Should the Pats Protest the Game

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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    In response to DelGriffith's comment:
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    That ball was in no way whatsoever above the upright.  It was pulling/fading right. It was not straight on whatsoever. That's the whole point of why this is an issue.

    So, you're wrong. It was not called correctly and the fact is, he missed the kick.

     

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    Actually, it is you who is wrong....even though the pic someone posted above can't show the correct angle to make a call, I'd say that ball is clearly ABOVE the post. I don't care if it's fading, pulling, whatever...that ball is way above the post. You are basing your (opinion) from camera angles that are not straight on (or) uner the post. Calling it as some kind of "fact" is impossible. Get over it, it was close, and it didn't go our way.

     
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    I'd start by protesting the poor tackling technique of the Pats, the poor pass catching technique of the pats, I could go on.

     
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    Lets face it - he missed. When the kicker shanks one you don't give it to him over the upright.

    Watch the same kick from NO game earlier in the day and it was called a miss.

    Understandably, the ref probably called it good out of fear for his life.

    BB owes it to the fans to file a complaint.

     

     
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    He missed and everyone there knew it.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eju62GXyf8

     
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    simply solution to any lockout or strike - don't go to the games or watch them on TV. It's really the only way things will change. But of course, hardly anyone does that. Besides, once the regular refs are back, people will still complain just on different calls, etc.

     
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    first of all, that play is not reviewable...second of all, you guys are so ignorant, especially those who are posting those screenshots....hit pause one second before that pic and you could make the argument that it is clearly between the posts.  The ball in those screen shots is alread past the post two by about 10 feet, so the angle can be manipulated to make whatever case you want

    what does this screenshot below do for your argument:

     

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    In response to Ranger Dan and his big dog Dick's comment:
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    He missed and everyone there knew it.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eju62GXyf8

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    Good angle of it here, he missed it!

     
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    1.  Ravens fan.

    2.  Didn't watch the whole game.

    With that out of the way, there is no way for the replays the network showed to judge where the ball was when it crossed ther vertical plane of the upright.  Yes, it was wide by the time it hit the net, but you'd have to have a camera directly under the goal post looking straing up to make that judgement.  

    Incidently, that is where the referee who made the call was standing.

     
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    It's pretty pu**y to protest a game decided by a FG.  Pats should have put that game away bigtime.

    I'd rather see them protest their decision to run the ball on consecutive third and longs.

     
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    my problem is the "measurement" play.......how did they rule that a first down? where is the screen shot for that one?

     
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    the field goal call was the least of the problems i had with the refs......never seen so many defensive holding calls in one game, ever...and the offensive interference on edelman was a joke.

     
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    Defense doesn't gag, it's not an issue. Offense doesn't gag, it's not an issue.

    Conclusion: it's not an issue.

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    make sure you mention the blown calls in the Pats favor too though

     
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    Had to have been a record for holds in the modern game.  Ref just didn't know any other penalty.  

    I'll give Chris Collinsworth this:  he called this in the opening three minutes of that game.  Said it was going to get out of hand and the flags would start flying.  They did, but only on hold calls.

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    In response to DelGriffith's comment:
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    The ball clearly would have hit the upright.  Thanks for posting the wording of the rule because it shows us why they missed this call. That was not vertical whatsoever. It was fading at an angle to the right.

    It cannot be argued or denied. Add on the idea that they didn't at least review it, it makes the whole play bogus.

    The Pats should protest this game just to go on record that this play was incorrect. Doubtful with Kraft in charge and the lockout about money, but that's ridiculous. He missed the kick.

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    PROTEST WHAT?

    You just thanked nyjoseph for quoting the rule. Did you not read what he wrote.

    The rule states that if the ball passes over the upright, the outside of the post is the imaginary line for the ref's to go by. THIS means that if you think the ball would have hit the left or middle of the upright and bounced out (which is likely what would have happened), it is still a made field goal, because any part of the post except the outside of it is considered to be good.

    Now, with that in mind, go back and look at the picture that pcm put up and try to imagine that the ball is hooking toward the right.

    I hate the scab refs as much as anyone, and for many reasons but....this is not one of them. They got the call correct. They got many others wrong, but not this one.

    Don't panic though, this is gonna be one of the best Pats teams ever if they stay healthy.

    When all the offensive players have a chance to swallow McDaniels system, just watch what happens.

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-referees-baltimore-ravens-winning-field-goal-not-easy-call-092312

    Yes, that's by Mike Pereira, former VP of Officiating for the NFL, who's not particularly impressed with the replacement refs.

    His conclusion?  Not reviewable.  There is no backup strategy, the call on the field stands, no challenges, no reviews.  One man's eyes absolutely determine the call on that kick.

    With enough video angles I suspect it could actually be turned into a fairly accurate 3D model that might be conclusive, but that's certainly not going to happen in today's NFL.

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    Protest? We don't need no stinking protest. 

    We need a better team.

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    Until recently, MLB had no replay in place to determine fair or foul on HRs.  

    Should they switch to this model on FGs in the NFL?  

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    Move on.  Pats shouldn't have been in a position to lose the game on the last play.  Neither offense or defense delivered in 4th quarter.


    The refs are another issue--one that the Pats alone aren't going to resolve.  The evidence of their incompetence is available from a plethora of game tapes from around the NFL--if Goodell cares to review.

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    In response to DelGriffith's comment:
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    Serious question. I am not sure what good it will do, but at least they can go on record for a call that was not only incorrect for Baltimore to win the game, but it wasn't even reviewed under the 2:00 or less rule.

    What an absolute embarrassment for the NFL.   I thought the refs would be ok and they'd be able to mask some flaws, but this is an outrage for NFL fans.

    http://www.sbnation.com/2012/9/24/3380874/bill-belichick-ref-field-goal-patriots-ravens

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    No excuses. The game could have gone either way. The refs are the refs for BOTH teams Missy.

     
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    Re: Should the Pats Protest the Game

    If Kraft didn't protest spygate, he won't protest this.

     

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