Remember Earthwind Moreland

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    Remember Earthwind Moreland

    Remember the good old days when BB was labeled a genius because we were winning Super Bowls with nobodies Like Earthwind and old dudes like Otis Smith and even Tyrone Poole as DB's.

    Looking back at last night, the Saints destroyed us with a couple of street corner DB's.  See where I'm going?  They beat us in spite of the DB's.  They beat us with a relentless pass rush that got in Brady's head and had him running for his life most of last night.

    There was one constant during the Super Bowl Years, the LB corp.
    Willie Mcginest, Ted Johnson, Teddy Bruschi and Mike Vrabe.  With Vrabel being the only BB acquisition.  These guys stuffed the run and Terrorized QB on every drop back.

    Maybe BB was never the genius he was made out to be.  Maybe a great pass rush is all it took to mask an Earthwin Moreland.

     
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    [QUOTE]Remember the good old days when BB was labeled a genius because we were winning Super Bowls with nobodies Like Earthwind and old dudes like Otis Smith and even Tyrone Poole as DB's. Looking back at last night, the Saints destroyed us with a couple of street corner DB's.  See where I'm going?  They beat us in spite of the DB's.  They beat us with a relentless pass rush that got in Brady's head and had him running for his life most of last night. There was one constant during the Super Bowl Years, the LB corp. Willie Mcginest, Ted Johnson, Teddy Bruschi and Mike Vrabe.  With Vrabel being the only BB acquisition.  These guys stuffed the run and Terrorized QB on every drop back. Maybe BB was never the genius he was made out to be.  Maybe a great pass rush is all it took to mask an Earthwin Moreland.
    Posted by K-max[/QUOTE]

    Players blew assignments last night in coverage.

    It's tough to rush the passer when Brees is able to find open receivers in under 3 seconds.

    Jarvis Green was frequently just breaking into the backfield as Brees threw the ball.  This one falls on the d-backs to give Green, Banta-Cain, and company enough time to get there.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Remember Earthwind Moreland : Players blew assignments last night in coverage. It's tough to rush the passer when Brees is able to find open receivers in under 3 seconds. Jarvis Green was frequently just breaking into the backfield as Brees threw the ball.  This one falls on the d-backs to give Green, Banta-Cain, and company enough time to get there.
    Posted by NickC1188[/QUOTE]

    Was the problem Scheme or Talent?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Remember Earthwind Moreland : Was the problem Scheme or Talent?
    Posted by K-max[/QUOTE]

    Execution.

    Merriweather played particularly poorly.  Is he talented?  Yes.  Were plays called where he would have been in position to break up deep passes if he didn't bite on underneath routes?  Yes.

    The talent is there.  The plays on defense were called.  The players just messed up and didn't do their jobs.  They'll learn - it sounds like they were pressing too hard and got in their own ways, which happens to younger players when they first encounter pressure situations.

    Peyton Manning once choked in the clutch because he didn't know how to handle the pressure.  Across sports, same applies for Alex Rodriguez and Kevin Garnett.  It also applies to the Red Sox team that won the World Series in 2004 after learning how to focus on playing their game under the brightest lights with their backs against the wall.  They got experience playing in pressure situations and adapted until they were comfortable enough to execute.  They were all talented, and they were all in positions to make positive contributions.

    Execution, execution, execution.

    If you want to go on a playcalling crusade, turn your attention to the offense.
     
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    It was the scheme of acquiring lesser talent and the talent of using a lesser scheme.


    IMHO>>>talent  Willie Mac, Ted J, Tedy B, Ty Law, Ted Washington, Roman P. are not walking through that door any time soon
     
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    Ummmmm Point here to be made:  We were doing fine UNTIL those two DBs came in.  May i remind you, those "streetcorner" DBs were Chris McAllister and Mike MacKenzie.  Pretty good guys by any standards.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Remember Earthwind Moreland : Was the problem Scheme or Talent?
    Posted by K-max[/QUOTE]

    If you don't believe me and don't have a TiVo to review what happened to the defense last night, read this:

    I could actually see the safety get sucked into jumping the Saints' out route on the post pattern to Meachem for the touchdown.  The TV people also pointed out that Brees looked off the Merriweather on the play to Henderson where he was wide open (the corner on him blitzed and Merriweather was the only guy deep in Cover 1).

    The talent is there, and it's learning how to perform under pressure and trust each other.  They'll only improve as the year continues.

    They didn't quit and they didn't start fighting on the sidelines.  That's what matters to me.  Come back to me when the locker room is broken and players seem unwilling to acknowledge and learn from their mistakes - that's when the situation will be uncorrectable.

    The mistakes on defense were very correctable.
     
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    [QUOTE]Remember the good old days when BB was labeled a genius because we were winning Super Bowls with nobodies Like Earthwind and old dudes like Otis Smith and even Tyrone Poole as DB's. Looking back at last night, the Saints destroyed us with a couple of street corner DB's.  See where I'm going?  They beat us in spite of the DB's.  They beat us with a relentless pass rush that got in Brady's head and had him running for his life most of last night. There was one constant during the Super Bowl Years, the LB corp. Willie Mcginest, Ted Johnson, Teddy Bruschi and Mike Vrabe.  With Vrabel being the only BB acquisition.  These guys stuffed the run and Terrorized QB on every drop back. Maybe BB was never the genius he was made out to be.  Maybe a great pass rush is all it took to mask an Earthwin Moreland.
    Posted by K-max[/QUOTE]look, i've been as harsh on bel as anyone else but we must not start ignoring the past because of the present. bel WAS a genius. he was able to do the earthwind and fire thing and take guys off the street because he was ahead of his time and the ONLY one doing it. now, others have caught up with him as his techniques and approach are widespread now. look at the ravens versus the steels. it was that ONLY bel would dare do stuff like go for it in non-emergency situations on 4th down around the 50 yard line. to keep up, others have adapted his mindset and in the case of a peyton, have even gone ahead of him thanks to also having the parcells pedigree. for this year, its too late. for next year, i would hope Bill would get more conventional in this arms race. perhaps more offensive firepower. perhaps a trade for steven jackson while also signing TO. no more of trying to outsmart everyone with low percentage approaches! outsmart them by outconventioning them!
     

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