Re: SF 49ers this weekend vs NY Giants to avenge loss last year & also for me, avenge, Pats loss to NY last 2 times !!!
posted at 10/10/2012 1:38 PM EDT
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This 49er fan(45 years in SF) and 1st 21 in Maine so a Boston team fan first hopes the 49ers avenge their playoff loss last year and also avenge for the Pats the Giants ruining their unbeaten season 2 years ago & then beating the Pats again in last year's superbowl. I am as dissapointed in that 49er loss as I still am in the Celtics losing to the Lakers in 2010 after they had a 13 pt lead in the 3rd qtr but could not overcome the egregious difference in foul shot awarded, 41 to 18, with more to the Lakers in the 4th Qtr, 21 foul shots, than to Boston in the whole game !
I was at the SF game and a fluke bounce hitting the receiver's knee by 1/2 inch gives NY the ball at 20 yd line & they score a TD. I do not care if the ball was downed on the 1 foot line the receiver should have stayed away from it ! There were other breaks ---Bradshaw stripped of the ball while upright causing a fumble at NY 20 yard line but refs called play stopped in The Grasp and could not be challenged. Ridiculous as he was a running back not a QB risking injury. On 2 occasions there were 2 not 1 SF defenders knocking down a pass but also colliding preventing interceptions. The same receiver who had the ball nick his knee---he was a replacement for 49er regular kick off return man, Ted Ginn, who was hurt---in OT fumbles and gives NY a gift wrapped win with a 20 yd field goal in OT. Manning was hit 21 times and sacked 6 times. NY needed to punt 10 times in 2nd half and only scored their 10 points on a TD from the fluke bounce ball & a field goal in OT from the fumble. If the Giant fans did not admit they were lucky to win that game they are not true football fans !!!
So, then I was waiting for the Pats to avenge their loss 2 years ago and, for me, the 49ers loss ! The first drive by Giants resulting in a safety giving them 2 pts was the first step toward gifts to NY. On the next drive the Pats defense results in a fumble at about the 10 yd line I think and they recover but had 12 men on the field. NY then went on to score and led 9 to 0. The Pats then go on to score 17 points in a row. And in that same period they caused 2 NY fumbles and as luck would have it, the Giants recovered both times. Then, of course, the dropped passes by Welker & Hernandez who normally would catch these 9 out of 10 times which were claimed to not be on target still should have been caught. These would have continued to give the Pats possession. I do not have stats but NY had to have had the ball 1 1/2 times as long in the game as we did and I believe on their last drive our defense was fatigued. Also, notable, Brady made 16 passes in a row surpassing Montana' s SB record of 13. With NE ahead 17-9, it is still only a 1 score game needing a 2 pt conversion. We tried to kill the clock running the ball and needing to pass on 3rd down. We did not have the backs to sustain running play 1st down drives. We needed to continue to pass short 5 yarders perhaps as Brady was under constant pressure and I know this is not run the clock down but keeping possession by passes does. If we had more than an 8 point lead, yup, perhaps run the ball twice in a possession.
As opposed to the 49ers, the Pats did not pressure Manning as much. On the last possession from the 12 yd line the miracle acrobatic pass to Manningham was excruciating as I never saw the refs confirm the play that he was in bounds. I guess we didn't have a challenge left ? Incredible that Welker & Hernandez drop much easier balls and this guy was able to stay in bounds and hold on to the ball as he was hit pretty hard too and yup, skill in Mannings throw & the catch too but still very lucky !!!
I do not even want the Giants in the playoffs this year. I mean last year they get in with a 9-7 record & beat GB & SF on home fields. Anything can happen in the playoffs. So, I hope the 49ers thrash all the NY State teams as they have taken care of the Jets & Bills so need now to do so to the NY Giants, whom I hate as much as the Yankees !!!
It would have been interesting last year a 49er-Pat superbowl. I would have rooted for the PATs but would not have been devastated had the 49ers won.
Wow, you don't need a tissue, you need a whole carton!! Where to begin.....
You can point to all the "fluke" plays, or bad calls or bad luck you want. The reality is every game has these elements and they go both ways. Good teams win in spite of these things, losing teams don't. You might recall, that the previous week in GB the Giants were victims of some poor calls, they still won by 20. Clay Matthewes said the Packers "beat themselves".... LOL beat themselves by 3 scores!!
Kyle Williams screwed up, twice. Sometimes not making mistakes wins games. Ask Lee Evans or Billy Cundiff. I love that you point to Ginn Jr being hurt... hilarious, all teams have injuries, most more significant than Ted Ginn. It is especially ironic pertaining to 49ers and Giants since in 1991 the Giants went into Candlestick and beat the 49ers with a BACKUP QB!!! Losers make excuses, winners find ways to win.
As to the Super Bowl whine session, for starters the Manningham catch was challenged, any "true fan" would know that. It proved to be a costly waste of a time out. Calling the Manning to Manningham pass "luck" is pathetic. Especially when you juxtapose it with the Welker/Hernandez drops. Again, good teams make plays, losing teams make mistakes.
Any team that ever won a Super Bowl had a fortunate bounce or lucky call go their way. The Patriots dynasty and the legend of Tom Brady began with probably the most controversial call in league history. If that is ruled a fumble the Pats dynasty may never happen. Loser Raider fans cried about the tuck rule and Loser Rams fans cried about spygate and the Patriots won Super Bowls.
Regarding NY beating Green Bay, Rodgers said that the loss of a son by a coach affected him and many players deeply ---was this an excuse on his part that GB played poorly ? Maybe and Maybe not ! I was so happy that the Giants won as I did not want the 49ers to go to Green bay.
Regarding Kyle Williams, I said in my post that I didn't care if the ball was downed on the 1 ft line, he should have stayed away from it---yup, not bad luck but a stupid play & 49ers deserved to be punished for it as they were. But now, the guy who walks on water in SF these days, Harbaugh makes the decision to have Williams again in OT receive the ball & he fumbles...Harbaugh should have used even Gore who does not run back kicks but the most important key is to maintain the ball & I would expect Williams to be nervous after the first stupid miscue.
Living in SF Bay area, I am too a Raider fan, except when they play the Pats and same for 49ers, I root for Pats first. But I agree with you that not calling that a fumble in that snowstorm game was egregious...almost as egregious as I said above in my first post:
Bradshaw stripped of the ball while upright causing a fumble at NY 20 yard line but refs called play stopped and in The Grasp and could not be challenged. Ridiculous calling in the grasp not to risk further injury as I saw him still upright and he was a running back not a QB so was trying to break lose & continue advancing.
Anyway, hope you are looking foward to Sunday's game as much as I and, hopefully, may there be no questionable calls determining the victor !!!