Re: Tavon Wilson S
posted at 4/27/2012 9:25 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Tavon Wilson S
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Tavon Wilson S : Mankins was discussed during the draft as being a 5th at best, most likely a 7th or udfa. not a 4th. The story of the 4th came later as that's where the raiders had him pegged. Mankins was a 3rd/4th on draft boards. It's easy to have revisionist history after the fact.
Posted by jrmccook[/QUOTE]
Ha-ha, What'ru KIDDING me?!? LOL, No He wasn't, haha...omg-
2005...Here's just 1 that we'll do- SI.com
Three-year starter awarded All-Conference and All-America honors as a senior. Missed the 2003 season after tearing his right knee. Played left tackle at Fresno State.POSITIVES:
Intelligent and athletic blocker who can be used at several spots on the offensive line. Bends his knees, plays with leverage and patience. Stays square, adjusts to defenders and effectively uses blocking angles in pass protection. Technically sound, displays solid footwork sliding laterally and effective with his hands. Mentally on top of his game and works well with teammates. Displays the ability to block in motion and effectively uses body positioning to wall defenders from the action.NEGATIVES:
Lacks the top size for a blind-side tackle. Not a dominant drive blocker and gets minimal movement from run blocks.ANALYSIS:
A hard-working lineman who plays with great intelligence, Mankins has been very productive on the college level. Performed well at the Senior Bowl at guard and significantly improved his draft stock.PROJECTION: Mid Third Round
Now, I'll find Vollmer...2009 I'm pretty sure-
Here we go:
BIOGRAPHY: Two-year starter awarded all-Conference honors as a senior.
POSITIVES: "Tall, athletic tackle with outstanding size and growth potential. Stays square, strong at the point and controls defenders once he gets his hands on them. Blocks with a wide base, keeps his feet moving, and patient in pass protection. Effectively bends his knees, displays above-average movement skills, and turns opponents off the ball run blocking. Makes great use of body positioning and seals defenders from the action."
NEGATIVES: "Not fluid in space, and lacks top footwork sliding out to protect the edge. Mechanical and a bit stiff. Struggled with back injuries in the past."
ANALYSIS: "Vollmer is a well-sized blocker with a large degree of upside potential. He showed improvement in his game the past two seasons, and he should only get better as he physically matures. Playing left tackle at Houston, Vollmer projects to the strong side, and he could surprise in the NFL if he stays healthy."
PROJECTION: Fourth Round ~
There ya go...I live off draft sites- Here? Same projected draft day big board ranking at Selection #1 in 2009, as they are in 2012. Google it and take a look-see yourself...
Btw- Yea, 2 Round Reaches ARE wastes of your picks... For every Logan Mankins you give me, I WILL offer you 5 or more absolute frivilous wastes of higher picks on lesser talent that NE STILL could've acquired later on if they so wished- You gimme a Sebastian Vollmer + 1 Logan mankins? I'll throw ya a George Bussey, a Jake Ingram, a Brandon Tate, or a Terrance Wheatley, or a Kevin O'Connel, or a Jonathin Wilhite, a Clint Oldenburg, a Justin Rogers, or a Mike Richardson, a Jermaine Cunningham, a Justice Hairston, or a Garret Mills, or a Dan Stevenson, or a....=Each AND All- 2 Round Reaches (lol, 3 from the same draft too) of lesser quality of talent that'cha could've solidified down the line at a lesser draft price, While ALSO picking up better rated prospects in Rds 2-6, with FAR greater odds of pro level success.
And we're talkin' mostly "only" a 2-3 Round Reach... This? This? C'mon...call it what it is. Unless he becomes an ALL-PRO...and I eat my words to THAT degree, This IS exemplifies to a "T", gross wastes of opportunity.