubble when according to their beliefs God caused the earthquake in the first place that killed the 20,000 other innocent children."

    Thanks. I've been saying this for years. Usually, about tornado survivors. I'm glad I'm not the only one spitting into the wind. 
     
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    First -- religion isn't the problem; zealots are the problem.

    As to abortion, most of the people I know who oppose legalized abortion do so based on the argument that abortion should not be considered a convenient method of birth control. When I suggest to people who don't want to have children that they shouldn't be having sex, they look at me like I'm crazy, and I may well be . . .  but I'm not crazy enough to believe all this nonsense about a "woman having the right to choose what she does with her own body." If she's knocked up, then hasn't she already chosen what she wants to do with her body? Personally, I don't believe making it easier for people to avoid the consequences of their actions is a direction we should be taking. Of course, I'm also not a woman and the "principle" of the argument affects me peripherally at best, so I'm also not crazy enough to believe that my opinion makes a great deal of difference in the debate.
     
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    STP43  If you think all wars are fought to combat evil you need to open your eyes. Most wars are fought for territory, resources and control of populations. Evil is in the eye of the beholder. As for the death penalty....it goes against the teachings of Jesus as does greed so if people want to suport these things they need to find a new God to wave around as their excuse.

    Besides the first goal of any religion is to preserve itself and all doctrine is quickly put aside when it comes to preserving the staus quo
     
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    There's a long history of football and Jesus.  Certain evangelical groups spend an amazing amount of effort recruiting football players to praise Jesus when they win and zip it when they lose.  The evangelicals figure that it's free publicity when a sports hero says he won because of Jesus. 

    First problem:  why would Jesus let one of the two teams lose?  Aren't there any Christians on the losing team too?

    Second problem:  in a world of unparalleled technological riches we have set the world up so that billions of starving kids work their tails off to make stuff for us.  (maybe NFL apparel?)  Based on a reading of the Gospels, wouldn't Jesus care more about war, poverty and child slavery than winning football games?  Does football PR debase Christianity?

    Anyhow, the political ad is about abortion.  How come antiwar ads were banned by the network in previous Super Bowls?  Didn't the Prince of Peace stand squarely against war?
     
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    I am not interested in hearing any message from Tebow about abortion so I will gladly mute when he comes on with his prostelytizing message. I cringe whenever I see athletes interviewed and they thank "the lord JC" and all that other hooey. Keep you religious beliefs to yourself.
     
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    When Zach Johnson won the Masters, he said that he won because Jesus was following him around the course. Why doesn't Jesus therefore enable him to win every tournament? Why didn't Jesus follow Tiger and Phil and all the others? When Zach Johnson wins, are all the others condemned as dumb sinners or atheists? Brilliant, expert explanation requested ( other than simply saying that Zach Johnson is a dope ).
     
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    With 40 wars going on in the world, I think God has more to worry about than who wins a sporting event......l.
     
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    How about he's a devout dope? Personally I'd find it hard to concentrate on my swing if I knew some invisible being was stalking me.
     
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    With 40 wars going on in the world, I think God has more to worry about than who wins a sporting event......l.
     
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