The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

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    The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    And that means you have to have a runner they fear. And if you are not fearing Blount right now, you are very dumb.

     

    According to Bedard...

    "The Jets (’10), Giants (’11) and Ravens (’12) played their base defense a total of 14 of 195 total snaps (7.2 percent) when they held the Patriots to 21 (garbage-time touchdown included), 17 and 13 points, respectively. The rest was nickel or dime defense with extra defensive backs. Basically, the defenses dared the Patriots to forego their passing attack and run the ball.

    The Patriots attempted to run the ball, but couldn’t do it effectively enough to pull the defenses out of playing coverage. They averaged 3.5 yards per attempt in the first half of those games. Since the defenses felt no need to drop a safety down into the box—or swap a linebacker for a defensive back—to help against the run, Brady had a tough time finding players open. He completed 60 percent of his passes in those losses and was knocked around by the pass rush, which had time to get there."

     

    This is the same old story of recent years. The run is inept and the bad guys load up against Brady. BB is forced to go with his bread and butter even if the D is loaded for bear against it because the feeble run game is clearly not going to win it.

    If Blount has changed all that, this might be the year we harvest a Lombardi. His 6.2 ypc in the last 5 games will cause fear in the enemy's defense. If they focus on the run Brady will destroy them, and if they load up on him Blount will run them right out of the playoffs.

     

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    I have to agree that the run game will be key to keeping the Denver D (and beyond, we hope) off balance. 

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    run, run, run, run, control de clock and give Manning 7-8 drives en the game.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    Heard that point made on the radio last night. & Agree 100%. It's all nice to say lets run iit but the run has to beeffectively est. to be a threat. And the last month has shown that we have effectively est. the run so now it's time for the run to open up the pass and not vice versa like it used to be. 

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    Listened to Pierce - SB lb for Giants - he is blown away

    that TB now has a running game - basically unfair to the D

     

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.


    What does 3.5 yards at 3 downs get you?

    Lets also look at how the 3.5 yards came to be. Was it our line up smash mouth power rum game which the entire sports world is talking about right now that got you 3.5 ypc in those playoff games? NOPE.

    Or was it using a scat back out of a soft finesse offense running out draw plays for 2.5 and 3 ypc like woodhead did, that got you in that pickle? YUP

    Our power run game in all the playoff losses except 07 with maroney got us 4 to 4.5 ypc....we just didnt use them as lead backs. Why? Because we were a pass first, pass heavy one dimensional offense. Now due to plan, or injury, we see what a power running game can do behind the best coached o line in the history of the league.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.


    This is perfect. I challenge anyone to go look at the play by play chart in the jets 2010 playoff game that the writer refers to, or the ravens afc game from 2011, or the gints 2 weeks later.

    Against the Jets we come out passing everywhere with a few woodhead draws that didnt work, Brady sacks etc.... We power run BJGE for 36 yards on 6 carries.....by my math that is 5.8 ypc. Perhaps we should have played smash mouth more then 5 times since we put up 3 points and all by passing 18 times to 5 power runs. Oh , but Im sure my friends Z, Babe and Prolate(anyone seen my amigo prolate lately?) Will come on this thread and say we were balanced because we ran wood for 6 carries for 18 yards.

    Looks like the lead power back ran very productively out of power run sets. I wonder what would have happened if we used him more?

    Maybe it was just a fluke performance by the lead power back. Lets look at Pats Ravens 2011 afc championship game.

    1st half BJGE 8 carries for 50 YARDS? What? 6.2 ypc, the only td drive of the half was when we opened up the 2nd qtr and our power back went for 13, 11, then woodhead draw for 2, a few passes, and then finished the drive with our power back going 3 straight carries for 12 yards and our lone TD!

    Great 1st half production from our power running game.

    Probably a mistake, lets look at the next game the 2011 SB.

    Power back had a whopping FOUR carries for 14 yards, a paltry 3.5 ypc....ohhh this must be why we were one dimensional, wait but the power back finished with 10 carries for 44 yards. 6 carries for 30 yards in 2nd half? Good thing we only ran him 10 times!

     

    Look the whole world is waking up to the fact that our offense is a better, more efficient offense when we utilize a power smash mouth run game. NO, that doesn't mean we have to run all the time, it means play complimentary balanced football that helps Brady and does not hurt him.

    Now we have a few guys who have passionately argued that our offense has been "just fine" despite the finesse pass heavy approach that lead to 15.5 ppg scored in our last 5 post season exits, and they are up in arms, trying to blow BB's words out of proportion in order to support their ill informed agenda.

    Do I blame BB for the offensive philosophical woes from 07 SB till 2011 post season exit....yes, I blame him, mcd, obrien, Brady, Kraft, the water boy, the sun moon and stars, and J.C himself if they were all responsible, because as we are once again witnessing, like we did in our 3 SB dynasty years, this team plays better when they allow their offensive line to attack and win battles, play balanced, use power running, quick passing, SG passing, SG draws, screens, reverses, check downs to obscure seldom used players like a FB, or 3rd string TE! Hit the open guy, give different looks, multi faceted, variety play calls....

    Anyway, Brady will play his best post season game since 2004 on Sunday. He won't face 90% nickel defense like the author notes, the D will play honest, and we will see vintage Tom Brady because of it.

    Btw, nice post babe.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

    But in the last two SB losses - did the Patriots really lose just because of an anemic run game? Or was it due to poor play from all 3 phases of the game, poor coaching, turnovers, and the opponent made 2-3 more plays than the Patriots?




    I don't think our last two SBs were much alike at all, other than the defensive choke at the end.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:
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    But in the last two SB losses - did the Patriots really lose just because of an anemic run game? Or was it due to poor play from all 3 phases of the game, poor coaching, turnovers, and the opponent made 2-3 more plays than the Patriots?

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    There was only an anemic run game in2007. In our next 4 post season losses the power run game worked well all game, and that was with using an undrafted after thought power back for 2 years. Rid ran for tough yardage against the ravens last year, but in the 2nd half at the exact moment we went one dimensional we lost the momentum and the game. Opened up the half with the lead and went 9 passes to 1 power run, and 1 woody scat b.s ru . Ravens exploited the D absent Talib in response to both of our puntss. We tried to get momentum back by running ridley for some good yardage and a 1st down as we realized our mistake but on the next carry Bernard Pollard officially ended our season for the 4rth time in 4 years by knocking ridley out with what should have been helmet to helmet.

    The power run game not working is a myth created by a few here. We all see how efficient our offense is when we let the big dogs eat.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:
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    But in the last two SB losses - did the Patriots really lose just because of an anemic run game? Or was it due to poor play from all 3 phases of the game, poor coaching, turnovers, and the opponent made 2-3 more plays than the Patriots?

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    There was only an anemic run game in2007. In our next 4 post season losses the power run game worked well all game, and that was with using an undrafted after thought power back for 2 years. Rid ran for tough yardage against the ravens last year, but in the 2nd half at the exact moment we went one dimensional we lost the momentum and the game. Opened up the half with the lead and went 9 passes to 1 power run, and 1 woody scat b.s ru . Ravens exploited the D absent Talib in response to both of our puntss. We tried to get momentum back by running ridley for some good yardage and a 1st down as we realized our mistake but on the next carry Bernard Pollard officially ended our season for the 4rth time in 4 years by knocking ridley out with what should have been helmet to helmet.

    The power run game not working is a myth created by a few here. We all see how efficient our offense is when we let the big dogs eat.

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    Still think the trick is in formations not broadcasting the intended play. Last week we ran on passing downs and passed on running downs. The bomb to DA was a classic case. Pinned back on your 11 and it's first down. Obviously calls for a running play so fake the run and catch the safety ( I think they only had one back ) cheating towards the line of scrimage.

    Another one...2nd and 9 obviously a passing down. Put in 3 wideouts then run. It ended up in a third and 1 but you see my point?

    The problem with our offense the last couple of seasons was that a child of 2 could guess what we were going to do based on the personel packages.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    I agree 100% glen, but our thoughts coincide. Thats the thing about being in the spread so much, you rely on it and it becomes painfully obvious you are either passing or watch out for the 5ft7 180 pound RB running the draw(which playoff teams all shut down with ease). Then the power back with matching personnel comes in and runs up the middle. If you have more balance you are using multiple formations. Plus the 2 RB set(1 FB) is prevelant again and gives a D something else to worry about. Pass out of the I formation which hasn't been used in N.E since Heath Evans and you will give D's a headache.

    All this stuff used to happen all the time while we were winning SB's.

    this is why we will have our most efficient game on offense in almost a decade and we will win a tough road game.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    In response to joepatsfan111111's comment:
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    Heard that point made on the radio last night. & Agree 100%. It's all nice to say lets run iit but the run has to beeffectively est. to be a threat. And the last month has shown that we have effectively est. the run so now it's time for the run to open up the pass and not vice versa like it used to be. 

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    I think the key is that Blount shows he is a serious homerun threat. Any team watching film has to see that, and they will have to worry about that on gameday. That's what you want from a run game at least. Make them have to pay attention to it, rather than concentrating on the pass and handling the run easily with their off hand.

    They have just had no fear of Benny or Ridley burning them bad. That should change, or Blount will make them pay.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    In response to auchhhhhhhhhhh's comment:
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    run, run, run, run, control de clock and give Manning 7-8 drives en the game.

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    The Broncos were 7th in the NFL against the run in 2013 and 27th against the pass. With Harris their best corner out, wouldn't a balanced attack make more sense? When you look at what transpired in their last meeting, the Patriots fell behind 24-0 in the first half and the running game was of no consequence in that victory. With the Broncos game-planning for our terrific recent running success, I'm guessing that it won't be as simple as "run, run, run, run" and will be an innovative mix of both running and passing. You can also take time off the clock by completing pases for 1st downs and I expect the Patriots to be doing both Sunday with great success.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.

    In response to glenr's comment:
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    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:
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    But in the last two SB losses - did the Patriots really lose just because of an anemic run game? Or was it due to poor play from all 3 phases of the game, poor coaching, turnovers, and the opponent made 2-3 more plays than the Patriots?

    [/QUOTE]
    There was only an anemic run game in2007. In our next 4 post season losses the power run game worked well all game, and that was with using an undrafted after thought power back for 2 years. Rid ran for tough yardage against the ravens last year, but in the 2nd half at the exact moment we went one dimensional we lost the momentum and the game. Opened up the half with the lead and went 9 passes to 1 power run, and 1 woody scat b.s ru . Ravens exploited the D absent Talib in response to both of our puntss. We tried to get momentum back by running ridley for some good yardage and a 1st down as we realized our mistake but on the next carry Bernard Pollard officially ended our season for the 4rth time in 4 years by knocking ridley out with what should have been helmet to helmet.

    The power run game not working is a myth created by a few here. We all see how efficient our offense is when we let the big dogs eat.

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    Still think the trick is in formations not broadcasting the intended play. Last week we ran on passing downs and passed on running downs. The bomb to DA was a classic case. Pinned back on your 11 and it's first down. Obviously calls for a running play so fake the run and catch the safety ( I think they only had one back ) cheating towards the line of scrimage.

    Another one...2nd and 9 obviously a passing down. Put in 3 wideouts then run. It ended up in a third and 1 but you see my point?

    The problem with our offense the last couple of seasons was that a child of 2 could guess what we were going to do based on the personel packages.

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    I agree........set up for run on first play of game and bomb it down field....even if overthrown...Denver will start falling apart. Keep them confused.

     
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    Re: The enemy must fear the run for us to be balanced.


    run it..control TOP...our Defensive secondary will win or lose us this game.

     

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