Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

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    Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    I read through a conversation between Mike Reiss and Tedy Bruschi regarding the Patriots. As much as I love Tedy, I just hate his role in the media world. He's consistently negative - I'd like to think that he's being told what to say. There were even times in this conversation where Mike would try to direct the topic back to a positive tone, but Tedy wouldn't go along.... what have you done, Tedy? Aside from his last statement, everything was pretty negative. Maybe he's just saying what he has been told to say, and then he threw in his own, personal opinion at the end.... who knows.

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    Every week during the season, former Patriots linebacker Tedy Bruschi and Mike Reiss break down the Patriots' upcoming game, but before getting to the season-opener against the Bengals, the two are looking at the team's preseason and how the roster has taken shape:

    Mike: Tedy, it's great to be back for another season with the "Breakdown". We'll also have a weekly podcast together this year, which is another way to communicate with visitors to the site. For this "Breakdown", I'll just start with some quick thoughts on the Patriots. I think the offense has potential to be one of the best in the NFL. The defense, on the other hand, has quite a few question marks.

    Tedy: In my opinion, this preseason couldn't have gone any worse for the New England Patriots. It started off on the wrong foot with Logan Mankins not reporting to camp and he is still AWOL. The Nick Kaczur experiment at left guard failed miserably with a severe back injury. You lose cornerback Leigh Bodden as he's put on injured reserve. Defensive end Ty Warren is put on IR. That's three legitimate starters and then you make it four with Mankins. One of the main goals in the preseason is to stay healthy and keep your team intact going into the season opener. The Patriots don't have that now.

     

     

    Mike: You could also add reserve safety Brandon McGowan in there as well, as he's out for the year with a torn pectoral muscle. The biggest question I have right now with the defense is not the pass rush, but its ability to stop the run. There have been a lot of changes in the front seven. One thing you can generally count on with a Bill Belichick defense is that it will be sturdy against the run, but I don't think we can say that right now. Will Gerard Warren make the transition to the team's scheme at left end? Can Mike Wright hold up at right end? Is Tully Banta-Cain strong enough against the run? Will the starter at outside linebacker on the other side hold up against the run?

    Tedy: In the preseason, one of the things you want is to execute in all phases at a level that makes you content that you've made progress. Going into the season opener, you want to feel like you're fielding a team that can compete. Right now, defensively, with the injuries and the youth and the way they looked against the New York Giants in the final game of the preseason, this defense has a long way to go. When the Giants come at you with plays that aren't too complex, but just test your fundamentals, and you can't execute those fundamentals, you could be in trouble. A simple reverse play. A simple tight end pass to the flat that is wide open. A simple off-tackle run. These are plays that should be going for 3-5 yards, but they end up being big plays. That's when you know you're not executing the way you should.

    Mike: On the flip side, it was easy to be impressed with the offense in the preseason. I thought the passing game looked sharp, with the integration of the tight ends giving the unit a more complete look. I also thought the running game was effective, thinking back to the third-and-short against the Giants that Fred Taylor converted with a strong situational run behind Sammy Morris. To me, a good running team is one that gets two yards when it needs one. I think they've built some momentum in that area.

    Tedy: Tom Brady and the passing offense looks like it will be OK. I still wonder at the running back position. Right now, the Patriots are a team that passes to set up the run. The development of the tight ends is good. Overall, with what looks like problems defensively, this offense is going to have to score points. From a Brady perspective, you get nervous having him drop back time and time again when there are some young players protecting him.

    Mike: Few could say that the Patriots defense inspired confidence in those final two preseason games.

    Tedy: Right now, this defense has a lot of unproven youth. Then there are some players in the later parts of their career that are being counted on. How good can Gerard Warren be at the 5-technique defensive end spot? They brought in Damione Lewis and hoped he could provide some depth there, but he's no longer on the roster. Mike Wright, up to this point in his career, has never been an every-down player. It looks like they're asking him to do that. When you have unproven players providing depth, it magnifies an injury like Ty Warren's. There's too much of a dropoff between Ty Warren and the next player. You have big questions at outside linebacker. And can Tully Banta-Cain produce like he did last year, with 10 sacks for the second year in a row? Those are some big question marks.

    Mike: We often say that reading into the preseason is dangerous, but after watching the 3-4 defense get sliced up by the Rams and Giants, it made me wonder if they should try something else.

     

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    Tedy: I thought the exact same thing. All we have to go by now is what we've seen. And the last two games what we've seen is a Rams offense that had more than 90 plays, and then against the Giants in the final preseason game, all I wanted to focus on was the opening drive. That's really the team's focus in that game and the question "Would they answer from last week?" After what Coach Belichick said about the Rams game, of course the starters were going to play. And they didn't respond on that opening drive. So I see a lot of question marks. You look at the defensive roster and circle the players who you know are going to get the job done, and I have two -- Vince Wilfork and Jerod Mayo. They've done it consistently. I still want to see another year from Brandon Meriweather before he gets put in that category. He made the Pro Bowl last year because of an injury situation, so does he think he arrived, or will he work to continue to get better? It's easier to make the Pro Bowl now. That's no longer a measuring stick.

    Mike: Tedy, rookie Brandon Spikes has emerged quickly at your old position. What have been some of your impressions of what you've seen?

    Tedy: He's obviously impressed the coaching staff to emerge as a starter and that's a tribute to the camp he had and the player he is. He's supposed to be very instinctive and that's what you need to be at the inside linebacker position. His challenge is only about to grow. As the regular season arrives and teams start game-planning, the defense changes and there are adjustments that change from week to week, sometimes day to day. So for example, coaches might say on Wednesday, "This adjustment is how we're going to attack a certain formation." Then on Thursday the coaches might find that the adjustment is no longer applicable, so you have to be on your toes and communicate adjustments to the outside linebackers and safeties. It's going to be very difficult. When Jerod Mayo was a rookie, he was sandwiched between me and Mike Vrabel. We let him play and we could make adjustments as he learned. Now Mayo is in a position where he is comfortable enough to help Spikes. It's a mental process and you have to think very quickly.

    Mike: One of the surprising developments to me from the preseason is that 34-year-old Fred Taylor looks like the lead running back. At this stage of his career, he will no longer be a workhorse, but at least initially, I expect him to get the bulk of the carries.

    Tedy: I don't think the running game is going to be a huge threat from this team. If you're an opposing defense, you don't look at them and say "I have to buckle up my chinstrap, here they come." That's not who they are. And when the Patriots attempt to do that, they know that's not who they are. They are about the passing offense. Whether it's Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris or Kevin Faulk, I think you can feel comfortable with them at running back. It's clear from the lack of playing time that Laurence Maroney received that the coaches aren't high on him now. Still, this will be about the pass -- Tom Brady throwing for 4,000 yards, Randy Moss vying for the league lead, Wes Welker's return to health. I would still worry about the offensive line because Logan Mankins' holdout sent a ripple effect through the entire offensive line. You had Kaczur out of position and that might have contributed to his injury, because you are absorbing contact from a different position. You lose Kaczur and now the tackle depth is hurt and you're also down to your third choice at left guard. You also have to ask if Stephen Neal can stay healthy, as he's had some health issues in the past.

    Mike: I think you're right Tedy, but why shouldn't the Patriots be more of an offense where defenses say "We have to buckle our chinstraps and here they come"?

    Tedy: I think defenders probably want them to run more, because every time Sammy Morris gets a carry, or Kevin Faulk gets a carry, it's one less pass attempt to Randy Moss and Wes Welker. The best players on the team are clearly Moss, Welker and Brady. As an offense, you want your best players to have the ball. The more passes they throw to the tight ends, the more times they hand it off, a defender will be saying "Great, they're not going to Moss 40 yards down the field, or Welker on an option route that he can turn into 20 yards."

    Mike: I remember we were at the ESPNBoston.com draft party at Gillette Stadium in April and you mentioned that Bill Belichick was still searching for next Mark Bavaro at tight end. You nailed that one. It looks like Rob Gronkowski, at 6-foot-6, 265 pounds, could be that big, physical, fast tight end that Belichick has been seeking.

    Tedy: There has been good and bad with Gronkowski. The good is that he's a big, strong, physical guy with great hands. You saw how he could be a threat down in the red zone. The bad was seen right before he caught that touchdown pass against the New York Giants. The play before, he cut off a "7" route to the back left pylon of the end zone. Brady threw it there, thinking that he would be there. So that's where you see he's still a rookie. You don't quit running routes. He will develop over his rookie season, picking up the intricacies of the offense, which is difficult at the tight end position. You have to know pass routes and blocking schemes from different positions -- offset from the line, on the line of scrimmage, combo with the offensive tackle, pulling back across the line of scrimmage to trap a defensive lineman. It's one of the most difficult positions to learn.

    Mike: Let's also touch on special teams, where the return game looks like it will get a boost from Brandon Tate. Special teams coach Scott O'Brien said earlier in the preseason that the kickoff return unit was one area he'd like to see improvement.

    Tedy: Special teams can be an X-factor that helps them this year. We saw after the Giants scored, they got a huge kickoff return and that made it a short field, to set up the offense for a score. Also, Stephen Gostkowski is one of the best kickers. He deserves every penny of his contract extension. That's why I drafted him in my fantasy league.

    Mike: Another hot topic this offseason has been the coaching staff, with no official coordinators.

    Tedy: Offensively, Bill O'Brien looks like the unnamed coordinator. You could tell during the preseason who was calling the shots and who Brady was talking to. Defensively, second in command to Belichick looks like Matt Patricia. He appears to be the one who is consulting with Bill on the sidelines, making adjustments, and wearing the headset and communicating with players through the coach-to-player communication device. So he looks like the unnamed defensive coordinator right now.

    Mike: Let's wrap it up, Tedy, and we'll come back later this week with a "Breakdown" specifically on the opening game against the Bengals. I've predicted a 10-6 season for the Patriots.

    Tedy: From my experience, I've been on teams before where you look terrible in the preseason and come out gangbusters in the regular season. Looking at the Patriots this preseason, are there things to be worried about? I'd say "Yes, there are." But perspective is important, too. There is a different tempo from preseason to regular season and playing four quarters. That's different than playing a quarter or a quarter and a half in a preseason game. There have been games where I've been on a team that played terrible in the first quarter, but by the fourth quarter it was a victory. Based on what's out there now, what's been shown, I expect the Patriots to be well coached and fundamentally sound. If you give the coaching staff this time to prepare, as well as some veteran players, it's plenty of time to address any type of problems they may have on the field. I anticipate a successful season.

     

     

     

    Tedy Bruschi played 13 seasons for the New England Patriots and is a member of the franchise's 50th anniversary team. Mike Reiss is the Patriots blogger for ESPNBoston.com. You can reach Mike by leaving a message in his mailbag.

     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Or another way to look at it is he might be an Honest Abe.
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Tell me one thing Bruschi said here that is not true. He has better insight then any of us. IMO. Bruschi is telling it like he sees it.


    "Based on what's out there now, what's been shown, I expect the Patriots to be well coached and fundamentally sound. If you give the coaching staff this time to prepare, as well as some veteran players, it's plenty of time to address any type of problems they may have on the field. I anticipate a successful season."

    He pointed out the problems in the preseason and then said what he thinks will happen. This article made me feel better about this season.
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Two things I thought:

    1) I agreed with every part of his assessment for the most part.  It's not negative, it's the truth.  The only part I disagreed with was getting on Gronk for missing 1 route.

    2) If he shows the littlest bit of excitment for the Pats, I can see a lot of viewers getting on him for being a Pats apologist.  So he probably just tries to be fair analytically.
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Well, I just think he's being objective. If he is a bit negative about the defense, can you blame him? Myself, I haven't seen too many positive things from the D! Sure, a few plays here and there, but too many are recalled due to penalties, and too many big plays slip by them. And the O-line is also a concern. Brady is going to need protection to be able to hit Randy 50 yards downfield! And he did mention that he'd seen teams look sloppy in the preseason yet come out shooting. As I remember they didn't exactly shine in August of 03 and 04! I think the guy is just telling it like it is!
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    I kinda sorta agree with the OP.  My rationale:

    He did speak the truth in what he said, but it wasn't until the very end where he offered anything positive.  He seemed to pick out everything negative and failed to speak anything positive unless prompted to do so by Reiss.  So yeah, his observations were spot on, but he only observed what's wrong, not what's right.  He somewhat recovered at the end though.  It's not like there were no good things to say about the team's preseason that could have been said without being prodded.  Almost everything positive came after a Reiss prod.  Maybe that was part of the script.

    Bruschi is one of my all-time favorite Pats, but I also thought he's taken on a somewhat critical twist.
     
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    "Tell me one thing Bruschi said here that is not true. He has better insight then any of us. IMO. Bruschi is telling it like he sees it." agreed!

    Many "true fans" on this board seem to confuse negativity with the truth. There is a difference. Tedy is pretty refreshing given that "analysts" like Tony Dungy are total homers and apologists for their former teams. 

    Again, Bruschi is not saying anything that the naked eye can't see. And he's allowing for the possibility the Pats could overcome these obstacles and have a strong year. 

    Tedy would definitely be considered a troll by some in this forum who are confused as to what a troll is. A troll is someone who posts to generate an emotional reaction and move a conversation off topic. Trolls also hit the same point of view over and over again and don't change their views or agenda. If we can stay on topic and talk football we should be ok here, some will be more positive, some more skeptical, and we can handle that.
     
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    [QUOTE]I read through a conversation between Mike Reiss and Tedy Bruschi regarding the Patriots. As much as I love Tedy, I just hate his role in the media world. He's consistently negative - I'd like to think that he's being told what to say. There were even times in this conversation where Mike would try to direct the topic back to a positive tone, but Tedy wouldn't go along.... what have you done, Tedy? Aside from his last statement, everything was pretty negative. Maybe he's just saying what he has been told to say, and then he threw in his own, personal opinion at the end.... who knows. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Every week during the season, former Patriots linebacker  Tedy Bruschi  and Mike Reiss break down the Patriots' upcoming game, but before getting to the season-opener against the Bengals, the two are looking at the team's preseason and how the roster has taken shape: Mike:  Tedy, it's great to be back for another season with the "Breakdown". We'll also have a weekly podcast together this year, which is another way to communicate with visitors to the site. For this "Breakdown", I'll just start with some quick thoughts on the Patriots. I think the offense has potential to be one of the best in the NFL. The defense, on the other hand, has quite a few question marks. Tedy:  In my opinion, this preseason couldn't have gone any worse for the  New England Patriots . It started off on the wrong foot with  Logan Mankins  not reporting to camp and he is still AWOL. The  Nick Kaczur  experiment at left guard failed miserably with a severe back injury. You lose cornerback  Leigh Bodden  as he's put on injured reserve. Defensive end  Ty Warren  is put on IR. That's three legitimate starters and then you make it four with Mankins. One of the main goals in the preseason is to stay healthy and keep your team intact going into the season opener. The Patriots don't have that now.   Patriots blog ESPNBoston.com's Mike Reiss covers the New England Patriots in his  blog . You can send questions and comments to his  mailbag . •  ESPNBoston.com   Mike:  You could also add reserve safety  Brandon McGowan  in there as well, as he's out for the year with a torn pectoral muscle. The biggest question I have right now with the defense is not the pass rush, but its ability to stop the run. There have been a lot of changes in the front seven. One thing you can generally count on with a Bill Belichick defense is that it will be sturdy against the run, but I don't think we can say that right now. Will  Gerard Warren  make the transition to the team's scheme at left end? Can  Mike Wright  hold up at right end? Is  Tully Banta-Cain  strong enough against the run? Will the starter at outside linebacker on the other side hold up against the run? Tedy:  In the preseason, one of the things you want is to execute in all phases at a level that makes you content that you've made progress. Going into the season opener, you want to feel like you're fielding a team that can compete. Right now, defensively, with the injuries and the youth and the way they looked against the  New York Giants  in the final game of the preseason, this defense has a long way to go. When the Giants come at you with plays that aren't too complex, but just test your fundamentals, and you can't execute those fundamentals, you could be in trouble. A simple reverse play. A simple tight end pass to the flat that is wide open. A simple off-tackle run. These are plays that should be going for 3-5 yards, but they end up being big plays. That's when you know you're not executing the way you should. Mike:  On the flip side, it was easy to be impressed with the offense in the preseason. I thought the passing game looked sharp, with the integration of the tight ends giving the unit a more complete look. I also thought the running game was effective, thinking back to the third-and-short against the Giants that  Fred Taylor  converted with a strong situational run behind  Sammy Morris . To me, a good running team is one that gets two yards when it needs one. I think they've built some momentum in that area. Tedy:   Tom Brady  and the passing offense looks like it will be OK. I still wonder at the running back position. Right now, the Patriots are a team that passes to set up the run. The development of the tight ends is good. Overall, with what looks like problems defensively, this offense is going to have to score points. From a Brady perspective, you get nervous having him drop back time and time again when there are some young players protecting him. Mike:  Few could say that the Patriots defense inspired confidence in those final two preseason games. Tedy:  Right now, this defense has a lot of unproven youth. Then there are some players in the later parts of their career that are being counted on. How good can Gerard Warren be at the 5-technique defensive end spot? They brought in  Damione Lewis  and hoped he could provide some depth there, but he's no longer on the roster. Mike Wright, up to this point in his career, has never been an every-down player. It looks like they're asking him to do that. When you have unproven players providing depth, it magnifies an injury like Ty Warren's. There's too much of a dropoff between Ty Warren and the next player. You have big questions at outside linebacker. And can Tully Banta-Cain produce like he did last year, with 10 sacks for the second year in a row? Those are some big question marks. Mike:  We often say that reading into the preseason is dangerous, but after watching the 3-4 defense get sliced up by the Rams and Giants, it made me wonder if they should try something else.   [+] Enlarge Getty Images Vince Wilfork is one constant on defense for the Patriots.   Tedy:  I thought the exact same thing. All we have to go by now is what we've seen. And the last two games what we've seen is a Rams offense that had more than 90 plays, and then against the Giants in the final preseason game, all I wanted to focus on was the opening drive. That's really the team's focus in that game and the question "Would they answer from last week?" After what Coach Belichick said about the Rams game, of course the starters were going to play. And they didn't respond on that opening drive. So I see a lot of question marks. You look at the defensive roster and circle the players who you know are going to get the job done, and I have two --  Vince Wilfork  and  Jerod Mayo . They've done it consistently. I still want to see another year from  Brandon Meriweather  before he gets put in that category. He made the Pro Bowl last year because of an injury situation, so does he think he arrived, or will he work to continue to get better? It's easier to make the Pro Bowl now. That's no longer a measuring stick. Mike:  Tedy, rookie  Brandon Spikes  has emerged quickly at your old position. What have been some of your impressions of what you've seen? Tedy:  He's obviously impressed the coaching staff to emerge as a starter and that's a tribute to the camp he had and the player he is. He's supposed to be very instinctive and that's what you need to be at the inside linebacker position. His challenge is only about to grow. As the regular season arrives and teams start game-planning, the defense changes and there are adjustments that change from week to week, sometimes day to day. So for example, coaches might say on Wednesday, "This adjustment is how we're going to attack a certain formation." Then on Thursday the coaches might find that the adjustment is no longer applicable, so you have to be on your toes and communicate adjustments to the outside linebackers and safeties. It's going to be very difficult. When Jerod Mayo was a rookie, he was sandwiched between me and  Mike Vrabel . We let him play and we could make adjustments as he learned. Now Mayo is in a position where he is comfortable enough to help Spikes. It's a mental process and you have to think very quickly. Mike:  One of the surprising developments to me from the preseason is that 34-year-old Fred Taylor looks like the lead running back. At this stage of his career, he will no longer be a workhorse, but at least initially, I expect him to get the bulk of the carries. Tedy:  I don't think the running game is going to be a huge threat from this team. If you're an opposing defense, you don't look at them and say "I have to buckle up my chinstrap, here they come." That's not who they are. And when the Patriots attempt to do that, they know that's not who they are. They are about the passing offense. Whether it's Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris or  Kevin Faulk , I think you can feel comfortable with them at running back. It's clear from the lack of playing time that  Laurence Maroney  received that the coaches aren't high on him now. Still, this will be about the pass -- Tom Brady throwing for 4,000 yards,  Randy Moss  vying for the league lead, Wes Welker's return to health. I would still worry about the offensive line because Logan Mankins' holdout sent a ripple effect through the entire offensive line. You had Kaczur out of position and that might have contributed to his injury, because you are absorbing contact from a different position. You lose Kaczur and now the tackle depth is hurt and you're also down to your third choice at left guard. You also have to ask if  Stephen Neal  can stay healthy, as he's had some health issues in the past. Mike:  I think you're right Tedy, but why shouldn't the Patriots be more of an offense where defenses say "We have to buckle our chinstraps and here they come"? Tedy:  I think defenders probably want them to run more, because every time Sammy Morris gets a carry, or Kevin Faulk gets a carry, it's one less pass attempt to Randy Moss and  Wes Welker . The best players on the team are clearly Moss, Welker and Brady. As an offense, you want your best players to have the ball. The more passes they throw to the tight ends, the more times they hand it off, a defender will be saying "Great, they're not going to Moss 40 yards down the field, or Welker on an option route that he can turn into 20 yards." Mike:  I remember we were at the ESPNBoston.com draft party at Gillette Stadium in April and you mentioned that Bill Belichick was still searching for next  Mark Bavaro  at tight end. You nailed that one. It looks like  Rob Gronkowski , at 6-foot-6, 265 pounds, could be that big, physical, fast tight end that Belichick has been seeking. Tedy:  There has been good and bad with Gronkowski. The good is that he's a big, strong, physical guy with great hands. You saw how he could be a threat down in the red zone. The bad was seen right before he caught that touchdown pass against the New York Giants. The play before, he cut off a "7" route to the back left pylon of the end zone. Brady threw it there, thinking that he would be there. So that's where you see he's still a rookie. You don't quit running routes. He will develop over his rookie season, picking up the intricacies of the offense, which is difficult at the tight end position. You have to know pass routes and blocking schemes from different positions -- offset from the line, on the line of scrimmage, combo with the offensive tackle, pulling back across the line of scrimmage to trap a defensive lineman. It's one of the most difficult positions to learn. Mike:  Let's also touch on special teams, where the return game looks like it will get a boost from  Brandon Tate . Special teams coach Scott O'Brien said earlier in the preseason that the kickoff return unit was one area he'd like to see improvement. Tedy:  Special teams can be an X-factor that helps them this year. We saw after the Giants scored, they got a huge kickoff return and that made it a short field, to set up the offense for a score. Also,  Stephen Gostkowski  is one of the best kickers. He deserves every penny of his contract extension. That's why I drafted him in my fantasy league. Mike:  Another hot topic this offseason has been the coaching staff, with no official coordinators. Tedy:  Offensively, Bill O'Brien looks like the unnamed coordinator. You could tell during the preseason who was calling the shots and who Brady was talking to. Defensively, second in command to Belichick looks like Matt Patricia. He appears to be the one who is consulting with Bill on the sidelines, making adjustments, and wearing the headset and communicating with players through the coach-to-player communication device. So he looks like the unnamed defensive coordinator right now. Mike:  Let's wrap it up, Tedy, and we'll come back later this week with a "Breakdown" specifically on the opening game against the Bengals. I've predicted a 10-6 season for the Patriots. Tedy:  From my experience, I've been on teams before where you look terrible in the preseason and come out gangbusters in the regular season. Looking at the Patriots this preseason, are there things to be worried about? I'd say "Yes, there are." But perspective is important, too. There is a different tempo from preseason to regular season and playing four quarters. That's different than playing a quarter or a quarter and a half in a preseason game. There have been games where I've been on a team that played terrible in the first quarter, but by the fourth quarter it was a victory. Based on what's out there now, what's been shown, I expect the Patriots to be well coached and fundamentally sound. If you give the coaching staff this time to prepare, as well as some veteran players, it's plenty of time to address any type of problems they may have on the field. I anticipate a successful season.       Tedy Bruschi played 13 seasons for the  New England Patriots  and is a member of the franchise's 50th anniversary team. Mike Reiss is the Patriots blogger for ESPNBoston.com. You can reach Mike by leaving a  message in his mailbag .
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    The only people ever to tell Ted what to do were his parents and his coaches. No one else.
     
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    I thought he was fair, too. Has to be tough transitioning to the (national) media after being a local legend. If he were like Tommy Heinsohn, broadcasting locally, he could root for the team a bit more.

    In the end, he seems to say, "There's a lot we still don't know about this team, but we DO know they will be well coached."

    Spot on, there.
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    there's no other team he would root for but the pats. he definitely wants the team he played for in his entire pro career to do well.

    he's not being negative. it's possible that you are confusing constructive criticsm with negativity.
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    be ready to be patient....I don't know how well i will do, but be ready for some 45-42 ball games
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    In "White Men Can't Jump" in one scene the main character starts talking trash at the opposition.  Eventually he explains his action to his teammate.  When he talks trash, two things happen.  First, the other side plays worse.  Second, he's observed that his teammate gets ashamed and plays harder. 

    Bruschi always was a company guy.  If Tedy's good buddy Bill B. were to sidle up to him and say, "Hey, could you diss the team for a couple of days", Tedy would say, "Sure thing coach!"  Dissing the team does two things.  First, gossip gets around, and for a few weeks the other side doesn't quite respect the Patriots and worries more about some other rival, and second, individual Patriots players feel a bit ashamed and they play harder. 

    I like conspiracies.  I think that football games are occasionally fixed, I think Bill Polian is a bureaucratic pox on the NFL with his wiggling of NFL rules to his personal advantage, I think that teams sometimes steal signals, and I think that  numerous coaches would stoop to running down their own team's egos in public if it meant one more win out of 100 tries.
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    I think it's probably natural for Bruschi to be be a little more critical of the Pats than he might be of the rest of the league to deflect any preconceived notions that he might simply be a Pats apologist because he played for them. Also remember, he's seen this defense from the inside looking out, and has a perspective on it to which none of us here (and few of his colleagues) can lay claim. If he seems to be accentuating the negative, my guess would be that as a player, this is the way his own performance would be critiqued. To paraphrase Chris Rock, you don't get praise for doing your job correctly, but your mistakes are clearly delineated (over and over again, in slow motion).










     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Guys, Bruschi's job is to give a critical analysis of the Pats.  And what is he most critical of?  The team's youth.  This is a good thing.  There's only one player that he's down on and that's Maroney.  I don't see how anybody can not have questions about the defense even if Ty and Bodden were healthy.  The Pats have unknowns which equates to a lot of youth. 
     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from SettleDown. Show SettleDown's posts

    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Being objective about THESE Patriots is not being a Negative Nancy. It's being objective.

    The DL has Big Vince and TBA.

    The LBs have Mayo, Spikes (still a rookie, though he looks damn good) and JAGs.

    The secondary is so young that Brandon Merriweather is seen as its leader at this point. While he has first round talent and sometimes shows that, he also sometimes has his head up his butt.

    We need to see the Butler/McCourty CB tandem for many games before we can say "Yeah, they'll be OK".

    These are facts. This D is suspect at this point.

    Did you ever SEE this team before Belichick/Brady?


     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    I hate to break it to you but because he was a great player doesnt mean this guy was a sweet heart.

    Lol people seem to forget that. Not everyone is going to be mr.sunshine Tommy. He barely talks to Vrabes anymore and has always been like this. 

    Shocker
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    He was without a doubt being negative, I also think he was mostly correct.

    I think Teddy has a right to be critical but it wouldn't hurt to spin some positive things in there as well, try to find a balance.

    Now going out on a limb here cause I love the guy on the field BUT he seems to have it out for the players on the team, loves the coach and owner, loves his fellow vets like Tom. He just doesn't seem to like all the new guys here and he seems to think the only ones capable of getting it done were the ex Pats, like there can't be another group of Teddy's and Rodney's.

    This is football and you get old, then there is another young guy just like you to fill the void. Get used to it, get over it, and be all means do not get jelous please.
     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from kansaspatriot. Show kansaspatriot's posts

    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    In Response to Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.:
    [QUOTE]" "analysts" like Tony Dungy are total homers and apologistsPosted by BostonTrollSpanker[/QUOTE]

    i'll second that.

    got no problem with tedy giving his analysis. it doesn't sound like the same old whinyCry stuff you hear around hear all the time form fairweather fans
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Every Pats' fan wants to hear positive things about their team, as do fans of all NFL teams.  When someone in the media paints a picture you do not necessarily care for, being to blunt, you call them a "negative nancy"?  Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall in the lockerroom when BB is talking to the players?  I am certain he sounds even more frank than Tedy did in his interview with Reiss! 

    Look at one of the most profound statements he made about coming into the season... basically be healthy as a team.  As he points out, who have the Pats lost ALREADY in the pre-season!! And we are not talking about 2nd stringers! Generally, we are used to losing players during the regular season, let alone the pre-season. 

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from mthurl. Show mthurl's posts

    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Oh NOOOOOO!!!   Tedy is a troll like everybody else that doesn't want to just lap up the Koolaid!? What is the world coming to! The trolls have spread. He must be a Jets fan. I knew it, bet there is more like him, lets flush them out! Kansas Patriot, maybe you can go down the street and knock on Pioli's door and give him a polygraph? Bet yah he would have some very awful things to say now that his Koolaid has worn off.
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    In Response to Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.:
    [QUOTE]Oh NOOOOOO!!!   Tedy is a troll like everybody else that doesn't want to just lap up the Koolaid!? What is the world coming to! The trolls have spread. He must be a Jets fan. I knew it, bet there is more like him, lets flush them out! Kansas Patriot, maybe you can go down the street and knock on Pioli's door and give him a polygraph? Bet yah he would have some very awful things to say now that his Koolaid has worn off.
    Posted by mthurl[/QUOTE]

    lmao!


     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from underdoggggg. Show underdoggggg's posts

    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    In Response to Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.:
    [QUOTE]" Tell me one thing Bruschi said here that is not true. He has better insight then any of us. IMO. Bruschi is telling it like he sees it." agreed! Many "true fans" on this board seem to confuse negativity with the truth. There is a difference. Tedy is pretty refreshing given that "analysts" like Tony Dungy are total homers and apologists for their former teams.  Again, Bruschi is not saying anything that the naked eye can't see. And he's allowing for the possibility the Pats could overcome these obstacles and have a strong year.  Tedy would definitely be considered a troll by some in this forum who are confused as to what a troll is. A troll is someone who posts to generate an emotional reaction and move a conversation off topic. Trolls also hit the same point of view over and over again and don't change their views or agenda. If we can stay on topic and talk football we should be ok here, some will be more positive, some more skeptical, and we can handle that.
    Posted by BostonTrollSpanker[/QUOTE]

    Gotta step up. 

    First - Dungy was complimentary of his former team last year.  HOW COULD HE NOT BE?  They were undefeated until they rested players.  Maybe its time for you to reevaluate what it means to be critical.  

    Second - If it were not for the above, I would otherwise agree that Dungy is a homer, BUT I think coaches who leave on their own terms and put their own people in place to succeed them have more difficulty being critical about what they have left behind than players do.  A player is a single individual responsible for his own work only.  A coach is responsible for the entire team.  I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a coach critical of his immediately former team if he left that team the way Dungy did. 

    Comparing Dungy and Bruschi is like apples and oranges.  Now if you want a homer - that would be Rodney Harrison.
     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from sam0377. Show sam0377's posts

    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Can we please stop commenting on this defence being so bad non sense? Atleast wait for the couple of games in?

    Who cares what Teddy speaks on ESPN. Its just TV.

    Look at the giants team, didnt they have pretty much the same starters and how did they do last year?
     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from DBCoach. Show DBCoach's posts

    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    I guess you have to have 3 rings to have a objective post and not get bashed.. I think I have already paraphrased what Bruschi is saying...  its gonna be a tough year (let me use the word) unless the running game can keep a defense somewhat honest. This defense has to get off the field on 3rd down more often than not.  Its to hard to keep leads with a passing game.  There are far to many players on this defense that have to play at a high level imo  I feel at least 2-3 have to play at pro bowl level even if not selected and I don"t see it.

    Disclaimer... all in my opinion
     
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    Re: Tedy Bruschi: Once A Great Player, Now A Negative Nancy.

    Gee VERTIGHO....we are sorry!  Did the Big Bad Teddy Bruschi make iddy widdums feel bad? Did he hurt your itty bitty feelwings?

    For Gawds sake grow up and act like a man for once. EVERYTHING he said was true about the Patriots. Perhaps you should hang out in the kiddies forum and let the grown ups talk ok.

    Have your mommy make you a Peanut Butter and Jewwy Sanmich and tuck you in ok?  Night Night Pumpkins.....Yell


     

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