Re: Thanks All
posted at 2/11/2010 2:52 AM EST
In Response to Re: Thanks All
Tammy - Are you talking about the same Patriots team that was this year's odds on preseason favorite to win the Super Bowl? The same Patriots team that no one on this board in the preseason said, "nope, the pundits are wrong, our Pats aren't going to be that good"? That Patriots team. I love your revisionist history. Love it. Still haven't answered my question. Who was the last good team the colts played? Further, now that you are one of many who have revised their opinion of the pats since the preseason, exactly how were the pats rebuilding? Don't say Seymour. Most people here were happy to seem him go. Said he took too many plays off. Better off without him. Keeping Bruschi or Vrabel or Harrison would not have been an upgrade. Remember, this team was the odds on favorite to win the super bowl this year and one guy (seymour) would not have changed that. By contrast, there were many many outlets who said the colts would not make the playoffs. They were picking, the Pats, Titans, Texans, Chargers, Steelers, and Ravens. Too much change for the colts. Too much offseason turmoil. Marvin Harrison gone. Bob Sanders starting the season injured. Tony Ugoh ineffective. 1st Week Anthony Gonzalez, Harrison's replacement out with a knee injury. Given what was expected nationally of the colts at the beginning of the year - and this includes the expectations of pats fans, the colts outperformed their expectations more than any other team in the NFL this year. Don't forget to answer those questions, Tammy.
Posted by underdoggg
Yeah, I did a quick search to confirm your version of history. Here were the parameters "2009 nfl preseason predictions" in Google. I only clicked on the first three links and each one picked the colts to win the AFC South. So much for that.
And how does an in-season injury to Gonzalez become an issue when you are talking about the pre-season predictions? Was it predicted that he would go on IR?
Hopes were certainly high for the Pats with TB coming back especially with his 2007 performance and the fact that without him, the Pats went 11-5. So, go figure, pundits were high on both the Pats and colts.
But,let's look at your focus on the pre-season in attempting to compare the how well each team did against expectations for what it is - BS. It is a red herring. And you are using it to ease the pain from hitting the ground so hard after sitting at your giddy, "I wanna dance" heights.
Once the playoffs came and even before Welker's injury, most Pats fans had hope they could get deep into the playoffs. They weren't certain, but there was hope. The Pats had played very inconsistently through the season and couldn't hold a 4th quarter lead against a good team. The loss to the Texans in the same manner in the last week of the season confirmed what a lot already knew - while they were better than a lot of teams, they just weren't a great team this year. Losing Welker sealed the deal. When the playoffs began, the talk was "if they can do this" not "when they get to the SB" as in years past.
The colts however ran a different route. They were given multiple opportunites by the refs to "come from behind" in 7 games. They actually looked good enough and lucky enough to make a great playoff run and when the playoffs started, they were always in the mix to get to the AFCCG, if not the SB. They won 14 in a row and only lost because they chose to be quitters. This still did not deter the media nor the fans from proclaiming the organization to be the greatest run ever and Manning to be the right hand of god.
So, going into the playoffs we had a "hope they can" team in the Pats and a "when they get there" team in the colts. Pats fans had several big losses during the season - including 2 to the SB participants - and had their fingers crossed. colts fans had a 14 game win streak and kept lying to themselves that they would have gone undefeated had they wanted to. They also had to convince themselves that the lie by the colts front office about resting as being the best way to get to the SB was true. And convince themselves they did. All the way to the SB. Some even felt like dancing after the AFCCG, remember?
So, the Pats had a not great for them season and an early out, but their play prepared us for it. The colts had a nearly undefeated season, a few big lies and were polishing off the Lombardi at the end of January. No, dear ud, the Pats loss was not bigger nor was it more upsetting. The colts failure to live up their own lies, the lies you bought into, is a fantastic letdown.
And I am laughing at you because you were the biggest defender of the lies.