RIP NELSON MANDELA..is OBAMA the new MANDELA?

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    Teddy Roosevelt's Republican Party is long gone.  

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    Just when you thought Rusty was being as stupid as he could possibly be, he does stupider.

    TR was so mainstream Republican that he ran on the Bull Moose Party ticket in 1912. LMAO@U You're a moron.

     
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    Your photo is far from among my favorites, and absolutely not on my hard drive. If it were I would have to being in a priest to exorcise it.

     

    Now go sleep it off.

     

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    He's wrong. The NAZIs hated Communists/Socialists. Hitler had them rounded up or murdered. These are facts that cannot be disputed.  

     

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    Of course they did moron. They were on opposite ends of the spectrum, but both were AUTHORITARIAN.

     

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    WHo cares if each was a dictator and led Totalitaran regimes as Fascists? That doesn't enter into the point of political party and philopsphy, dummy.

    Admit it, you're an idiot on this topic. Sadly. Shenanigan, who I know is a military person who I have a ton of respect for is also 100% wrong.

    PatsLifer is clearly a Tea Partier as are you, otherwise you wouldn't get so defensive as you make a fool of yourself.

    I remember when the Tea Party morons had that photo of Hitler, then Obama in the middle and then Lenin to the right. Those idiots can't even understand basic 20th Century history and they made fools of themselves putting Obama to the right of a right wing Hitler and Hitler to the left of Obama.

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    I am not a TP. I am chiming in because u are wrong Russ. The TP and Nazi party aren't even in the geography. That was my only point. For as much grief as you give babe, he is right here. tP are constitutionalists, the nazi are fascist. Big difference.

     
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    Well, folks, it looks another myth has been debunked. Babe scurried away, so did PatsLifey.

    Thanks for the help Mels Witt.

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    Anytime bro...Hi 5 dog!

     

     

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    lol

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    Stop high-pawing yourself melstwit.

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    Of course they did moron. They were on opposite ends of the spectrum, but both were AUTHORITARIAN.

     

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    WHo cares if each was a dictator and led Totalitaran regimes as Fascists? That doesn't enter into the point of political party and philopsphy, dummy.

    Admit it, you're an idiot on this topic. Sadly. Shenanigan, who I know is a military person who I have a ton of respect for is also 100% wrong.

    PatsLifer is clearly a Tea Partier as are you, otherwise you wouldn't get so defensive as you make a fool of yourself.

    I remember when the Tea Party morons had that photo of Hitler, then Obama in the middle and then Lenin to the right. Those idiots can't even understand basic 20th Century history and they made fools of themselves putting Obama to the right of a right wing Hitler and Hitler to the left of Obama.

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    I am not a TP. I am chiming in because u are wrong Russ. The TP and Nazi party aren't even in the geography. That was my only point. For as much grief as you give babe, he is right here. tP are constitutionalists, the nazi are fascist. Big difference.

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    The NAZI's told everyone they were "Nat'l Socialists"...what they were was something entirely different...the TP's use that "Strict Constitutionalsts" rag when they do TV interviews...ever been to a TP "rally"? Ever see an Obama pick that has him with a Hitler Moustache and a face painted like the Joker from the Batman movie? That's pure TP....they are facist scum, uneducated, racist scum who are led by the nose by Fox news and the Koch brothers who fund most of their operations....you know who the Koch Brothers dad was? The founder of the John Birch Society, a political group so extreme that William F Buckley Jr., no liberal he, said was too extreme to be involved in either the Repub. Party or American politics...

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    Definitely some facts sprinkled in here, but racist, fascist they are not. 

    Who funds the dem party? Soros, china, etc..are they any better?

    what about the repubs? Israel, military contractors, big oil ? 

    They are all rotten. I am not defending them, I am not one of them. I just wanted to point out some misconceptions purposely being spread my mainstream media and the 2 parties because they want to remain a 2 party system. Keeps the power to the knowns and concentrated. 

    Honestly,we  should be disgusted with all the politicians we have. 

     
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    So after all of this right wing left wing drivel about Hitler

    the difference between Stalin and Hitler was that in Stalins world no one but the state owned anything and in Hitlers world the State told and controlled what business did and both told individuals what to do. they both were atheists. Wow what a difference

     

    So when was the constitution between Stalin and Hitler? How?

    And just sayingHitlers party was named the National Socialit's party so parse your history anyway you want. there was virtually no difference between the two politically in results, and even their personal biographies. Oh yeah, they both killed millions of Jews. so what if Hitler and Stalin hated one another, The end result of their policies was exactly the same. they were just 2 sick male animals protecting their territory and really a lot less to do with politics

    So ohole is a hell of a lot closer to Hitler than the tea party is as ohole believes in telling everyone what to do and regulating everything that moves. TP is much more libertarian

    And speaking of oholes religion, his supposed sect is way outside mainstream Christianityhe believes in collective salvation, the rest of main stream Christianity believes in individual salvation , of course since black liberation theology was started by Somalian socialists that fits right in with his pathology

    and you can use any directional pathos you like, ohole is not anybody that should be president and the harm he is doing is incalculable. and incompetent to boot , please refer to obamacare

     
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    Finally, Obama is not a Socialist at all. He's a Progressive Democrat. There's a difference.  

     


    He might have run on a progressive platform, but actions speak louder than words.  He is not as progressive as his campaign would have you believe.  That is what makes the socialist accusations so hilarious.

     
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    Not to jump too deeply into this cesspool of a thread, but pcmIV is right.  The whole problem with Obamacare is not that it's a socialist program but that it tries too hard not to be socialist.  The biggest problem with Obamacare is that it continues to rely on for-profit health insurance companies to provide coverage for people who (let's be honest) don't have the money to pay for coverage.  The simple reality is that poor, sick people aren't profitable to cover and therefore will never adequately be served by for-profit insurers.  Ultimately, universal health care coverage can only be provided through some kind of social insurance program, welfare, or charity (call it what you like).  There's no way the private, for-profit insurance business will ever adequately cover unprofitable customers.  Like it or not, health care is something those of us who are more fortunate are going to have to fund for those less fortunate.  Unless, of course, we're okay with poor sick people simply being abandoned to suffer and die because they don't the money to pay for care.

     

     

     
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    TR was so mainstream Republican that he ran on the Bull Moose Party ticket in 1912. LMAO@U You're a moron.

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    Because all the work he put into keeping corruption at bay, had it hijacked by Taft as a puppet. Hence, why he formed the Progressive Bull Moose Party so he could run and keep the country back on the track he brilliantly created after the disastrous Guilded Age.

    What does that have to do with Roosevelt wanting to carry on Lincoln's party in his two terms in the early 1900s?

    I own easily 3-4 bios or Roosevelt, DVDs, etc, so forget trying to win this one, too, moron.

    You've been outdebated and it;s beyond clear you're out of your league, Diapers. ANother bludgeoning for you.  I have so many on you, I've lost count.

     

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    You lose you dum bass. You fashion it Teddy R's Republican Party, when in fact he was a Maverick Republican. You're hopelessly stupid.

    Try using Lincoln next time and you won't look like such an imbecile.

     

    Now go sleep it off, drunkard.

     
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    Since we linked Ghandi to Mandella,

     

    Ghandi was an incredible hypocrite, he wanted India to be free from British rule, but he thought British reign over Sub-Sahara Africa was justified due to them "being barely humans, shade above animals".

     

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    Where did you get this? Something like this needs some sort of evidence.

     
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         Goodness gracious sakes alive...is there anyplace left where a guy can get away from politics, and, particularly, Obama?

         I'm sure that there are plenty of political forums to discuss these matters to your hearts content. 



    The village imbecile Rusty had to be straightened out. He was calling the tea party near Nazis. Mental case.

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         But we already know that he's an imbecile. You're never going to sway, or, as you put it, "straighten out" a liberal. Put him on ignore, as I did months ago, and move on.

         

     
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    He's wrong. The NAZIs hated Communists/Socialists. Hitler had them rounded up or murdered. These are facts that cannot be disputed.  

     

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    Of course they did moron. They were on opposite ends of the spectrum, but both were AUTHORITARIAN.

     

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    WHo cares if each was a dictator and led Totalitaran regimes as Fascists? That doesn't enter into the point of political party and philopsphy, dummy.

    Admit it, you're an idiot on this topic. Sadly. Shenanigan, who I know is a military person who I have a ton of respect for is also 100% wrong.

    PatsLifer is clearly a Tea Partier as are you, otherwise you wouldn't get so defensive as you make a fool of yourself.

    I remember when the Tea Party morons had that photo of Hitler, then Obama in the middle and then Lenin to the right. Those idiots can't even understand basic 20th Century history and they made fools of themselves putting Obama to the right of a right wing Hitler and Hitler to the left of Obama.

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    I am not a TP. I am chiming in because u are wrong Russ. The TP and Nazi party aren't even in the geography. That was my only point. For as much grief as you give babe, he is right here. tP are constitutionalists, the nazi are fascist. Big difference.

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    False.  Hitler was a conservative, on the right. Go back one page and look at what I posted.  You're afraid to respond to it, and I can see why.

    Babe also dodged it, but responded and quoted all my other posts.

    As for my premise of the Tea Party being more conservative than the VERY conservative nature of the current Republican Party, it is factually correct and the truth.

    You don't have to agree with me that I feel it's a racist-tinged party, but I feel it is because it came into play when Obama was elected.  And yes, a traditional conservative Absolute Monarchy comes off more liberal and to the left of what the Tea PArty is.

    The Tea Party is filled with loonies or irrational thinking conservatives.

    It was formed by Republicans and they are apparently more conservative than the turds leading up the current Republican Party.  Hence, why they are one stop, to the right, away from the most conservative and extreme movement ever (the NAZIs).

     

     

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    I am not afraid to respond to any of your posts. I may have missed it.

    yes, the TP is more conservative than the current repubs because the repub party has shifted more left Over the last decade. It's all context. 

     
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    He's wrong. The NAZIs hated Communists/Socialists. Hitler had them rounded up or murdered. These are facts that cannot be disputed.  

     

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    Of course they did moron. They were on opposite ends of the spectrum, but both were AUTHORITARIAN.

     

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    WHo cares if each was a dictator and led Totalitaran regimes as Fascists? That doesn't enter into the point of political party and philopsphy, dummy.

    Admit it, you're an idiot on this topic. Sadly. Shenanigan, who I know is a military person who I have a ton of respect for is also 100% wrong.

    PatsLifer is clearly a Tea Partier as are you, otherwise you wouldn't get so defensive as you make a fool of yourself.

    I remember when the Tea Party morons had that photo of Hitler, then Obama in the middle and then Lenin to the right. Those idiots can't even understand basic 20th Century history and they made fools of themselves putting Obama to the right of a right wing Hitler and Hitler to the left of Obama.

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    I am not a TP. I am chiming in because u are wrong Russ. The TP and Nazi party aren't even in the geography. That was my only point. For as much grief as you give babe, he is right here. tP are constitutionalists, the nazi are fascist. Big difference.

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    The NAZI's told everyone they were "Nat'l Socialists"...what they were was something entirely different...the TP's use that "Strict Constitutionalsts" rag when they do TV interviews...ever been to a TP "rally"? Ever see an Obama pick that has him with a Hitler Moustache and a face painted like the Joker from the Batman movie? That's pure TP....they are facist scum, uneducated, racist scum who are led by the nose by Fox news and the Koch brothers who fund most of their operations....you know who the Koch Brothers dad was? The founder of the John Birch Society, a political group so extreme that William F Buckley Jr., no liberal he, said was too extreme to be involved in either the Repub. Party or American politics...

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    Definitely some facts sprinkled in here, but racist, fascist they are not. 

    Who funds the dem party? Soros, china, etc..are they any better?

    what about the repubs? Israel, military contractors, big oil ? 

    They are all rotten. I am not defending them, I am not one of them. I just wanted to point out some misconceptions purposely being spread my mainstream media and the 2 parties because they want to remain a 2 party system. Keeps the power to the knowns and concentrated. 

    Honestly,we  should be disgusted with all the politicians we have. 

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    No one is saying they are Fascist. You don't even know what it means.  Fascism was a term to describe Mussolini's emergence in the 1920s and his Totalitarianist regime. It doesn't mean anything other than beinig a dictator.  The term was coined as a way to desrcibe what Mussolini was doing in Italy in the 1920s, which was essentially putting a stop to Democracy.

    You could be a COmmunist like Stalin and be a Fascist.   Fascism has nothing with political party.

    Politically, Mussolini, Franco, Tojo/Hirohito, Hitler, etc, these guys were all buddies not only because they were all cuckoos, but because they had conservative, right wing philosophies.

    You can either learn these facts from someoen who knows a lot about history or you can be ignorant and come off brainwashed.

     

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    Yeah, okay. 

    PI was responding to what dimwit posted. I know the diff between lib and conserv, fascist and otherwise. 

     
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    He's wrong. The NAZIs hated Communists/Socialists. Hitler had them rounded up or murdered. These are facts that cannot be disputed.  

     

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    Of course they did moron. They were on opposite ends of the spectrum, but both were AUTHORITARIAN.

     

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    WHo cares if each was a dictator and led Totalitaran regimes as Fascists? That doesn't enter into the point of political party and philopsphy, dummy.

    Admit it, you're an idiot on this topic. Sadly. Shenanigan, who I know is a military person who I have a ton of respect for is also 100% wrong.

    PatsLifer is clearly a Tea Partier as are you, otherwise you wouldn't get so defensive as you make a fool of yourself.

    I remember when the Tea Party morons had that photo of Hitler, then Obama in the middle and then Lenin to the right. Those idiots can't even understand basic 20th Century history and they made fools of themselves putting Obama to the right of a right wing Hitler and Hitler to the left of Obama.

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    I am not a TP. I am chiming in because u are wrong Russ. The TP and Nazi party aren't even in the geography. That was my only point. For as much grief as you give babe, he is right here. tP are constitutionalists, the nazi are fascist. Big difference.

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    The NAZI's told everyone they were "Nat'l Socialists"...what they were was something entirely different...the TP's use that "Strict Constitutionalsts" rag when they do TV interviews...ever been to a TP "rally"? Ever see an Obama pick that has him with a Hitler Moustache and a face painted like the Joker from the Batman movie? That's pure TP....they are facist scum, uneducated, racist scum who are led by the nose by Fox news and the Koch brothers who fund most of their operations....you know who the Koch Brothers dad was? The founder of the John Birch Society, a political group so extreme that William F Buckley Jr., no liberal he, said was too extreme to be involved in either the Repub. Party or American politics...

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    Definitely some facts sprinkled in here, but racist, fascist they are not. 

    Who funds the dem party? Soros, china, etc..are they any better?

    what about the repubs? Israel, military contractors, big oil ? 

    They are all rotten. I am not defending them, I am not one of them. I just wanted to point out some misconceptions purposely being spread my mainstream media and the 2 parties because they want to remain a 2 party system. Keeps the power to the knowns and concentrated. 

    Honestly,we  should be disgusted with all the politicians we have. 

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    No one is saying they are Fascist. You don't even know what it means.  Fascism was a term to describe Mussolini's emergence in the 1920s and his Totalitarianist regime. It doesn't mean anything other than beinig a dictator.  The term was coined as a way to desrcibe what Mussolini was doing in Italy in the 1920s, which was essentially putting a stop to Democracy.

    You could be a COmmunist like Stalin and be a Fascist.   Fascism has nothing with political party.

    Politically, Mussolini, Franco, Tojo/Hirohito, Hitler, etc, these guys were all buddies not only because they were all cuckoos, but because they had conservative, right wing philosophies.

    You can either learn these facts from someoen who knows a lot about history or you can be ignorant and come off brainwashed.

     

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    Yeah, okay. 

    PI was responding to what dimwit posted. I know the diff between lib and conserv, fascist and otherwise. 

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         I tried to bury this thread with posts on any other matters. Guess I failed. Where are the Mods when you need them?

     

     
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    So after all of this right wing left wing dribble about Hitler

    the difference between Stalin and Hitler was that in Stalins world no one but the state owned anything and in Hitlers world the State told and controlled what business did and both told individuals what to do. they both were atheists. Wow what a difference

     

    So when was the constitution between Stalin and Hitler? How?

    And just sayingHitlers party was named the National Socialit's party so parse your history anyway you want. there was virtually no difference between the two politically in results, and even their personal biographies. Oh yeah, they both killed millions of Jews. so what if Hitler and Stalin hated one another, The end result of their policies was exactly the same. they were just 2 sick male animals protecting their territory and really a lot less to do with politics

    So ohole is a hell of a lot closer to Hitler than the tea party is as ohole believes in telling everyone what to do and regulating everything that moves. TP is much more libertarian

    And speaking of oholes religion, his supposed sect is way outside mainstream Christianityhe believes in collective salvation, the rest of main stream Christianity believes in individual salvation , of course since black liberation theology was started by Somalian socialists that fits right in with his pathology

    and you can use any directional pathos you like, ohole is not anybody that should be president and the harm he is doing is incalculable. and incompetent to boot , please refer to obamacare

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    No, what I underlined above is you playing semantics but saying the same thing. You're trying to come off intelligent on the topic and you're losing your edge. I like you, Seawolf, but you're wrong here.

    You're defensive because my premise about how extremely conservative the Tea Party is, aligns closely on the political spectrum with the most extreme conservative movement of all time, NAZIsm.

    Can you name one Soviet business from 1917-1991? No, neither can I.  Why? Communism. There was no Soviet corporations. I can't even name one now. Why? Because they're basically still Communist. Same with N.Korea or China.  Get it?

    Meanwhile, I can name  dozen high profile German corporations.  

    Hitler never managed German companies from his perch. Ever.  If anything his militaristic and industrial based policies made them even more wealthy than ever.

    The NAZIS were in no way Socialists. They had them murdered and arrested.  

    I posted numerous Hitler quotes on the page before this one to prove to you and the others that he hated Marxism/Socialism, too, but you aren't countering those. I know why.  

    Communism is nothing more than Socialism on steroids.  

    Why would Hitler align with all the other conservative dictators, and them with him, if he was  Socialist?

    That makes no sense. Hence, he wasn't a Socialist. How many times do I have to bludgeon your little group on this topic?

    I've just given you a free history lesson and broken down the differrences in these terms, which apparently confuse some Americans.

    YOu seem to be confusing the fact Stalin and HItler were dictators and crazy power loons, but you can't understand the differences between Capitalism flowing in full force in Germany under Hitler and Communism in the Soviet Union.

    Finally, Obama is not a Socialist at all. He's a Progressive Democrat. There's a difference.  

     

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    Even though I always disagree with you about Brady (who is great) you are right about Hitler and Communism. National Socialism and the Communists despised each other. In 1932 Germany everyone knew which party was left wing and which was right wing. The idea that Hitler was a left winger and his party was on the liberal end of the spectrum would be laughable if so many people had not died because of him. I don't want to re read this thread again (which I find infuriating) but if you said the Tea Party were neo nazi's you are wrong (if you did not say this and you are being mis quoted then I humbly apologize). While I may disagree with the tea party on most issues I have never considered them even remotely on that scale. A country benefits by having conservatives, moderates and liberals. The liberals of the 50's would be shocked by how many battles the liberals have won in this country since those days. The idea that the majority of people in my state support gay marriage is shocking to me. I never thought this would happen so fast. In the 80's people openly talked about putting AIDS patients on an island in the pacific and they weren't laughed at. America is getting better every year!

     

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