In Response to Re: The Future...
[QUOTE]Right good point, but we rank 29th still so I am having a pressed time buying into all of it. Not to be negative because I believe in Butler unlike most, and love the play of McCourty. I do hope they get better though. Bodden is a big part of the next three years, while the rest will have to get better (my eye's on you Butler) As far as tomorrow.. GO PATS!
Posted by Getzo[/QUOTE]~
...This IS suppossed to be (in my many past & still current estimates)-Year #2, of at most a 3 year Total & Complete Overhall for this NE Squad. So sick of guys sayin', "Ehhh, We only finished with the best record in our Division for the 10th straight year, but haven't won the Superbowl in like 4 or 5 years...we s#ck." With Salary Caps, Free Agency, Player's Ages, Injuries, Roster Limitations & Ceilings on Player Numbers, Coaching Changes & Departures, Steroid Testing, & League Rule Changes, Teams aren't SUPPOSSED to win the freakin' Superbowl EVERY Year, or 2, or 3, or even 4! Jesus teams STILL rebuild!~THIS
being said (& Getzo
, above ain't directed at you), Getzo-Some of your numbers are misleading: #1
. Remember, INCREDIBLY young Defense, and in particular here, NE's Secondary. Most guys again, Have been in the Pros (yet again, INCLUDING this year)=2 Years in TOTAL! Ya wanna be kind? 2-3 Years, including this one...that's unreal. #2
. These 1st & 2nd year Pros have been goin' against some unreal Offenses, with Pro-Bowlers and Offensive passing weapons who are loaded and have been around for a long time in the NFL, and know their stuff. #3
. Pass-Rush: Several NFL Teams are in their 20's for Sack Counts...NE's @ 10 Sacks in 5 Games=2 Sacks a Game, big whoop (and it seems BB's been sending more guys MORE often because of this lack of backfield pressure, so there's even less help there in pass-coverage). #4
. A BIG One...Even though BB's been sendin' an extra guy, it usually IS as a blitzer. Meaning, Even though 4-5 defenders are rushing the QB, and even though NE does use a 4-3 and moreso these days, a Big Nickel Defense, New England is STILL happily married to the 3-4 Defense
. And it's the original (most original/basic) form of the 3-4 Defense ("Fairbanks-Bulloughs" I believe). This IS, no doubt, denying, or whatever, A Complete "Bend but Do Not Break" Defense, AS an entire Defensive System
This means a few things...
#4-a This DOESN'T Translate very well to your basic NFL Team Defensive Major Stats. Because, you're gonna keep the other teams's offenses on longer drives, under the notion that they WILL eventually mess up
(fail to convert a 1st, turn it over some way, & overall get frustrated, perhaps at worse hopefully just get a field goal). See, It's a number's game...and NE's winning this year. Here's some reasons WHY: The Defense is younger & a little deeper (especially in the secondary in this pass-happy league)...Meaning: Fresher legs and more depth to stay on the field during these longer oppossing offensive drives. This basic 3-4 Defense also has been working not simply because of these fresher legs, but because NE HAS been making plays when they're needed...You point to a "Bad" Defensive Yardage Stat or Points Allowed Getzo, I'll point to a 11-7 Oppossing Offense Touchdown To NE's Defensive Turnover Ratio, thus far...not too bad.
Finally, Some Tough B.S. penalties (all but 1 or 2 teams above them, have played those 6, not 5 like NE, Total Games thus far...IF NE had actually played 6, doin' the average, their D would be just outside the Top 1/3rd in Total Penalties. Couple this with no QB pressure, it's tough on this young secondary playing some great Receivers thus far, and stayin' on the field longer).
(final reason NE's Defense does NOT translate well, to your basic NFL Defensive Stat Numbers)= This very basic 3-4 Defense, for better or worse, Gambles even LESS often as the game wears on and IF and when NE gets that lead against the other oppossing NFL Team (hurts that "Defensive Stat Numbers's Game" even moreso)
. I guess the Overall notion is that ya want the other Offense to go on even longer, MORE frustrating & time consuming drives, Eating up the clock & ending the game... Some unfortunate off-shoots to this, Is that NE's Offense too, becomes less risky (NO big mistakes, turnovers, etc in wild big plays, More short yardage runs, etc.), Also-SO Your Defense has now gotta be on the field 10X longer, due to it's Basic "bend don't break system", the game lead & playin' MORE vanilla defense (no huge plays), AND being coupled with an Offense playing even less risky (less passes-even small passes get trumped by more time consuming runs...and that oppossing defense KNOWS it).
SOME Proof can be found right in the Game Recaps:
Cincy Game- New England up 31-3. Last 4 scores? 21 Points Cinci to 7 Points NE.
Jets Game- New England up 14-7. Last 4 scores? 21 Points NY 0 Points NE.
Buffalo Game- New England up 24-16. Last 4 scores? 14 Points Buffalo 14Points NE.
Miami Game- New England up 20-7. Last 4 Scores? 7 Points Miami 21 Points NE (game was a blowout).
Baltimore Game- New England up 17-10. Last 4 Scores? 7 Points Baltimore 6 Points NE.~
This ALL means 1 thing: The New England Patriots get up, and try to End The Game! NE's up, & With a bend-but-don't-break Defense as is, AND this type of Defense being on the field longer and taking an even less riskier approach to it's schematics, COUPLED with an Offense merely attempting to run seconds off the clock in order to secure a Win=By and large, Defensive Stats get KILLED.
....So ALL of THIS, Happens to be the great reason WHY- jesus...I don't even remember what the subject was...WhyTF and HowTF do I ALWAYS DO THIS!?!