Re: Show me rookie WRs who are awesome after 10 days please
posted at 9/15/2013 2:50 PM EDT
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to zbellino's comment:
Hey Ma6dragon. I don't think anyone here expects the rookies to play out-of-this-world. If they do, they are being unrealistic.
I think the debate is clustered around Brady yelling at Edelman (which everyone takes for Dobson) and their reaction to that.
And then some others voicing anger at the risking way NE assembled their roster this offseason: letting healthy proven players go, and replacing them with injury prone players, then not picking up veterans to take the heat off the younger players.
Every time one of those rookies is out there sweating, you need to blame managment for putting them in this situation.
When Julio Jones came in he was backed by Roddy White and Atlanta went out and even got a HOF vet TE to take the heat off the kid. He was option #3 or #4 in that passing offense. He wasn't thrust into a spot where he is option #1B or C or D around two other rookies, a backup slot, and a utility TE.
NE put all their chips in on Amendola being healthy (he isn't and is likely out 6 weeks out of the gate now) and Gronk being ready in time (he isn't either).
They'll get a bogey for the Hernandez thing. But even accounting for that ... adding Hernandez wouldn't work a miracle.
+1, this has been my feeling since the start of camp and I haven't changed that story since. It's not that they are rooks it's that rooks take time to develop. You need to put durbale vets around them to give them time to develop. Tossing them into the fire can hurt their development as much as it could help them. The worst part is they picked their durable vet in Sanders and went for the deal instead of the player. It's very similar to what they did to Goldson 2 years ago. A little extra money tossed at either and We'd have Sanders and Edelman along with Goldson and McCourty right now. I'd rather take the latter personally and not have to rely on rooks.
Towards the original poster: Show me rook WRs who were awesome their first year that weren't first round picks? We shouldn't be putting that much pressure on them to succeed this quickly out of the gate. They should have a full year with playing time before being given significant snaps. To think they can develop into #1 and #2 starters in their first year is just as foolish as thinking they would perform right out of the gate
I'd just add that I think the problem began last season or even the season before, when they failed to sufficiently address the lack of a decent x receiver once Moss's talents began to decline. This reminds me of having no effective back-up plan when Asante Samuel left or when Seymour was traded or when Branch was allowed to walk at the end of his first stint with the Pats. For all BB's many talents as a GM and team builder there are times when he seems to think he can coach himself out of gaping holes at key positions. I know it's hard to maintain quality at all positions given the salary cap and the limits of the draft . . . but still, sometimes it seems like we ignore developing problems until they become crises . . . or try to solve problems on the cheap and end up getting burned. Lloyd just wasn't a long-term solution at the X receiver spot . . . I was never very enamoured of that choice. I actually thought Garcon, though maybe over priced, would have been a better guy to take back then (yes, I know he was injured last year--but he doesn't have a history of those things like Amendola has). Garcon was a mature receiver who had demonstrated the ability to play with Manning in a complex offense. Lloyd was a known problem who got cut from every team he played for. And this offseason, paying Welker for another year would have been good insurance given all the other question marks. Going into a season with no proven player at a key position just seems very risky. I do think Amendola has the potential to be at least as good as Welker . . . but the injury history should have raised big red flags, and going into the season so dependent on a guy with that history is maybe imprudent.
We'll see . . . I hope it all works out and Amendola is back and the rookies develop into something good. But this is another high-risk approach to team-building with some real downside potential if things don't go right.