posted at 1/25/2010 3:32 PM EST
A board to post and discuss the latest rumors that involve the Patriots.
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Of all those guys, Dumervil is the one who truly excites me. Boldin would be a nice addition but would be more of a stop-gap than a long-term solution. Dumervil, in my opinion, would completely transform the defense. If you kept everyone else the same and added a dominant pass rusher like him, I think this defense becomes scary.
posted at 1/25/2010 3:50 PM EST
Stevie Nicks is hot and the Rumors album
posted at 1/25/2010 4:17 PM EST
I would love the pats to spend some $$ on two of those guys, Dumervil and Karlos Dansby he and Mayo would own the middle. Opposite to Dumervil add a Ricky Saap or Husghes and this would be a monster LB group. These guys will be expensive and Mr karft will need to open his check book but what a transformation that would be! Mo
posted at 1/25/2010 4:19 PM EST
how about wilfork for Elvis Dumervil and Brandon Marshall we get help on D and O and allow Pryor/Brace to step up. This solves the probelm if wilfork wants big money like haynesworth.
posted at 1/25/2010 4:24 PM EST
thanks for posting the ESPN insider content
posted at 1/25/2010 4:52 PM EST
Pats7393-No OL in your poll? Where's Mike Iupati? None of those DL players are going to protect Brady, open holes, or stop the Jest's pass rush.
posted at 1/25/2010 5:15 PM EST
haha, I know I know but I only added 1st rounders. I do think they will draft one but if you look (know I know you didn't read the blog) you see I have all sorts of changes on the OL but only have the team drafting one player. But even if we didn't draft one and the line stayed the same, the team was third best in sacks allowed per pass attempts. Brady was sacked 1 time per 32.6 pass attempts only TEN (33.3) and Ind (50.4) were better.
I like some of the options they already have on the team.
Here's how I see the lineu
LT Voll, LB Mankins, C Connolly, RG Ohrnberger, RT (R) Kyle Calloway or Tony Washington (either would be a 2nd rounder)
posted at 1/25/2010 5:43 PM EST
Actually, I did read the blog previously, but the poll shouldn't only give options that fit your opinion. I have seen more than a few mocks that have Iupati going in the first round. He is the 22nd rated player on the draft countdown site and goes 27th to Dallas in their mock (of course they also have NE taking Tebow in the first, so take that for what it's worth).
posted at 1/25/2010 6:07 PM EST
Cyber next poll will be a poll to see what players we'll poll in the following poll. would that work?
posted at 1/25/2010 6:12 PM EST
Not age my man..... experience
posted at 1/25/2010 6:25 PM EST
Not sure, maybe a poll would be in order.
posted at 1/25/2010 8:03 PM EST
~First, Excellent idea for a thread Nick...thanx for the info, please keep it comin'...
WHAT I DON'T LIKE:
Casey Hampton...and it's not because I'm extremely taken with Wilfork, I'm not. I actually believe Hampton collapses the pocket just a bit better than VW. But, Really I want (or wish) for this team to have a 3-4 NT that's at least 6'3, and Hampton has very much the same proportions as Wilfork @ 6'1 and @ 3 hundred and a quarter lbs. Also gotta wonder How ridiculous Wilfork might be if surrounded by James Harrison, Lamar Woodley and the likes of Troy Polamalu (as just a few), And in the end would rather have at the very least, a franchised, younger VW than get Hampton's 32 years.
Antonio Cromartie...in his mere 4 years in the league, Cromartie has shown brilliance, and imo complete and total inconsistency. Gambles too much (Asante anyone?), but might get a Pick and take it to the house at seemingly anytime (Do I want 19 PDs and 10 INTs this year OR 9 PDs and 2 INTs?), And finally isn't a bad tackler either (yet in BB's most recent D's, He seems to want his CBs to cushion the WR, let front 7 do the dirty work and CBs to play the pass...just not give up the huge play). And so in the end, Would rather shell out less to Leigh Bodden-1 year already in system and is a solid cover-corner, Rather than spend way, way too much on a young guy who very well, COULD be a shut-down CB yet gambles a ton and just might take a year off, so who knows his Cromartie...
Elvis Dumervil...man can this dude get to the QB. Man is he going to cost your team a TON of dollas. Big Question is, Is Dumervil a 1 year (contract-year, no doubt) wonder? What about his size @ just about 6 feet? Patriot's very well might need 2 Starting OLBs: A Strongside OLB, who can be bigger, even slower than his counter, but can stuff the run yet still is quick enough to play the pass, AND A Weakside OLB, a pass-specialist who can do a little less of all the above, CAN be somewhat smaller but faster, YET still knock the-he!! outta the QB in a hurry...Dumervil would project to be that weakside pass-rushing specialist for N.E. YET In the end, Because I trully don't see a starting Strongside OLB for a Belichick Defense in This Draft Class, I believe there ARE some potential fits as a weakside OLB, SO I don't wanna shell out 10 mil for a very talented but undersized, skilled but 1-year wonder, still young but Very Expensive Vet when we just might be able to shore the spot with a rook.
Aaron Kampman...IMO although unsure IF he does in fact, Kampman could be our starting Strongside Outside Linebacker. Got the weight @ around 280 lbs, and @ 6'4, He has the height. I believe Green Bay switched to a 3-4, and I know there were massive questions about Kampman's transition from DE to OLB. His sack total dropped from around 10 and upwards of even 15 the past few seasons, to an absurd low, something like 3 sacks this year... Has the vet-savy, Has the 1 year @ OLB, shown in past that he can get to the QB too... Yet, I gotta wonder not just how well the transition has worked, BUT I have far bigger Questions about How Aaron Kampman @ 30 years old will rebound from his recent knee injury this year...and at what Total Asking Price? Big, Low, Kampman's FA Cost is a large Unknown?
WHAT I DO LIKE:
Anquan Boldin...Yes please. Likes holding out of camp...but I'll live because Moss is getting much older, and even though Boldin isn't the youngest guy @ around 30 yo, He IS a proven commodity and gotta have 3 weapons for Tom Brady. Boldin Can be that insane #2 WR and in the future, possibly hold over the wideout spot for N.E. when Randy retires in a few years, ALSO The Cards will most definately trade him much cheaper than in years past. Q: Will they take an underachieving and disgruntled OLB, straight up?
Karlos Dansby...Sure. Had a somewhat off-year, so I don't think his asking price will be monumental. Almost certain, Dansby's played multiple linebacker spots, and @ 6'4 he's got the height, although just around 245 lbs, so in a perfect universe-Ideally he'd need 15 lbs. But Dansby's shown that he can do it all, Multi-schemes, Tackle, Play the Pass, Not bad getting to the QB (not spectacular)...so he gets the benefit of he doubt. 29 years old, but the wear and tear of just 6 years in the league...not bad. In Total, Out of the given options I'm aware of-IMO Dansby's holds to be the most consistent investment to play starting Strongside Outside Linebacker for N.E., and therefore BB can spend money on positions elsewhere and either sign in FA or imo, Draft a weakside OLB pass-rusher.
~Know it was long, but hopefully informative...Thoughts ANYONE?
posted at 1/25/2010 8:49 PM EST
The Patriots are conservative when it comes to signing top drawer FA's they thought they had gotten the missing link in Thomas but they were suckered in by the fact that he played with 3 other high quality and they thought that he was the spoke that made the wheel turn in Baltimore's Defense!
posted at 1/25/2010 9:07 PM EST
lazarus, good post. I do disagree with one point about Dumervil: I don't think he's a one year wonder at all. While this year certainly was his best year, he's been a very good pass rusher in 3 out of his 4 years in the league. His rookie season, he had 8.5 sacks in 13 games. He followed that up with 12.5 the next year. Last year he was down to 5, but that could be attributed to scheme, etc. And then, this season, when he made the transition to OLB (which is a MUCH better position for him in my opinion), he exploded for 17.
I'd expect that production to continue as long as he stays in a 3-4 scheme. I understand your point about the strong side / weak side positions, but that type of pass rushing threat is just too good to pass up in my opinion. I'm sure they could find someone to be a run stopper on the strong side on early downs, then giving way to TBC in passing situations. I think having Dumervil and TBC, along with some creative blitz packages (I think they should blitz ILB's Mayo and Guyton, and safeties Chung and Meriweather more often) would be an enormous boost to the pass defense.
posted at 1/26/2010 12:38 AM EST
pyegian and ALL:
Always Diggin' the recognition man... RE: Elvis Dumervil...Didn't follow through and unearth his stats as I should have, and incorrectly presumed less of a sack threat in years past-less to something as smart as positional change, Lol-more towards not recalling him in those League Leader Boards... Seriously though, Although I didn't know he averaged @ 10 sacks in 2 of his 3 prior years to this one, Man oh man would Dumervil cost, wow. AND GOD-So many multiple positional needs, simply potential Free Agent losses are scarry enough, but accounting for positional upgrades and some aged vets...sheez this's gotta be a good offseason. So securing an unbelievably expensive and undersized QB threat when a cheaper draftee could suffice (see-$ @ other spots), or when a serviceable guy might be on the team (see-$ @ other spots)...
pyegian, check this out man (and in no way whatsoever, diggin' on you...cause I here ya brotha, and too want Dumervil's prescence for N.E.)...yet, very least-here goes nuthin':
1 Starting Strong OLB (with securing super-star Woods-FA as reserve),
1 Starting/Perfect-Scenario-Reserve Pass-Rush OLB (with securing TBC-FA and/or Crable lmao="health"),
1 Starting #1 RB/Perfect-Scenario-Reserve (with securing scat-back/Faulk-FA/ and bigger-back work-horse/Morris-Health/Taylor-RFA/ And/Or securing 4-super-games-a-year Maroney-FA),
1 Starting #2 WR (with #3 WR-Edelman success and with #1 WR-Moss health),
1 Starting/Perfect-Scenario-Reserve TE (with securing underachieving Watson),
1 or 2 Starting/Perfect-Scenario-Reserve OG (with securing Mankins-FA and/or Neal-FA),
1 Starting/Perfect-Scenario-Reserve ILB (with securing mediocre SILB/Guyton-ERFA and with WILB/Mayo health),
1 Starting/Perfect-Scenario-Reserve DE (with securing Green-FA and/or Pryor/Richard 3-4 DE success),
1 Starting/Perfect-Scenario-Reserve CB (with securing Bodden-FA and Butler health/success)...
~Oh also, Wilfork can't hold out if he's franchised, McGowan's a Free Agent too, and we just might have to do without having a Kicker or Punter on the team (both FAs)...
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Sheppard may be short-timer with Jets
INDIANAPOLIS - The most noticeable thing about Lito Sheppard
yesterday was his absence.
And now the former Eagles cornerback is probably about to disappear from the New York Jets' roster.
After starting the Jets' previous eight games, Sheppard was benched by coach Rex Ryan in the team's 30-17 AFC championship loss to the Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium.
Second-year cornerback Dwight Lowery started in Sheppard's place and had more than his share of problems tracking the Colts' receivers.
"I knew about it at the beginning of the week - Wednesday, when we got in" to practice, Sheppard said. "It was obviously a big surprise."
And a big disappointment, similar in nature to the end of his tenure with the Eagles when he went from Pro Bowl starter to the fourth cornerback behind Asante Samuel, Sheldon Brown, and Joselio Hanson.
"I've been through this situation before," Sheppard said. "I didn't think it would happen again, but we'll see how it goes."
Sheppard did get on the field late in the first quarter after Donald Strickland, another former Eagles cornerback, suffered a groin injury. On Sheppard's first play, Colts wide receiver Pierre Garcon got behind him for a 36-yard reception to the Jets' 9-yard line.
Sheppard played the rest of that defensive series, but he did not return after that.
This was Sheppard's first season with the Jets after being traded by the Eagles for draft picks in April. The Jets gave Sheppard a two-year contract extension after the trade, and it included a $10 million roster bonus that is scheduled to be paid March 11. There have been multiple reports that the Jets will not exercise that option, which would make Sheppard an unrestricted free agent.
posted at 1/26/2010 1:53 AM EST
There's one big free-agent fish to keep an eye on - Julius Peppers. Remember, the Patriots sniffed around Randy Moss for quite some time before trading for him, so last year's rumblings about Peppers could've been a precursor to a real run at him. Peppers is almost certain to become a free agent, since the Panthers would have to tender him an offer of more than $20 million to franchise him for a second straight year.