Steven Jackson coming to NE?

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    Re: Steven Jackson coming to NE?

    There is only one way this happens imo.  The Rams cut Jackson and draft T-Rich.  S Jax takes a pay cut to come play here.  I don't see it.
     
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    [QUOTE]i wouldn't waste a pick on him. he's getting too old and isn't corey dillon. they should use their picks on defense, defense and more defense, then maybe a wr to develop.
    Posted by sporter81[/QUOTE]

    Respectfully disagree, at least with your 1st statement. Jackson is every bit as good as Dillion was after 7 seasons. I think he would make our offense too unpredictable to defend against and would greatly improve our chances of winning another SB before Tom Brady retires.

    Jackson....
    2011 28 STL RB 39 15 15 260 1145 5 47 4.4 76.3 17.3 42 333 7.9 1 50 2.8 22.2 1478 6 2 6
    Career         115 103 2138 9093 52 59 4.3 79.1 18.6 369 3003 8.1 8 64 3.2 26.1 12096 60 23 73


    Dillion......
    2003 29 CIN rb 28 13 11 138 541 2 39 3.9 41.6 10.6 11 71 6.5 0 14 0.8 5.5 612 2 0 5

    Dillion had about 8,000 yards rushing and was a year older at the time of our trade. Jackson is also a better receiver then Dillion.

    I do agree we should focus on defense in the draft but imo trading #48 or 62 for Jackson would benefit us the most in this off season and would be our best chance at winning a SB.






     
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    In response to "Re: Steven Jackson coming to NE?": [QUOTE]I'm just not sold on BB going with 2 unproven rbs ...I do believe we will add a veteran RB who is better than the Law Firm...I do feel strongly about this. Posted by null[/QUOTE] Ya, that's why he is looking at vets like grant and Hightower, but not going after Jackson, too old, too expensive and injury prone
     
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    ^??? Jackson is 28 years old, 2 years younger then Dillion was when we traded a 2nd rder for him and I am willing to bet he would restructure in the event of a trade.

    He has only missed 2 games in the last 3 seasons while averaging over 300 carries per year. Thats while running for a Rams team that saw lots of men in the box.

    Jackson = Tough. Thats what we need. Send the 2nd please!

    Rushing Receiving


    Year Age Tm
    No. G GS Att Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    2004 21 STL rb 39 14 3 134 673 4 48 5.0 48.1 9.6 19 189 9.9 0 28 1.4 13.5 862 4 1 5
    2005 22 STL RB 39 15 15 254 1046 8 51 4.1 69.7 16.9 43 320 7.4 2 27 2.9 21.3 1366 10 3 9
    2006* 23 STL RB 39 16 16 346 1528 13 59 4.4 95.5 21.6 90 806 9.0 3 64 5.6 50.4 2334 16 4 19
    2007 24 STL RB 39 12 12 237 1002 5 54 4.2 83.5 19.8 38 271 7.1 1 37 3.2 22.6 1273 6 5 8
    2008 25 STL RB 39 12 11 253 1042 7 56 4.1 86.8 21.1 40 379 9.5 1 53 3.3 31.6 1421 8 5 8
    2009* 26 STL RB 39 15 15 324 1416 4 58 4.4 94.4 21.6 51 322 6.3 0 38 3.4 21.5 1738 4 2 8
    2010* 27 STL RB 39 16 16 330 1241 6 42 3.8 77.6 20.6 46 383 8.3 0 49 2.9 23.9 1624 6 1 10
    2011 28 STL RB 39 15 15 260 1145 5 47 4.4 76.3 17.3 42 333 7.9 1 50 2.8 22.2 1478 6 2 6
    Career         115 103 2138 9093 52 59 4.3 79.1 18.6 369 3003 8.1 8 64 3.2 26.1 12096 60 23 7
     
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    Re: Steven Jackson coming to NE?

    If this is somehow true, Steven Jackson is a better deal than Forte

    He still has skills, but due to down years taking beatings as the only good player in St. Louis, he's put up lower numbers

    He'd be a great value for a second round pick
     
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    if i am wrong i will gladly eat crow while watching the pats win a SB. but no way does this happen
     
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    [QUOTE]This is strictly a rumor...but I'm pumped if true..If Rams get Trent Richardson on draft day...we will be sending one of our #2 picks for S Jackson ....this is just a rumor but it has me pretty pumped up if ee do this....Go Pats
    Posted by null[/QUOTE]

         I don't think that the Pats will, or should, trade one of their second rounders for the 29 year old Jackson. The 126th overall pick may suffice. Remember, Jackson makes $7mil. per season. For cap reasons, the Rams won't have many potential trading partners. Pittsburgh doesn't have the money. Cleveland and Tampa are rebuilding. A young team like Cincy probably won't be interested. The NY teams and Dallas might have some interest, but have cap issues.  
     
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    [QUOTE]^??? Jackson is 28 years old, 2 years younger then Dillion was when we traded a 2nd rder for him and I am willing to bet he would restructure in the event of a trade. He has only missed 2 games in the last 3 seasons while averaging over 300 carries per year. Thats while running for a Rams team that saw lots of men in the box. Jackson = Tough. Thats what we need. Send the 2nd please!
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]
    Age is not what matters when you evaluate RBs.  Carries shows the mileage.  When the Pats acquired Dillon he had fewer than 1900 carries to his career; he had one great year, and then dropped off a cliff.  That's what happens to running backs at this point in their career. S-Jax is about at the point in his career that Dillon was AFTER the 2004 season (his first in NE).

    It would be worth taking a flier on him for a reasonable cost (if St Louis releases him, and he's willing to settle for 2-3 million per year); but he is very unlikely to come at a reasonable cost.  A second rounder plus 14 millon over 2 years for a back with 2000+ carries?  Not gonna happen.
     
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    No thanks.  I'd rather spend the 63rd pick on Chris Polk from Washington if you're thinking of addressing the RB depth chart.  Jackson is a 30 year old RB who's not happy making $7 million/year and with a ton of mileage on his tires. 

     
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    [QUOTE]No thanks.  I'd rather spend the 63rd pick on Chris Polk from Washington if you're thinking of addressing the RB depth chart.  Jackson is a 30 year old RB who's not happy making $7 million/year and with a ton of mileage on his tires. 
    Posted by ShiningWizard[/QUOTE]

         Agreed. I'd spend the 126th pick on him, though.
     
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    I think you have all lost your way. 

    Put Steven Jackson in a Patriot uniform taking hand offs from Tom Brady with Gronk,WW,Loyd,Hernandez and the rest and this offense can win us a SB.

    Dillion at 30 = 1,500 yards and 12 tds in NE's offense.

    Jackson at 28 coming to the Pats will surely NOT face 8 in the box and will destroy defense's all day long.
     
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    [QUOTE]I think you have all lost your way.  Put Steven Jackson in a Patriot uniform taking hand offs from Tom Brady with Gronk,WW,Loyd,Hernandez and the rest and this offense can win us a SB. Dillion at 30 = 1,500 yards and 12 tds in NE's offense. Jackson at 28 coming to the Pats will surely NOT face 8 in the box and will destroy defense's all day long.
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]

    I think an important question you need to answer is how much are you willing to pay him and are you trying to trade for him (in which case what pick are you giving up) or do you hope he gets cut?
     
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    This same sentiment is now in Welker trade in the works thread....
     
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    Were not trading Welker. The wild card is Kraft.  Welker and Brady sell tickets. Welker is a fan favorite and if Kraft dumps him that wont look good.

    I think Jackson has a few good years left behind a good line. He would fit in the Pats O. He can catch and he needs to be respected when he is in the back field. The only way he comes is for a low round pick or as a FA. If winning and the playoffs are one of his desires then he would consider coming to us. Don't count the Bengals out either. They dumped Benson and got Benny pretty reasonable. RB by comittee is the way of the NFL now. Benny and Jackson in the back field with Gresham and AJ Green catching passes they would contend against Balt and Pitt IMO.
     
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    [QUOTE]In response to "Re: Steven Jackson coming to NE?": Ya, that's why he is looking at vets like grant and Hightower, but not going after Jackson, too old, too expensive and injury prone
    Posted by Brady2Moss07[/QUOTE]

    I don't know the ages of Hightower or Grant  but I have had them on my fantasy teams ... so dont talk about injury prone? Jackson is  definitely a grade above them. Grant a run back   , Hightower realy a third down back.. Jackson 3 downs.
     
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         The Rams are claiming that they have no plans to trade Jackson: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-dismiss-rumors-of-jackson-trade/article_b684bf02-1b8e-59b6-adb9-0a8a00d73265.html
     
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    [QUOTE]Were not trading Welker. The wild card is Kraft.  Welker and Brady sell tickets. Welker is a fan favorite and if Kraft dumps him that wont look good. I think Jackson has a few good years left behind a good line. He would fit in the Pats O. He can catch and he needs to be respected when he is in the back field. The only way he comes is for a low round pick or as a FA. If winning and the playoffs are one of his desires then he would consider coming to us. Don't count the Bengals out either. They dumped Benson and got Benny pretty reasonable. RB by comittee is the way of the NFL now. Benny and Jackson in the back field with Gresham and AJ Green catching passes they would contend against Balt and Pitt IMO.
    Posted by Philskiw1[/QUOTE]

    So was Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law, and Willie Mcginest....Mike Vrabel etc... WW is part of the team. I don't think it matters to the GM 1 way or the other if the fans like him. If BB cared about what the fans thought then he would still be in Cleveland winning 8 games per year. Kraft does not over ride BB.
     

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