Re: Saints a fraud?... Pats WILL destroy them!
posted at 11/3/2009 10:37 AM EST
In Response to Re: Saints a fraud?... Pats WILL destroy them!
[QUOTE]I think that the Saints right now are for real. Will they go undefeated? I doubt it, but I wouldnt be surprised. Records are made to be broken. I dont have any facts to support this, but I think that the saints are a more complete team that the 2007 NE Patriots were. NO has a great rushing offense, great QB, good WR and a defense that takes the ball away and scores. The 2007 NE team relied soley on the offense blowing teams out. Yeah they had a couple of close games with Baltimore and the Giants, but with Baltimore they had no offense at the time and with the Giants it was a shootout. As I mentioned before do I think they go undefeated? NO, but anything is possible. I do believe they are the best team in the League right now, right behind Indy. I think it is great that NE is able to face both of these teams during November. It will definatley show were they stand. First up Miami. One game at a time.
Posted by patsfaninsatx[/QUOTE]
Look, reality check. The Saints are not going to go undefeated (and we only even entertain this notion because of that Pats team). I actually think it is more likely the Colts could get to 13-0 or so if they got by the Pats.. probably could see a good defensive team such as the Jets/Denver giving them their only potential loss... but even then I'd still have the Colts as favorites... Maybe an 'inspiried' Vince Young-led Titans pulling off a major upset to give that team something... not likely, but still fun to think about.
The other thing to note is that this notion of 'Games for where you stand' seems to me to mean nothing when it comes to the playoffs. All that matters is winning in the playoffs. Just some things from the past few seasons I was quickly looking up, for example:
2008 Steelers lost to the Colts, Giants, Titans and Eagles in the regular season before winning the Super Bowl.. all playoff teams. Never played any of them again. To me, they might have been the 'worst' of that group if those teams all stayed healthy. Doesn't matter, they won when it mattered.
2007 Giants lost to the same Patriots team they beat in the Super Bowl. Also lost to the Cowboys TWICE and Green Bay once before beating them in the playoffs as well. Again, very different team come that stretch run.
2006 Colts.. well, they were undefeated for a while, only lost 4 games, all toward the end of the year in garbage time of the season. Still, not undefeated (but possibly good enough to try for it). Some here might argue the Pats game was the real Super Bowl that year and they played that game twice, both 'close', second game required massive comeback.
2005 Steelers: Lost to the Colts and Bengals (and not 'cheapy' losses) before beating them both in the playoffs (in tough wins, I might add).
2003/04/01 Pats also had similar experiences with the Steelers, Rams, etc.
If I had a point, it is this... Don't put too much stock into these sorts of regular season games between teams that you know are likely to meet in the playoffs again when things change. That isn't an excuse for any team in advance... The playoffs are VERY different, injuries happen and what a team takes from a first game can mean a lot toward that second and/or third meeting... We have yet to see how these Saints will respond to a team that already knows what they are up against. (Think Pats against the Wildcat, game 2). Similarly, I don't buy into this notion that if the Pats were to beat the Colts and Saints, they'd be any more likely to beat them (or even a team like the Vikings/Steelers) in the playoffs.
We also seem to ignore the very real chance a team like Carolina might knock them off in one of their two games, too... I know, I know. But this is a division game and a team that can run the ball, does still have a all-world WR that can get open on anyone, etc.. You just need someone to show up for one game. Maybe not this next game, but perhaps the one in Carolina. And maybe a Ted Ginn -type special teams effort as well.. that wouldn't hurt.