Rookie Free Agent Signings

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    Rookie Free Agent Signings

    I was looking for a thread with this info and couldnt find one so I made this and wanted to share. Hope I didnt miss somebodys already made thread.

     

    Confirmed Signings:

    TJ Moe, WR, Missouri (5114 – 204 – 4.60)
    Moe is probably the best of the UDFA signing of the bunch thus far. I was mildly surprised he didn’t get drafted in the later rounds. Lack of straight speed is what likely dropped Moe into the UDFA ranks. It’s going to be impossible for him to avoid being compared to Wes Welker. Moe isn’t fast, but he had one of the best 3-Cone times at the NFL Combine (6.53), displaying his elite quickness and sudden change of direction. Moe is ultra-reliable and isn’t afraid to put his body on the line to make catches. Even though his production dipped this past year, he was still the go to target in the Mizzou offense. He’s also a white slot receiver, so naturally he is a Wes Welker clone. Except in this case it actually fits. Moe has a very good chance to make this team. He’s the type of player that once you put him on the field he’s just going to do his thing. At the very least he is on the practice squad and is Amendola insurance. MOe had plenty of interest once he went undrafted and the Patriots were able to lock him up.

    Zach Sudfeld, TE, Nevada (6066 – 253 – 4.78)
    Sudfeld is a massive inline tight end. I had a feeling the Patriots may draft a tight end late in the draft even though they didn’t draft one, they wasted no time snatching up Sudfeld afterwards. Sudfeld is arguable the best undrafted tight end. Sudfeld was one of the most productive TE in the country last year posting a 45-598 – 9 stat line. Sudfeld lacks strength, only repping out 11 times at 222, and it’s probably the reason he dropped out of the draft. With the Tight End being so important to the Patriots offense, it’s important they continually add young depth at the position and that is what Sudfeld is.

    Cory Grissom, DT, South Florida (6013 – 306 – 5.21)
    Grissom was one of my top 225 prospects and a Senior Bowl invite. Nicknamed “Porkchop”. Grissom is likely a back-up at nose tackle or a rotational 4-3 tackle. He lacks much range and doesn’t penetrate, but what he can do is clog up things in the middle. He has an above average anchor, can take on double teams and flashes the ability to shed blocks in tight spots. Grissom won’t make many plays, but he will eat space for others around him. It seems as though each year the Patriots find value on the DL through UDFA and Grissom is an example of that. He could have very easily been selected in the 6th or 7th round.

    Matt Stankiewitch, OC, Penn State (6026 – 302 – 5.42)
    This is the first time we see the Bill Belichick dig into his Bill O’Brien – Penn State pipeline. Stankiewitch was a combine invite and one of the consensus top 6-7 centers in the draft. A Rimington Trophy finalist. Stankiewitch is adept as using his hands and can lock up defenders to anchor. He likely adds training camp and roster depth behind Ryan Wendell, who is a free agent after 2013. Stankiewitch has an outside shot at making the roster, but is Practice Squad material.

    Kenbrell Thompkins, WR, Cincinnati (6’1″ – 193 – 4.54)
    Thompkins was another combine invite. A junior college player that planned on attending Tennessee until Lane Kiffin’s departure left him hanging. Thompkins has experience playing out the outside and in the slot while at Cincinnati. Thompkins has good height and decent speed. He will add depth to the rebuilt wide receiver corps.

    Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech (6’2″ – 229)
    Allen is one of the most decorated college kickers of all time. He is a two time Ray Guy award winner and All-America. Allen was one of the Senior Bowl punters and if not for Jeff Locke, Allen would be the consensus top Punter in this year’s draft. Ryan Allen provides legit competition for Zoltan Mesko who hasn’t had any during the past two training camps. Competition is never a bad thing and Allen has a chance to stick. At least on the practice squad.

    Quentin Hines, RB, Akron (5’9″ – 191)
    Hines was a backup running back for the Zips – totaling 194 yards on 35 carries, including one 70 yard run. Hines also played on special teams, returning a few kickoffs.

    Brandon Ford, TE, Clemson (6’4″ – 245)
    Ford caught 40 balls for 480 yards in Clemson’s dynamic offense, scoring eight touchdowns. Ford can play both tight end and H-back, and has shown a good blend of athleticism. He ran a 4.7 forty and has enough savvy running routes to be an NFL player down the road.

    Stephon Morris, CB, Penn State (5’8″ – 188)
    Morris has failed to pick off a pass since his freshman season for the Nittany Lions, although he has been active in the run game – notching 5 tackles for loss. Morris ran a 4.38 forty, which will get you noticed this time of year.

    Elvis Fisher, OT, Missouri (6’5″ – 296)
    Fisher is slightly undersized at less than 300 pounds, but Fisher moves well for a big boy and was a team captain for Missouri. He has suffered multiple shoulder injuries, which contributed to him not getting drafted.

    Chris McDonald, OG, Michigan State (6’4″ – 300)
    McDonald is Patriots OL Nick McDonald’s little brother. He played guard for the Spratans and showed some promise, but got beat badly at times. He has some physical tools and a good football IQ, so Coach Scar definitely has some clay to work with.

    Brandon Jones, CB, Rutgers (6’0″ – 191)
    Jones led the Rutgers defense with five interceptions in 2012, also contributing nine pass breakups. His 4.56 forty likely contributed to him not being drafted, but he does have some ball skills – some even project him as a receiver.

    Josh Kline, OL, Kent State (6’3″ – 307)
    Kline had a very impressive pro day, running a 5.0 forty and showing some lateral movement skills. Kline played all five positions for Kent State and was part of a potent rushing attack featuring Dri Archer last year. Kline had a private workout with the Patriots earlier in March.

    Kanorris Davis, SS, Troy (5’10″ – 211)
    According to Gil Brandt, Davis “ran the 40 in 4.60 and 4.65 seconds, had a 37-inch vertical jump and 10-foot-1 broad jump, did the three-cone drill in 7.07 seconds and the short shuttle in 4.20 seconds, and did 21 lifts of 225 pounds on the bench press.”

    Ben Bartholomew, FB, Tennessee (6’2″ – 245)
    Bartholomew was invited to the Raycom All-Star game this off-season. He played some TE in addition to his time at fullback. He was able to catch 10 passes for over 100 yards and a score.

    Dwayne Cherrington, DL, Mississippi State (6’2″ – 345)

    Ryan Osiecki, QB, New Haven (Tryout)

     

     

     

    I think this is an interesting list. I see some talent here as well the M.Buchanan kid. Gonna be some vets that def. dont make the team in favor of youth. I see T.Scott, Francis, J.Cunningham all def. gone and I dont see how Edleman makes the team unless a few of these WR's really struggle picking up the offense. We have another Wes replacement/insurance in T.J.Moe who will def. make the p/s.  More Tight ENDS!!!! lol

    More Rutgers players!!!  Soon we will have an ALL Rutgers defensive backfield. Dont know if thats good or not. We have a Plethora of WR options to build on. Brady is gonna be exhausted trying to get all these guys up to speed. They Better consult Deion Branch to coach em up, since he wont be playing anymore...

     
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    Re: Rookie Free Agent Signings

    None of those players will replace Edelman.

     
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    I see a few midget DB on the list

     
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    There is a reason why they are undrafted.  Most will be released.  Good for camp competition and some to PS.

    I think the DTs will provide good competition in camp.  Grissom had a 4th rd grade, injury prone and doesn't get off quick enough; however, made plays.  Cherrington is massive 6'2", 345.  He will run-stuff and eat up double teams allowing LBs to make plays.  He didn't have much production, but looks very strong at the POA.

     
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    I think our D-line Depth is Crappy and uncertain at best. Im wondering why they didnt draft any DT's. I think the Florida kid will stick unless we are going the GIants, nascar route with 4 DE'.

    IN terms of Edleman, maybe you all are right, but he didnt look like a priority to me in F/A. Im hoping a couple of these WRs get up to speed and make him expendable. Not that I dont like Eds, but I would rather us concentrate on players who will be available in postseason and frankly, I dont think Edleman will ever play a full season if he is has any role in the offense. TJ Moe seems like a good candidate to me.

     
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    In response to stan17's comment:

    None of those players will replace Edelman.



    ? TJ Moe can replace Edelman. He is a bigger and better slot WR than Edelman IF he picks up the offense. He also returns punts. The kid is good and it will be interesting to see how this plays out in camp. Plus, he doesn't get hurt like Edelman. He is durable. Big advantage.

     
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    agreed! lets hope he stays healthy. Also wouldnt mind our own nascar lineup on passing downs

     
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    In response to TripleOG's comment:

    I think our D-line Depth is Crappy and uncertain at best. Im wondering why they didnt draft any DT's. I think the Florida kid will stick unless we are going the GIants, nascar route with 4 DE'.

    IN terms of Edleman, maybe you all are right, but he didnt look like a priority to me in F/A. Im hoping a couple of these WRs get up to speed and make him expendable. Not that I dont like Eds, but I would rather us concentrate on players who will be available in postseason and frankly, I dont think Edleman will ever play a full season if he is has any role in the offense. TJ Moe seems like a good candidate to me.



    Bingo. TJ Moe is better and more durable than Edelman. Edelman presumably knows the offense which gives him the advantage. I am putting my money on Moe. Edelman should stick, maybe Jones is the odd guy out.

     
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    Re: Rookie Free Agent Signings

    In response to TripleOG's comment:

     

    I think our D-line Depth is Crappy and uncertain at best. Im wondering why they didnt draft any DT's. I think the Florida kid will stick unless we are going the GIants, nascar route with 4 DE'.

    IN terms of Edleman, maybe you all are right, but he didnt look like a priority to me in F/A. Im hoping a couple of these WRs get up to speed and make him expendable. Not that I dont like Eds, but I would rather us concentrate on players who will be available in postseason and frankly, I dont think Edleman will ever play a full season if he is has any role in the offense. TJ Moe seems like a good candidate to me.

     

    TJ Moe was a QB before he became a receiver so you are right about his being a possible replacement for Edelman also. here is another name that might be in Camp at the NT position Joe Vellano DT from Maryland 6'1 306.


     

     
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    Yup - I think Edelman sticks - heck he was taking snaps away from Welker to start the season. And he is a 'plus' punt returner. The knock on him has been medical but I see that at this point as more fluke than being injury prone. Same with Amendola - neither has had major weight bearing joint or ligament injuries. Of course if next year they don't make it through the season, I will start to change my tune. Of course I will start saying the same about Hern and Gronk too.

     
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    Until he can play in 3 straight games with out a boo boo, Im wondering why all the endorsements?? We have a plethora of guys who can do what he does. In terms of "knowing the offense" How many different routes had he run as a patriot?? He runs Bubble screens and hitch routes here n' there but he has never Been Wes Welker. He has NEVER played the QB position, despite Rusty keep telling us he is the 3rd QB...lol

    Sure, he can play DB in a pinch, but we have better depth now, so tell me again why Edleman on a NON-garuanteed contract is gonna beat out D.Jones now....lol

    Take your fandom out of it and and use reasoning and logic. Edleman was signed as a stopgap between now and week 1. Im sure he will help out his replacements...lol.

    Just because Bone head Josh benched Wes to prove a point, doesnt mean Edleman ever had a chance to be Wes. That would require taking a hit and not breaking.

     

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