In Response to Re: Solder and Cannon Underwhelming....
[QUOTE]We must stop drinking kool-aid, I hate the crap anyway. We have serious issues at O line that will impact this teams ability to function on offense
. I'm gonna keep saying it, shame on solder for not getting stronger in the off season. He is getting beat up like a red headed step child. Cannon I'm thinking needs a bit more time. Bringing Light back ain't a bad idea. Get Waters in here now. If he's coming back he needs to be told look we need you now. Vollmer needs to play before I'm convinced his back is healthy.
Posted by NoMorePensionLooting[/QUOTE]
Listen to me here please...
I CAN-Not begin to understate just how critical regarding how well the play, and the ability to perform up the barest minimum of par, That NE's Offensive Line MUST perform to (and in particular, NE's 2 OTs), as NE hopes to go forward and afford themselves a viable shot to successful garner a Championship this season.~
And it's still tough even attempting to broach the subject of someone, or some positional grouping, on NE's Offense, playing in such an underwhelming and prone to such a high degree of underperformance that right now, is THIS easily exploitable by an opposing Defense.
There are some on here whom STILL continue to believe that there are SO few things that you do on 1 side of the football, which actually alter the play & affect the OTHER side of the football. THIS is as wrong as wrong can be within this team sport.
There are some on here whom STILL forward the notions that ANY and EVERY single Fan, Layperson, NON- NFL Coach or personell member, NEVER...EVER, On any single lone instance in question, KNOW or even are capable of conjuring up ANY slightly better answer to any of even the tiniest of specific problems at hand and issues that arise. Listen please: The mindset that those whom actually have the job title set hard in their executive office door, DO NOT Always, And On EVERY SINGLE OCCASSION, Unconditionally offer up THE single greatest solution to each and every single problem or issue which arises. The mindset that every single answer to every single one of the million issues which they come across and need to deal with on day-day basis, IS Not in each and every single circumstance, ALWAYS the singularly VERY best solution and to the very BEST degree each & every time, hands-down and bar-none, due to the fact that they have Under their name is a very important sounding job title. Right?
This belief: That Every answer...every draft pick...every move or non-move...every solution forwarded- EACH time=BEST 1 there is...BEST degree there is...No faltering or failing, Every trillion of specifics centered within every one of the millions of specific problems and issues which need to be adressed or those that just get addressed=Can never be bettered even in the slightest from any single one of us lil' peon no-nothings...right? < This...? Is F##k!NG MADNESS. ~
NE's OT play which is THIS poor, CAN and WILL, affect the following in a devasting way:
This EXCEPTIONALLY high degree of underperforming, will singlehandedly result in Belichick and McDaniels abandoning this amazingly diverse concept that they've come up and by every fact imaginable, That they hope to enact and deploy as NE's Main Offensive Focus going forward... This concept (5 OL, 1 TE, 1 #2TE/FB, 2 Possession-type WRs, 1 QB and 1 RB) of the multi-diverse schematic of personell groupings affording the greatest degree of the Bigger heavier unit concept and groupings beneficial to a very successful running game threat, WITH the greatest degree of the very same spread out passing attack weapons look at once, and in the same conceptual design.
TERRIBLE OT play on each ends (and it was bad...go back and watch, every one of those guys are either starters or the very 1st guy off the bench in his positional OL spot, whether Waters, mankins or Vollmer was there or not, It should NOT be THAT bad), -This continued level of such awful OL play, WILL result in BB and JMcD and TB being frustrated enough (and pretty justifiably so), To abandon this newer and far more multi-diverse ball-control and total gameplay control concept, IN favor of headin' back to the very tempting high-scoring shotgun gunslinger game w/ zero attempt to establish a viable running game threat, and/or within this scheme which lacks on it's behalf regardless (The result will be too great of a temptation to fall back on the Feast or famine reactive spread passing game offering ZERO situational help beneficial to both the O & D, based and heaped onto the full weight of the shoulders of your HOF QB)...
Over and over and over and over again, this results in A game design which NEVER wears out the opposing Defense (you're OL is RE-active in pass-protection, and even successful game drives driving the entire length of the football field, range oin total TOP time in the neighborhoods of anywhere from just 2-barely over 4 minutes taken off the clock). Your D is back on the field in HALF the time comparatively to forwarding the fully diverse Run + Passing Game multi-dimensional steadiness on O, and the opposing D is NEVER tired in the 2nd half.
You are attempting to gain a higher point total output (for further info: see the extreme ends of Capitalism and "net profit" ahead of any and every ideal, moral, or anything else on planet earth)- WHILE at once, taking away the threat and recognizable diversity of 1/2 of your total O Gameplay's ability to diversify (Run Vs Pass), You have NOTHING in terms of anything you've bothered to develop to fall back IF and when it ever fails you, You NEVER enact enough force or will to actually wear down the will of your opponent during the final end stages of the game, and you KILL the greatest number of situational help and ability to perform at the very best level THEY can in this team game, on the Defensive side of this total team sport (esp. as it relates to gameplay as it starts to develop further into the developing span of the game itself, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Q).
It results in a successful Regular Season, as you pile on the points against lesser tiered opponents, this alone (O pt. total) being enough to usually frsutarte a final "W" over them as the final whistle sounds... But come playoffs, and against far more complete teams on both sides of the ball, far more diverse teams in their diversified play threats on either side of the ball, against The best league defenses, and/or against Teams that play and tailor their gameplay which better situationally benefits BOTH sides of their team (O & D), IT FAILS... REGULARLY.~~~Here
(I never try to leave you without the specific details to hope to help the last of the heel-draggers, better understand...Although not sure that matters, because the benefits of actually offering up actual case-in-point detailed evidence has recently been called in to question):RE-Watch NE's O play in this Preseason Game #2, and key in on just 2 things
- The total time NE's QB has to drop back, and set himself in the pocket to comfortably look down the field in order to attempt a shot at a successful completion (yea...ALL of the starters OR not, It's about 1 ("Ahh") second...OR less. The end result will be MORE SHOTGUN, More propensity to pass, and WAY less of any diversity to offer a fuller run game, MORE of a run game, More of any worthy to be recognized, Run threat in an exceedingly less and less and ever less diverse Total O design and play.2
- just HOW much and HOW often (an absolutely UN-believable number of times), that NE's RBs (on running plays in preseason game #2) were already attempting to avoid contact, and/or getting hit with defenders making successful contact on them, BEHIND the LOS. It was UN-real...I watched through 3 quarters thus far on my DVR of the game, and I don't think I counted ONE TIME, when NE's RBs weren't either hit (oncce, twice, 3x) and/or adjusting their run IMMEDIATELY upon a defender breaking through and into the backfield (once, twice, 3x- these: PER RUN) to cause NE's RBs to HAVE to alter their immediate running angle. How NE's RBs even garned 1 positive yard ALL day on every single run play combined and in total, is beyond me. ~~~
Finally, this here:http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=320820017&period=1
^ I am offering you up the direct link to NE's Boxscore of yesterday's Eagles/NE Game, On The PLAY-BY-PLAY accounting of each drives by NE & Philly By 1st-4th Quarter.
Please...please, just f##k!ng TRY to get a clue on these things (or even just TRY to click on the link, o'kay?).~~~
Note these extremely Football day 1 for Beginners, things of note:
How NE's Defense started in their play.~~
Just HOW well and just HOW regularly they held Philadelphia to barely over a Minute or so, 3-6 play, UTTERLY Un-successful drives (esp. early in play).
Take particular regard to this 1 fact when NE fields a full Team on D- Sterling Moore will NOT be tasked with defending the opposing teams A#1 pass-catching option & threat. <2-3 BIG pass plays given up, 40 yarder, critical 3rd down, and a blown coverage to his unnmaned guy on another, + 1 Penalty giving Philly either a 3rd and long (or 4th-i.e. punt...I forget?), TO: A fresh set of downs once more (1st and 10...wherein NE subsequently immediately stopped them on D, after THIS new set of downs). Sterling Moore is a Pro Team #1 shutdown CB, the way and to the degree that Ellis Hobbs was NE's #1 shutdown 1st CB 1 season (A kid w/ decent skills & one who might be a nasty nickel CB, or a solid #2 CB sometime in the future...But NOT a guy who you'd wish to task at this present point in time, with shutting down any and every opposing team's #1 pass catching option).
FIELD POSITION: Despite what some have led you to believe, Your defense is NOT failing you, when they hold the opposing team to a 3 and out, and after your KR fumbles the ball (twice, 3x...WhoTH knows, not even sure we DIDN'T fumble a Punt or a kickoff in the total span of this preseason game), and/or your QB gets strip sacked/INT'ed (called back once I believe, but I still thought there was 1 other not reversed in NE's favor, which did result in a TO), and/or there is a TO by your O DEEP in the DEEPEST part of the opposing team's side of the field, giving them the ball back within 20-25 (and under) yards of their endzone. ~~
Your D held them to a Punt, and either A> Ya took the field for 1-2 plays and turned over the ball directly within p#ss!ng distance of their scoring spot, Or B> Ya never even afforded your Defenders even THIS, w/ fumbles on the actual PR itself...doing the exact same.
^ This is NOT a failure by your Defense, after they had held them THAT solid, forced a punt, and then got burnt by either leaving the field for 1/2 a second and/or not leaving the field AT ALL, while being further asked to hold the O once more, upon being suddenly tasked w/ stopping them w/in 25 yards or under from the opposing side's endzone.
Next- (and I beg some of you to even 1 time just try to attempt to look at these things with open eyes)- ~~
SEE If and How, NE's Offensive looks and O play design looks (i.e. number of shotgun plays and/or greater number of pass plays), were IN-creased (ya can base it on 1 simple look-over...trust me), Upon NE (and as it relates directly here, upon NE's OTs playing SO bad w/ the QB under center- not affording him enough time to drop back and pass, while not even being capable of blocking good for the benefit of the run game- RESULT: More pass plays en masse, and more hikes while in the shotgun, in particular);~~
NOW, SEE whether This Did or whether this Did Not, affect NE's time length of their drive times in total, as the events of this past gameplay carried on into the further 2nd-4th Q's of this game; Succesful Drives OR NOT...Did this greater emphasis on the shotgun passing game, Result in a Greater OR Lesser Amount of Total TOP every time NE's Offense took the field for a series as the game continued to unfold by Quarter?~~
LAST, SEE Whether or NOT, NE's Defense would be MORE likely to hold the other team ("hold them" on series NOT when NE's D forced a TO on downs, only to have a fumbled punt/1 play strip sack, resulted in them heading back <or not even leaving the field> in order to stop the opposing team within 20 yards of their endzone), OR NOT hold the opposing team to Very quick and Very solid, stops w/ such little gain in such little time, AT and During Instances based upon HOW long (or if at all, after an Offensive turnover, beit O itself immediately, and/or in the return game)- That NE's Offensive took the field, in the O's TOP, play number count and play drive total time, distance, and overall success (or not) by NE's Offensive side of the football.
^ Lemme tell'ya...It is disturbingly plain-as-day, In-Your-Face, Easy as EASY gets, to see the direct correlation to how 1 side of your team's D and/or O design AND how 1 side of your D and O's game success OR not by the series that they take the field of play with-IN that design they have deployed and attempted to execute successfully on any individual Offensive and/or Defensive series wherein they take the field of play (either successfully or unsuccessfully), has direct correlations that affect the other side...