The Pats DB making History breaking all the records!!!

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    The Pats DB making History breaking all the records!!!

    From a great Weei article

    Blame brady all you want , but the defense is reaching a new low out there

     

    Here’s a look at the brutal start by the Patriots’ passing defense:

    • The Patriots have allowed 15 passing touchdowns, tied for most in the NFL. They are on pace to permit 40 touchdown passes, which would break the NFL record of 38 in a season set by the 1969 St. Louis Cardinals. If one includes AFL teams, the 2012 Pats are on pace to tie the record for most touchdowns allowed in a season, set by the 1963 Broncos.
    • The 2012 Patriots are on pace to demolish the franchise record for most passing touchdowns allowed in a season. The current record of 29 was set by the 1995 team that finished 6-10.
    • The 2012 Patriots have allowed more touchdown passes through six games than any other team in franchise history. The previous record of 13 was set by the 1961 and 1994 teams.
    • Prior to this season, 24 teams in the Super Bowl era had allowed 15 or more passing touchdowns in their first 6 games of the season. Two (1986 Jets, 2002 Titans) made the playoffs.
    • The Patriots are on pace to permit 275+ yards in 11 games — which would break the team record of 10, set in 2011
    • The Patriots have allowed 275+ yards passing in four straight games, tied for the longest streak in team history (previously done in 2011, 2005, 1996, 1962).
    • The defense has permitted an average of 288.8 passing yards per game, 28th in the NFL. It is the second highest passing yards per game average of a Patriots team through six games in franchise history. (Last year’s Patriots team allowed 322.2 passing yards per game in the first six contests of the season — the second highest yield through six games of any team in the Super Bowl era.)
    • Opponents are completing 64.4 percent of passes, 25th in the NFL
    • The Patriots have permitted two or more passing touchdowns in four games, on pace for 11 such contests, which would tie team record, previously set by 1995 and 1961 Patriots.
    • The Patriots have allowed 33 completions of 20+ yards, first in the NFL — and it’s not even close. Second highest total: 26.
    • Opponents have a 100.9 QB rating, 27th in the NFL. That mark would shatter the previous record for the worst ever permitted by the Patriots in a season (92.2, 1972).
    • The Patriots have allowed 79 passing 1st downs, 27th in the NFL.

     

     
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    I Think This Week We Will see some more Ras I Dowling at safety

    and more dennard , arrington will move to the slot ,

     
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    Nothing surprising. BB needs to let someone else draft the secondary. For whatever reason he can't judge a DB's skills nor does he believe in spending money in the secondary.

    I just don't understand what he doesn't see with this group that everyone else does? 

     
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    Please no Moore at S. He's taken a step in the JAG direction lately. Dennard showed some nice ability as a CB. I agree moving Ras to FS with Dennard and McCourty starting might be the best option right now, until Gregory comes back at least


    Brady also had a bad game. He has them a couple times a season but there is enough blame to go around. If the D was better they would have won, if the running game was better they would have won, if the coaching was better they would have won, if Brady didn't have mental brain farts on those ints and intentional grounding calls they would have won, if ST could cover a punt or have one of those deep punts they might have won. Plenty of blame to go around no matter who you want to blame

     
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    from week one last season it's the same stats every game ,
    just change the corner/safety name get the smae result PI or big yards ,
    it wouldnt change much this season , live and die on bradys shoulders

     
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    Ya, obviously a lame attempt to bash our top rated D, due to media jealousy and Godell's rules.

    Everyone knows it's Brady's job to be ahead by 3 scores late in the 4th qtr and he's failing miserably.  How's that on-line GED class working out for you?

     
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    BB is horrendous at judging talent in the secondary. Worst secondary in all of football.

     

    Have a good day.

     
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    In response to HOTBLITZ's comment:
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    BB is horrendous at judging talent in the secondary. Worst secondary in all of football.

     

    Have a good day.

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    I honestly do not think he is the worst at judging talent, I think he may be the worst at coaching the secondary (or finding secondary coaches). Defensive backs seem to get worse the longer they play in this system...

     
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    In response to FrnkBnhm's comment:
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    BB is horrendous at judging talent in the secondary. Worst secondary in all of football.

     

    Have a good day.

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    I honestly do not think he is the worst at judging talent, I think he may be the worst at coaching the secondary (or finding secondary coaches). Defensive backs seem to get worse the longer they play in this system...

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    Either way we have a problem that without drastic change is going to cost us yet another run at a ring..

    Brady by no means was good on sunday but our secondary is so painfull to watch. You just know if the games on the line and they have to make a stop it's not happening. This has been happening season after season for a long time now. I can't believe he hasn't addressed it.

     
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    Yes, the secondary is bad, but, what about the front line and pressuring the QB?  We hardly see the opponents QB needing to force a pass as they stand back there and dance around while the receivers break out to be open.  You rarely see the quick passes against the Pats D, those long routes take time and since the pass rush is ineffective, those 20+ yard plays come easily to the QB throwing against the Pats.  BB seems to think he has the players that can play D, but, are they underperforming expectations?  I'd say yes and they all have new a**holes ripped by BB after every game.

     
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    Re: The Pats DB making History breaking all the records!!!

    In response to pezz4pats' comment:
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    Ya, obviously a lame attempt to bash our top rated D, due to media jealousy and Godell's rules.

    Everyone knows it's Brady's job to be ahead by 3 scores late in the 4th qtr and he's failing miserably.  How's that on-line GED class working out for you?

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    LOL, I wonder who you are impersonating

     
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    Imagine what the Patriots aoffense would put up if the could play their own defense.

     
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    Ya, obviously a lame attempt to bash our top rated D, due to media jealousy and Godell's rules.

    Everyone knows it's Brady's job to be ahead by 3 scores late in the 4th qtr and he's failing miserably.  How's that on-line GED class working out for you?

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    It is Brady's job to not leave points on the field though and he did that on a couple of occassions. Brady failed by leaving points on the field and the D failed by not holding a lead, and the coaching staff failed for putting the team into losing formations (seriously when Sea played almost exclusive nickel and you're still throwing it or when prevent has failed to prevent anything in the last 5 games you do it again?), and the ST's failed by letting a returner get to the 40 when they needed a TD to win. Everyone failed on Sunday

     
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    Brady DID NOT leave points on the field.  It was a coaching decision to go for another pass play to end the half figuring, at the worst, an incomplete pass would leave a second or two.  For all intents and purposes, the Pats expected the play to succeed.  Did Brady really throw the ball up the middle to no one or did the receiver turn the wrong way resulting in the intentional grounding?  Who knows.  Seems too many here think the Pats call plays they expect not to work.  There is another team on the field, called the opponent's defense, that has a hand in the results.  Why do so many posters here think every Pats' offensive play should work every time without fail?  A very unrealistic expectation. 

     
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    In response to PatsEng's comment:
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    In response to pezz4pats' comment:
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    Ya, obviously a lame attempt to bash our top rated D, due to media jealousy and Godell's rules.

    Everyone knows it's Brady's job to be ahead by 3 scores late in the 4th qtr and he's failing miserably.  How's that on-line GED class working out for you?

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    It is Brady's job to not leave points on the field though and he did that on a couple of occassions. Brady failed by leaving points on the field and the D failed by not holding a lead, and the coaching staff failed for putting the team into losing formations (seriously when Sea played almost exclusive nickel and you're still throwing it or when prevent has failed to prevent anything in the last 5 games you do it again?), and the ST's failed by letting a returner get to the 40 when they needed a TD to win. Everyone failed on Sunday

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    I agree, it was a team failure, including the coaching.

     
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    In response to PatsEng's comment:
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    In response to pezz4pats' comment:
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    Ya, obviously a lame attempt to bash our top rated D, due to media jealousy and Godell's rules.

    Everyone knows it's Brady's job to be ahead by 3 scores late in the 4th qtr and he's failing miserably.  How's that on-line GED class working out for you?

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    It is Brady's job to not leave points on the field though and he did that on a couple of occassions. Brady failed by leaving points on the field and the D failed by not holding a lead, and the coaching staff failed for putting the team into losing formations (seriously when Sea played almost exclusive nickel and you're still throwing it or when prevent has failed to prevent anything in the last 5 games you do it again?), and the ST's failed by letting a returner get to the 40 when they needed a TD to win. Everyone failed on Sunday

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    Understand what you are saying 100% but here's my problem.

    It's never good to leave points out on the field but is that the norm with this team?

    It's also not the norm to see things like bad time management before the half.

    Some of the play calling was horrendous and totally illogical but more often that not, that is not the case.

    It's totally understandable for a whole team to have a bad day but what is not understandable is a Defense that is consistantly bad and hasn't improved in 3+ year, in fact they are getting worse by the year..  This has become the norm for this D and they are quickly becomming the laughing stock of the league.  6 of 6 over 20 yrd passes completed by a rookie QB is not a joke, it's a travesty.  Constantly caughing up 2 score leads for losses is as bad as it gets. They are personnally responsable for ALL of the Pats major losses.  It is their J O B to protect a lead and aid in keeping the score low to keep the O in the game.   They are doing OK in keeping the games close enough but it's all for naught when the O does get a 2 score lead and they give up 2 TD's in the final minutes to blow it.

    You can't rely on the O to win every game, it's to much pressure on them and then people wonder why they make mistakes, and put their misguided blame on them.

    Like Reiss said today in his chat:  "The D is the achilless heel of their play-off hopes".  Unfortunately, it's been that way for years, not one bad game, but years.

     
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    LMAO.  This is what happens when you don't commit to the run game.  The defense gets stuck on the field after Tom Brady builds up too large a 4th quarter lead yet again, leaving the other team in prime position to mount a devastating comeback.  People who understand logic and football know that I am the smartest person who ever lived.  Trolls and irrationals are stuck making excuses for Brady.  Pathetic.

    See what happens when they run the ball against Denver and Buffalo?  The defense makes plays and Tom Brady is relegated to handoff duty like he should be.  See???

    Tom Brady are you listening???  I will be so glad when you are gone and the Pats get back to winning super bowls using I-formations on every down.  LMAO I am so smart.  

     

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