Some Thoughts (Sopoaga)

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    +1

     

     
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    Yes Complimentary is the word.

    Plattooning between Jones on pass/1rst down and Sopaoaga on obvous run situations is almost like having Vince in there..

    Except for taking 2 rosters spots where Vince used to take one  I think it is a wash with these balancing traits:

    Less pocket collapse

    Less range on running plays

    Better sack potential (from Jones)

    The opposing offensive line has to switch gears more.

    Mostly I consider Sopaoaga the same category as Vince but not quite as good in every department and Jones although much less of a plug than Vince, has better mobility and quickness than Vince (although we all know fo a bigman Vince is amazingly mobile).

    All in all as long as the other team does not do a no huddle to keep the wrong situational player on the field then this will work out just fine.

     

     

     
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    he is an older, healthier Kyle Love

     
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    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:
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    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    he is an older, healthier Kyle Love

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    No, he's not, troll.  He's clearly a much better technician than Love. Sopoanga has success as a 3-4 NT and is easily as good or petter than Love in the 4-3 DT role.

    Leave it to you to try to sell the board on the idea that an UDFA who lost weight, is unemployed, regressed, did not play the 3-4 NT well with technique, is somehow on the same level as this guy we just picked up.

    The fact is, BB just added a guy with 3-4 NT experience, which frees up guys like a Vellano who can play DE along with Tommy Kelly (3-4 experience in Oakland in 2005 and 2006).

    This is the stuff (versatility) that BB looks for.  

    What's I've seen from Vellano so far has been superior to what Love showed here. First, Vellano has looked pretty good in the 3-4 when Love never did. Second, Vellano is a better penetrator than what Love provided. Love was a steady player, but anyone can look better than they appear next to Vince.

    Vellano and Jones are ROOKIES without Vince.

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    I didnt mean today...he is Kyle Love from 2011. Both play the 2 gap very well, both do not play 1 gap well at all. both will get zero penetration/pressure, but hold up well against the run. if he has anything left in the tank, he is a good alternative to Vellano/Jones. the word out of Philly was did he have anything left at 32 years old?

     
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    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    he is an older, healthier Kyle Love

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    Dare we say more talented? 

     
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    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    he is an older, healthier Kyle Love

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    an older, healthier, extremely more talented Kyle Love.

    A poor-man's VW.

     
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    In response to Getzo's comment:
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    he is an older, healthier Kyle Love

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    Dare we say more talented? 

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    Took the words right out of my mouth...!

     
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    Mike (Beantown)

    Love the insight Mike, and while I know you're going to touch on it in your opening words (which I love btw) what can you tell us about Sopoaga? Also, speaking of the Dline, when do you think Kelly plays, is Armstead doing anything right now? and is Talib playing this week lol. Sorry for the barrage of questions!

    Mike   (11:03 AM)

    Thanks Mike. Great day in Boston. On Sopoaga, he's like a more experienced Kyle Love, with a better skill level. I watched the first quarter of last week's Eagles-Giants game just to get a feel for him. He's a hold-the-point nose tackle whose job will be done if he can occupy blockers and keep the LBs free to make plays. He should help the Patriots. I don't buy some of the stuff that I've read in Philly that he has nothing left. Not based on what I saw. ...

     
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    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:
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    In response to rkarp's comment:
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    he is an older, healthier Kyle Love

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    No, he's not, troll.  He's clearly a much better technician than Love. Sopoanga has success as a 3-4 NT and is easily as good or petter than Love in the 4-3 DT role.

    Leave it to you to try to sell the board on the idea that an UDFA who lost weight, is unemployed, regressed, did not play the 3-4 NT well with technique, is somehow on the same level as this guy we just picked up.

    The fact is, BB just added a guy with 3-4 NT experience, which frees up guys like a Vellano who can play DE along with Tommy Kelly (3-4 experience in Oakland in 2005 and 2006).

    This is the stuff (versatility) that BB looks for.  

    What's I've seen from Vellano so far has been superior to what Love showed here. First, Vellano has looked pretty good in the 3-4 when Love never did. Second, Vellano is a better penetrator than what Love provided. Love was a steady player, but anyone can look better than they appear next to Vince.

    Vellano and Jones are ROOKIES without Vince.

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    Didn't you hear? rkarp has sources.  HAHA!

     
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    why would the eagles give this guy up for so little if he is any good- to move up ten spots in a late round-  it doesnt add up

     
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    why would the eagles give this guy up for so little if he is any good- to move up ten spots in a late round-  it doesnt add up




    They have a younger, cheaper guy they drafted this season.

     
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    [QUOTE]Mike (Beantown)

    Love the insight Mike, and while I know you're going to touch on it in your opening words (which I love btw) what can you tell us about Sopoaga? Also, speaking of the Dline, when do you think Kelly plays, is Armstead doing anything right now? and is Talib playing this week lol. Sorry for the barrage of questions!

    Mike   (11:03 AM)

    Thanks Mike. Great day in Boston. On Sopoaga, he's like a more experienced Kyle Love, with a better skill level. I watched the first quarter of last week's Eagles-Giants game just to get a feel for him. He's a hold-the-point nose tackle whose job will be done if he can occupy blockers and keep the LBs free to make plays. He should help the Patriots. I don't buy some of the stuff that I've read in Philly that he has nothing left. Not based on what I saw. ...

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    So, RKrap read Reiss and then came here to give us a portion of what Reiss is regurgitating from scouts. lmao

    RKrap exposed.

    RKrap left out the "more experienced and more talent" part.

     

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    But the Reiss info was from todays insider chat, which you are too cheap to subscribe. If I got the info from Reiss chat TODAY how did I post on BDC YESTERDAY;

    1. Re: done deal for Eagles NT

      posted at 10/29/2013 4:09 PM EDT

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      Sal Pal says he is a bigger, stronger and healthier Kyle Love..Will most likely step into a starting spot withy Vellano rotating in as the 3rd guy....I have to assume either Armstead is simply not going to play this year, or is down to 260-270 lbs..

       
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    harvey bludgeoned yet again!

     
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    harvey bludgeoned yet again!

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    +1000

     

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