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         What a day! Talk about heart stopping, inspirational wins. First, we are dragged out of the depths of despair as a result of a last minute, eight (8) play, 70 yard drive, allowing the Patriots to snatch victory out of the jaws of defeat, 30-27. Then, after resigning ourselves that the Detroit Tigers' pitching staff was just too good, and that the glorious 2013 Red Sox season was all but over, Big Papi leads them back from an 8th inning, 5-1 deficit with a grand slam home run, and the Sox score in the bottom of the 9th to pull out an improbable 6-5 win. Folks, somebody up there likes us. 

         But I digress...let's talk Patriots. Here are my grades:

    I. OFFENSE: After an impressive first half, it was Cincinnati all over again for the great majority of the second, as the Patriots offense again sputtered badly, and apparently was going to be held to just two FGs, in another frustrating loss. But, then came the return of "Tom Terrific" who, for the most part, had been AWOL this season...leading his band of rag-tag receivers 70 yards in the 1:08, to lead his team to victory.

    1.) QB: After throwing TD passes in 52 consecutive weeks, could Tom Brady fail to throw a TD pass in two straight games? It appeared so, as, for all intents and purposes, it appeared that the Pats were going to give another game away, and lose in frustrating fashion, 27-23. But, as has been the case over the past few years, instead of the Pats "D" wilting in the final minutes to allow a game winning TD drive...this time it was the Patriots' offense and Brady that did the deed. Getting the ball on his own 30 yard line with just 1:13 remaining to be played, Brady threw a dart over the middle to Julian Edelman for 23 yards, moving the ball to the New Orleans' 47 yard line. Then followed a 15 yard completion to new comer Austin Collie, a six yard completion to Aaron Dobson, and, on a 4th and 4 at the Saints' 26, a crucial nine (9) yard hook-up with Collie, to keep the drive alive. Then, with just seconds to play and no time outs remaining, Brady threw a perfect strike to an open Kembrell Thompkins in the corner of the end zone, to pull out the win. For the game, Tom was a rather pedestrian 25 completions in 43 attempts for 269 yards, a pick, and a TD...but was 5 of 7 for 70 yards and a TD on that glorious final drive. Prior to his heroics, he had once again appeared frustrated, and indecisive with his throws. His asccuracy was off, an indicated when he badly missed a wide open Danny Amendola early in the 3rd quarter, after the Saints had cut a New England lead to 17-10. Then, there was that interception late in the 4th quarter when, seemingly out of frustration, he threw up a 50 yard prayer...with the Patriots down, 27-23. But this time, it was the opposition and not the Patriots, that couldn't close the game out: GRADE: B+;

    2.) RBs: Stevan Ridley ran hard and well, gaining 96 yards on 20 attempts, in his best game of the season. Brandon Boldin played, despite obviously laboring from injury...and chipped in with 19 yards on 5 carries. But, his 4th quarter drop of a pass over the middle seemed to finish off the Pats, with a little over three minutes to play. LaGarrette Blount has never been the same since his costly fumble last week, and had just 9 yards on 7 carries. That said, this corp needs to do a much better job in picking up LBs and DBs on blitzes, as players are getting some drive killing sacks, and clean shots at the Pats' 36 year old QB: GRADE: C+;

    3.) OL: Much more is expected from this group than we've seen over the past two games. When given running room, the Pats' RBs are able to make some nice runs. But, the Saints put up seven (7) TFL, seven (7) QB hits, and five (5) sacks. These are unacceptable numbers. Particularly disappointing today was the play of Logan Mankins and LT Nate Solder: GRADE: C-;

    4.) TEs and WRs: Good to see the return of the TE to the Patriots' offensive scheme, as "The Hooman" caught four (4) balls for 57 yards...including a 19 yard play to convert on a 3rd and 18, on the Pats' initial TD drive in the 2nd quarter. Though Aaron Dobson led the team in receptions with (6), for 63 yards, his drops are annoyingly increasing. Julian Edelman was targeted a team leading 11 times, finishing with five (5) catches for 57 yards. Credit Edelman for holding onto the ball on his key 23 yard reception during the teams' game winning drive, after being plastered by a Saints' safety. Danny Amendola wasn't as lucky, as he got nailed by a safety on a helmet to helmet hit that wasn't called...knocking the Pats' "Man of Crystal" out of the game with another concussion. He had no catches, though, as pointed out above, broke free over the middle deep in the third quarter. But for a poorly thrown Brady pass, he would have had a TD. Kembrell Thompkins had just three (3) catches for 45 yards...but made the big play in the end zone late to secure the win: GRADE: B-;

    II. DEFENSE: After a brilliant first half, the Saints made adjustments...namely began to ground and pound with success in the second stanza. But giving up that late 34 yard TD pass on a 3rd and 20 play marred what was otherwise a gritty performance against a top offense.

    1.) DL: Joe Vellano and Chandler Jones combined for 15 tackles (4 solos), and, were it not for the refs allowing the Saints' OL to get away with holding throughout the game, might have registered more than the one Chandler Jones coverage sack. Pressure by the DL in the final quarter did result in a rushed and poorly thrown Brees pass, that Kyle Arrington intercepted. It gave the Pats a chance to close the game out with a TD. But, unfortunately, it only resulted in a FG, and a 23-17 late 4th quarter lead. That said, this group looked like the Potstown Firebirds instead of the New England Patriots against the run, as the Saints gained 113 of their 131 yards rushing in the second half: GRADE: B-;     

    2.) LBs: Jerod Mayo and Brandon Spikes combined for 11 tackles (7 solos)...before Mayo went down with a shoulder injury. Credit this corp for doing a good job of containing the dangerous Darren Sproles coming out of the backfield as a receiver. For the game, Sproles finished with just six (6) catches for 58 yards, though he was targeted on 12 occasions. Dont'a Hightower (playing hurt) and Jamie Collins were virtually invisible throughout the game, as Hightower didn't make the stat sheet, and Collins had just two tackles: GRADE: B-;

    3.) SECONDARY: Another outstanding performance by Aqib Talib, who blanketed and shut out Saints' star TE Jimmy Graham throughout the game, until he was forced to leave with a non-contact hip injury. Judging by Talib's frustrated reaction to the injury, he may be out for an extended period. Solid play throughout the majority of the game by Devin McCourty, Kyle Arrington, and Alfonzo Dennard, against a first rate set of receivers. But, giving up that 34 yard TD play in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter, on a 3rd and 20 play, was inexcusable. Though Drew Brees must be credited for making a perfect throw, Alfonzo Dennard should not have let rookie WR Kenny Stills get behind him. As usual, SS Steve Gregory was late in assisting on coverage. Isn't it grand to see the Patriots still struggling at the strong safety position, despite spending the 34th pick in the 2009 draft on Patrick Chung to shore up the position, followed by using the 48th overall pick in 2012 on the worthless Tavon Wilson, and the 91st overall pick this year (which could have been used to snag Steelers' WR Emanuel Sanders) on SS Duron Harmon? Once again, BB the general manager has failed BB the coach: GRADE: C+;

    III. SPECIAL TEAMS: Tip your hat to "The Ghost", whenever you see him whisp on by. Gostkowski continued his fabulous season by nailing a critical 54 yard FG late in the 3rd quarter to stop the bleeding, after the Saints had just scored 10 unanswered points, to regain the lead for the Patriots, at 20-17. Had he missed that kick, Drew Brees and company would have had a short field to negotiate, with momentum on their side. The Ghost also hit a 35 yarder early and a 20 yarder late, to put his team up, 23-17. He also continued his excellent, touchback forcing kick-offs. The Pats are being rewarded for their decision to keep punter Ryan Allen, who averaged over 52 yards on four (4) punts. Darren Sproles and Julian Edelman offset themselves, each averaging over six (6) yards on three returns: GRADE: A;

    IV. COACHING: Great job of scheming to completely shut down TE Jimmy Graham, and to keep RB Darren Sproles in check. Vince Wilfolk was missed in the second half however, as the Saints were able to run through the protect against the pass first Patriots' defense like a hot knife through butter. Terrible coverage breakdown late in the game, as describe in greater detail above, nearly did the team in. On offense, who was responsible for the play calls on that early 4th quarter series, subsequent to the Arrington interception? With a first and goal from the Saints 9 yard line, the Pats called three consecutive runs up the middle...as if they were content to settle for a FG. A FG is what they got, incresing their lead to 23-17...keeping the Saints just one TD away from winning...which they very nearly did. Credit BB for that gutsy decision to attempt a 54 yard FG, rather than punt: GRADE: B;

    V. PLAY OF THE GAME: The 17 yard Brady to Thompkins TD pass to win the game, with 0:05 remaing to be played;

    VI. PLAYER OF THE GAME: Tough call here, as Aqib Talib, Brady, and Stephen Gostkowski all are top candidates. I'll go with Talib. Completely shutting down Graham was huge.

         Here are the game stats: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=331013017.

         As always, your comments and opinions are welcome.

         Enjoy the win! Have a great day, my friends!!  

          

     
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    TP thanks - again better and more interesting than anything the Globe writers publish. 

    It wasn't just Dobson dropping the ball, I think there were something like 17 drops. Brady was also inaccurate on occasion as you mention. 

    The D would have been much better graded I think had that unacceptable 3rd and 20 not happened, but that truly was a horrible play on our part. 

    Nevertheless, a win. A very, very big win. 

    And a sense that there isn't really anyone in the league that is far beyond us. Certainly not on any given Sunday....

     
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    Gentlemen, what we witnessed yesterday was a gutty gritty TEAM win. ALL parts of the team overcame their own hurdles and demons, whether it was injuries, inexperience, or talent gap vs the opposition, to play to win to the very end. Coaching, by the way, deserves an A the game, as well as the game ball. That was situational football at its very best.

    Dobson and Thompson, in my opinion, will be outstanding for many years. Ridley played a great game. Brady played a game for the ages, relying not on sheer talent but grit and determination. The youngsters playing on the defensive line aren't getting the credit they deserve. Also overlooked, in the shadow of Talib's awesome defense against Graham, is the impressive play of McCourty, Arrington, Dennard and Gregory (who made teeth-rattling tackles all day long), once Talib got hurt.

    What a game! This team must now believe they can overcome any adversity.

     
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    In response to BostonTrollSpanker's comment:
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    TP thanks - again better and more interesting than anything the Globe writers publish. 

    It wasn't just Dobson dropping the ball, I think there were something like 17 drops. Brady was also inaccurate on occasion as you mention. 

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    Brady was 25 of 43, so 18 incompletions. I'm 100% certain that there weren't anything close to 17 drops. Maybe seven or eight max. Dobson had two that I recall (first play of the game and the 4th and 6), maybe had another one or even two. I remember Thompkins having one, and Bolden had one and Edelman had one, so that's five I can recall, but add three just because maybe I tuned out a few plays. 

    Drops are annoying, but let's not make it even worse than it is.



     
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    Good job. Personally I think the offensive line was horrendous for most of the game, there were total collapses on 25% of the pass plays and instant penetration on way too many run plays...and on others Brady wisely stepped up, around and through a collapsing pocket. I thought Brady played poorly for much of that game - the real thing that worries me is the velocity on some of his outside throws, it looks like the ball is dying on him half way there. Now he's never really had the arm where he can just sling 20 yard out, after 20 yard out, but he could do it well enough. To me it looks like he's losing his fast ball a little bit and his accuracy is hurting a little because he has to put more into the throw...maybe it's just because of the new guys, but I don't know?

    I disagree that Thompkins was open on that last play - it looked like he was covered pretty well (along with everyone else) in that endzone. It kind of reminded me of that Kenny Stills td...perfect pass...not really open, but the receiver made the play...and had the defensive back leaped another inch, game is over.

     
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    Sorry, I meant Thompkins not Thompson in the post above. Got a little too excited....

     
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    Thanks again for taking the time to take a look at how the Pats performed in this game. I mostly agree with your grades. Though if you could seperate McD from the rest of the coaches- I give him a  C- at best. 

    Had to do anything today but bask in the glory of incrediable come back wins. Tom Brady was a man on fire.  Tom Terrific.  This game is the stuff of legend. And TB is my player of the game.

    What a WIN! Against the Saints.  Beautiful.

    Best face of the game- Rob Ryan when TB hit Thompkins for the TD. That was prety sweet too.

    Today is a day to just enjoy being a Boston fan. Thanks guys!

     
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    Good job. Personally I think the offensive line was horrendous for most of the game, there were total collapses on 25% of the pass plays and instant penetration on way too many run plays...and on others Brady wisely stepped up, around and through a collapsing pocket. I thought Brady played poorly for much of that game - the real thing that worries me is the velocity on some of his outside throws, it looks like the ball is dying on him half way there. Now he's never really had the arm where he can just sling 20 yard out, after 20 yard out, but he could do it well enough. To me it looks like he's losing his fast ball a little bit and his accuracy is hurting a little because he has to put more into the throw...maybe it's just because of the new guys, but I don't know?

    I disagree that Thompkins was open on that last play - it looked like he was covered pretty well (along with everyone else) in that endzone. It kind of reminded me of that Kenny Stills td...perfect pass...not really open, but the receiver made the play...and had the defensive back leaped another inch, game is over.

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    Sort of odd huh, if Dennard who was right there gets his hand on he ball we most likely don't get the Thompkins play. Hats off to both QB's for fantastics throws and both receivers for executing. BTW I thought Gregory was late getting over on that play. They were in cover 2 he has to be able to make that play against Stills.

     
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    Gentlemen, what we witnessed yesterday was a gutty gritty TEAM win. ALL parts of the team overcame their own hurdles and demons, whether it was injuries, inexperience, or talent gap vs the opposition, to play to win to the very end. Coaching, by the way, deserves an A the game, as well as the game ball. That was situational football at its very best.

    Dobson and Thompson, in my opinion, will be outstanding for many years. Ridley played a great game. Brady played a game for the ages, relying not on sheer talent but grit and determination. The youngsters playing on the defensive line aren't getting the credit they deserve. Also overlooked, in the shadow of Talib's awesome defense against Graham, is the impressive play of McCourty, Arrington, Dennard and Gregory (who made teeth-rattling tackles all day long), once Talib got hurt.

    What a game! This team must now believe they can overcome any adversity.

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    Yeah, I agree, I thought it was a great game and I thought we deserved to win it. We were the team with all the rookies, all our best players on the sideline with injury and they were the team expected to win. Belichick always has one of these games up his sleave...I thought the job they did on Graham was fabulous...I didn't think they could do that especially after the way Gonzalez smoked us.

     
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    Good job. Personally I think the offensive line was horrendous for most of the game, there were total collapses on 25% of the pass plays and instant penetration on way too many run plays...and on others Brady wisely stepped up, around and through a collapsing pocket. I thought Brady played poorly for much of that game - the real thing that worries me is the velocity on some of his outside throws, it looks like the ball is dying on him half way there. Now he's never really had the arm where he can just sling 20 yard out, after 20 yard out, but he could do it well enough. To me it looks like he's losing his fast ball a little bit and his accuracy is hurting a little because he has to put more into the throw...maybe it's just because of the new guys, but I don't know?

    I disagree that Thompkins was open on that last play - it looked like he was covered pretty well (along with everyone else) in that endzone. It kind of reminded me of that Kenny Stills td...perfect pass...not really open, but the receiver made the play...and had the defensive back leaped another inch, game is over.

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    What made this game really special to me was that Brady overcame adversity to win by willing it to happen. OK, his skills aren't the same as a couple of years ago and he is also surrounded by a lot less talent but it's making him a better leader. He is relying more on the run game, on the defense to get him the ball back, and on his receivers to get separation rather than threading the needle. I continue to believe that this will be his best year in the league as a leader of men. I also believe this team will peak towards the end of the season when Gronk and Vereen are back, the rookies have more experience under their belt, and when the team is completely confident about their ability to win whether they are playing ahead, behind or level in the middle of the fourth quarter.

     
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    They stopped Graham and Colston, basically took them out of the game, and they contained Sproles pretty well - had a couple of nice plays but nothing much really. They made the rookies and lesser guys, Thomas, Watson, etc. beat them, and they almost did. But it was a solid plan and they executed it well, even after Talib went out. Didn't hurt that Graham was hobbled.

     
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    Good job. Personally I think the offensive line was horrendous for most of the game, there were total collapses on 25% of the pass plays and instant penetration on way too many run plays...and on others Brady wisely stepped up, around and through a collapsing pocket. I thought Brady played poorly for much of that game - the real thing that worries me is the velocity on some of his outside throws, it looks like the ball is dying on him half way there. Now he's never really had the arm where he can just sling 20 yard out, after 20 yard out, but he could do it well enough. To me it looks like he's losing his fast ball a little bit and his accuracy is hurting a little because he has to put more into the throw...maybe it's just because of the new guys, but I don't know?

    I disagree that Thompkins was open on that last play - it looked like he was covered pretty well (along with everyone else) in that endzone. It kind of reminded me of that Kenny Stills td...perfect pass...not really open, but the receiver made the play...and had the defensive back leaped another inch, game is over.

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    What made this game really special to me was that Brady overcame adversity to win by willing it to happen. OK, his skills aren't the same as a couple of years ago and he is also surrounded by a lot less talent but it's making him a better leader. He is relying more on the run game, on the defense to get him the ball back, and on his receivers to get separation rather than threading the needle. I continue to believe that this will be his best year in the league as a leader of men. I also believe this team will peak towards the end of the season when Gronk and Vereen are back, the rookies have more experience under their belt, and when the team is completely confident about their ability to win whether they are playing ahead, behind or level in the middle of the fourth quarter.

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    That's just it...it's all about peaking towards the end of the season...getting your guys back healthy, etc. The only thing is Wilfork is not coming back and you need a guy like that if you're going to win it all because sooner or later you will be in a 3rd and 1 to win a game, and not having him will hurt. Now maybe what they have is enough...I don't think so, but who knows?

     
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    good report. 

    Can't believe the incredible defense this team is playing...wow!

    Exciting..

     
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    TP thanks - again better and more interesting than anything the Globe writers publish. 

    It wasn't just Dobson dropping the ball, I think there were something like 17 drops. Brady was also inaccurate on occasion as you mention. 

    RESPONSE: Were there really that many drops??

    The D would have been much better graded I think had that unacceptable 3rd and 20 not happened, but that truly was a horrible play on our part. 

    RESPONSE: Agreed. Giving up that play in that situation was inexcusable.

    Nevertheless, a win. A very, very big win. 

    And a sense that there isn't really anyone in the league that is far beyond us. Certainly not on any given Sunday....

    RESPONSE: Even wounded as the Patriots are, there's no team, with the possible exception of Seattle and Denver, that's better than they are. 

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    good report. 

    Can't believe the incredible defense this team is playing...wow!

    Exciting..

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         Hopefully, Aqib Talib will be back soon, so that the run of good "D" will continue. Unfortunately though, his injury looked to be serious.

     
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    Best face of the game- Rob Ryan when TB hit Thompkins for the TD. That was prety sweet too.

    RESPONSE: Agreed...LOL!!!

    Today is a day to just enjoy being a Boston fan. Thanks guys!

    RESPONSE: Amen, brother! What a fabulous Boston sports day!!

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         Thank you Tom, and Big Papi!!!: http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/obnoxiousbostonfan/2013/10/ortiz_brady_fire_up_2004_time_machine_clutch_boston.html

     
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    The face I enjoyed the most was the Payton pucker at the end of the game.

     
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    Gentlemen, what we witnessed yesterday was a gutty gritty TEAM win. ALL parts of the team overcame their own hurdles and demons, whether it was injuries, inexperience, or talent gap vs the opposition, to play to win to the very end. Coaching, by the way, deserves an A the game, as well as the game ball. That was situational football at its very best.

    Dobson and Thompson, in my opinion, will be outstanding for many years. Ridley played a great game. Brady played a game for the ages, relying not on sheer talent but grit and determination. The youngsters playing on the defensive line aren't getting the credit they deserve. Also overlooked, in the shadow of Talib's awesome defense against Graham, is the impressive play of McCourty, Arrington, Dennard and Gregory (who made teeth-rattling tackles all day long), once Talib got hurt.

    What a game! This team must now believe they can overcome any adversity.

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    Yeah, I agree, I thought it was a great game and I thought we deserved to win it. We were the team with all the rookies, all our best players on the sideline with injury and they were the team expected to win. Belichick always has one of these games up his sleave...I thought the job they did on Graham was fabulous...I didn't think they could do that especially after the way Gonzalez smoked us.

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    I'm thinking that both of the above pretty much reflect my view of the game.  The stat of the game from my perspective was Graham: 0 catches.  Anyone have a handle on how many times he was targeted (although if he was covered as well as it appears this number would be lower than normal anyway)?

    TP, overall I can't really find fault with your narrative.  I try to avoid grades but they're probably pretty close to the way I would see them.

     
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         Here's a report card on the Saints performance from their main beat-writer: http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/10/new_orleans_saints_vs_new_engl_16.html 

     
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    I just finished watching the DVR'd game a 2nd time. What struck me was the inconsistencies. The Oline at times was dominant. Yet TB was sacked repeatedly and the Oline was blowing assigments thru all 4 quarters. The defensive back field played very well...yet Gregory was late in coverage on the TD, and McCourty had a few missed tackles....

    I double checked...there were not 17 drops...but there were 17 passes that hit Patriot players in the hands that were not caught..granted, some were difficult catches, but the passes did hit the player in the hands...

    TB was deadly accurate on many, many of his passes...yet he air mailed a sure TD to Amendola, and put up a duck on the INT intended for Edelman

    Any win is a good win...but the inconsistancies are what needs to be addressed 

     

     
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    TB was deadly accurate on many, many of his passes...yet he air mailed a sure TD to Amendola, and put up a duck on the INT intended for Edelman 

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    It didn't look like Brady set his feet on the Amendola miss.  The throw to Edelman was easily his worst of the game.  Edelman was double covered, but it looked like the safety help was late and a good throw could have been a big play.  Bad throws happen.  They just came at some bad times yesterday.  Thankfully it all worked out in the end.

     
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    good report. 

    Can't believe the incredible defense this team is playing...wow!

    Exciting..

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         Hopefully, Aqib Talib will be back soon, so that the run of good "D" will continue. Unfortunately though, his injury looked to be serious.

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    sadly TexPat it doesnt look good. he's always had that issue and like u said his reaction to he was not good.. i really hope he can get back after the bye for the next set of toughies

     
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    TB was deadly accurate on many, many of his passes...yet he air mailed a sure TD to Amendola, and put up a duck on the INT intended for Edelman 

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    It didn't look like Brady set his feet on the Amendola miss.  The throw to Edelman was easily his worst of the game.  Edelman was double covered, but it looked like the safety help was late and a good throw could have been a big play.  Bad throws happen.  They just came at some bad times yesterday.  Thankfully it all worked out in the end.

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    I will look at this again...good points to check out

    I also thought TB was holding the ball an unusual amount of time...watching from the stands, it appeared the recievers were well covered. Hard to tell from the TV tape, but TB on numerous occasions was holding, holding, holding...but no throw away..heck, he even ran a couple of times.

    I think more than missing Wes (Edelman and Amendola when healthy are fine fill ins)Brady misses Woody and Vareen on the dump off pass when down field is not there. Ridley and Bolden have pretty good hands (in spire of the drop) but they dont get open and available to TB as well as Woody or Vareen

     
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    Re: Saints @ Patriots REPORT CARD

    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    I also thought TB was holding the ball an unusual amount of time...watching from the stands, it appeared the recievers were well covered. Hard to tell from the TV tape, but TB on numerous occasions was holding, holding, holding...but no throw away..heck, he even ran a couple of times.

    I think more than missing Wes (Edelman and Amendola when healthy are fine fill ins)Brady misses Woody and Vareen on the dump off pass when down field is not there.

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    I definitely agree with this assessment.  The pass protection has had issues this year, but the ball definitely isn't coming out as quickly which puts a lot of pressure on the OL.  I was wrong about Woodhead.  I thought he would have been more easily replaced.  I think we both agree Vereen can be better, but he needs to stay healthy obviously.  

     

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