the "system" sucks ,apparently.

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    the "system" sucks ,apparently.

    receivers can't learn the system.

    Receivers can't follow the system.

    The system requires anticipation of Brady's reads...  (Yeah sure, like mindreading someone within 2.5sec.)

    Can't bring in someone who doesn't know the system.

    Only Brady really knows the system. 

     

     

     

    Maybe the system really sucks.  time to simplify the system,  ya think...?

     

     

     
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    Time to change the GM.

     
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    Need a GM who isn't also the coach.

    Need to listen to the scouting department.

    This would be a good start.

     

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    Do not be surprised when at the end of this season the Patriots finish with a losing record and either do not make the playoffs or go one and done (even at home...), Robert Kraft cleans house, i.e. BB gone and TB traded.  Kraft is a shrewd businessman and will not hesitate to protect his investment whatever it takes...

     
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    Do not be surprised when at the end of this season the Patriots finish with a losing record and either do not make the playoffs or go one and done (even at home...), Robert Kraft cleans house, i.e. BB gone and TB traded.  Kraft is a shrewd businessman and will not hesitate to protect his investment whatever it takes...




    um, what?

     
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    So, the payoff in this system is more likely to succced over time and in the postseason as opposed to be easily gameplanned for and for your D to know what to do going into a game.


    Not sure I follow your argument here. The Patriots "system" has failed in the playoffs every year since 2004. So obviously, it can be gameplanned for and stopped.

     
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    receivers can't learn the system.

    Receivers can't follow the system.

    The system requires anticipation of Brady's reads...  (Yeah sure, like mindreading someone within 2.5sec.)

    Can't bring in someone who doesn't know the system.

    Only Brady really knows the system. 

     

     

     

    Maybe the system really sucks.  time to simplify the system,  ya think...?

     

     

     



    I'll disagree.  

     

    I think the "system" is large (playbook) and demanding, where most offenses in this league are simplified. Like, Gomer's offenses? Easy. His WRs and TEs all line up in rhe same spots every time. It's more about personnel advantages and execution rather than approach, deception or chameleonsque ability.

    When you think of our offenses from 2001-2004, what do you think of?  A chameleon ability from week to week which made it hard for defenses to gameplan. That's really the secret. It puts huge pressure on Ds when they aren't comfortable of what to focus on.

    We ask our WRs or TEs to move all over, know every route from every spot and know the adjustment based off of what coverage a D is showing. If the D hides the coverge, but you know what it is as you run the route (Cover 2 zone, maybe man, is there a blitz on, etc), Brady wants you to know what to do in your route.

    So, the payoff in this system is more likely to succced over time and in the postseason as opposed to be easily gameplanned for and for your D to know what to do going into a game.

    This is a big reason why Gomer is 3-9 outdoors career and 9-11 overall.  We all know what Denver will do.

    Decker to the left, over and over, Thomas to the right, a hybrid TE and maybe Caldwell in the slots.

    Over a season that stuff all is on film and then whamo, defenses have you caught cold. Believe it or not, Baltimore does not get by Denver last year if not knowing exactly what Gomer does. Same deal with our offense.

    I feel Brady wanted stats. He wanted Gomer weapons. HE got them, but he failed.

    I still like it this way, what we are now seeing this year so far. I actually think we did too much of what the Colts did in the past and what Gomer does now in Denver, which is why Brady has been stumbling. All is well during the regular season, but the wheels come off quick in January, don't they?

    It's great for the regular season and stats, but your WRs best all be on the same page in January and I think these ones truly will be, albeit sooner than that.

    Torry Holt came here and was blown away by the depth and responsibility of the scheme and playbook and that's because we essentially have two playbooks and two different offenses.

    I like the Weis one better. I think we will see more of our offense be like that, which will in turn make it a bit easier for these new players to learn. Simplified down, less plays to learn, add in more as you go.

     

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    Well...  You disagreed and then agreed. 

     

    The point is to run something within the capabilities of people who are running it.  It doesn't matter if Ernie Adams can sit in his office and smile at the perfectly designed structure of xs and o's.   hes not on the field and never was.  This esoteric version of football is only great until its on film.  somebody figures it out eventually. 

    Its so sophisticated, you're tricking your own people.  Change it up.  Its stale.  its played.  Move on to  something else.  Simpler .  Its football. 

     
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    receivers can't learn the system.

    Receivers can't follow the system.

    The system requires anticipation of Brady's reads...  (Yeah sure, like mindreading someone within 2.5sec.)

    Can't bring in someone who doesn't know the system.

    Only Brady really knows the system. 

     

     

     

    Maybe the system really sucks.  time to simplify the system,  ya think...?

     

     


    "only Brady really knows the system"

    that is a great line

     
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    the pats are 2+0 , they played 2 lame teams, i love the pats but i feel like it's going to be a long season, man i hate to lose, but i can hardly remember the last superbowl win.

     
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    the pats are 2+0 , they played 2 lame teams, i love the pats but i feel like it's going to be a long season, man i hate to lose, but i can hardly remember the last superbowl win.

     




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    Why Your Team Sucks 2013: New York Jets

    Some people are fans of the New York Jets. But many, many more people are NOT fans of the New York Jets. This 2013 Deadspin NFL team preview is for those in the latter group. Read all the 2013 NFL previews so far right here.

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    Your team: New York Buttfumbles

    Your 2012 record: 6-10. LET'S DO IT AGAIN, EVERYBODY!

    Your coach: Rex Ryan, who stopped enjoying this job roughly 15 months ago. The fat, swaggering, toe-licking Rex that was here at the turn of the decade has been replaced by a deflated balloon of a man, a man who lost his team ages ago and has already visibly lost his composure in postgame press conferences. It's only the third week of the preseason. This kind of complete systemic breakdown of a shitty team usually happens around November. For the Jets, it's been ongoing for the past 80 weeks. This is the only time the Jets will get a jump on the rest of the NFL.

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    Like the Panthers, the Jets saw fit to hire a new GM but keep their old miserable coach around. I will never understand the logic behind such gross inaction. This team was a train wreck last season—a train wreck that EVERY LIVING SOUL ON EARTH saw coming—and somehow, through a combination of laziness and cap mismanagement, they are in the EXACT same position as they were a year ago. In fact, they're worse.

    It says volumes about the Jets' current predicament that Ryan was pilloried by the local media for putting Mark Sanchez in harm's way: the same Mark Sanchez who is inarguably one of the worst quarterbacks in football, the same Mark Sanchez that has absolutely NO PRAYER of being with this team a year from now, whose potential cap hit was the only thing keeping him from being fired. Somehow keeping HIM upright is crucial to this team's short-term success. You could sabotage an entire team's season Max Bialystock-style and still not concoct a more hopeless situation than the one Rex Ryan is currently in.

    By the way, Marty Mornhinweg is your new offensive coordinator, because of course the Jets hired Marty Mornhinweg to be offensive coordinator.

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    Why Your Team Sucks 2013: New York Jets

    The truth is that the Jets quarterback is not any one person but rather an immense inter-dimensional void inside which time means nothing and all particles of light are crushed into nothingness. To look at the space behind the Jets' center is to have every blood vessel ripped away from your body. It is a thing that cannot be.

    Sanchez is awful, but what's far more alarming is that the Jets drafted someone to replace him (this is something teams should do!) and, again, EVERY LIVING SOUL ON EARTH already knows that he's a bust. They just drafted the Appalachian JaMarcus Russell. Not only did Geno Smith turn the ball over 60 times the moment he got into a preseason game, but he showed up to camp fat. Christ. This is a team that had Tim Tebow listed as one of their QBs last season, and yet somehow they are now worse off.

    Your fantasy player everyone will hate: Chris Ivory. This is who the Jets signed to replace the perennially disappointing Shonn Greene. If you've ever picked up Chris Ivory off of waivers (and you have), you know that he's the kind of back that can get you five yards a carry if you happen to have a historically prolific passing attack keeping defenses from crowding the box. The Jets do not have that. They have the opposite of that. Every time Ivory carries the ball, he will experience deep, deep pangs of regret. Bilal Powell is already primed to take his job. "Bilal" sounds like a way of preparing lamb on a stick.

    Why your team sucks: Let's do a little thought exercise. Pretend the Jets never existed. Go ahead. It's quite easy to do. Imagine an NFL with just 31 teams and only one franchise in New York. Now, imagine that an expansion group led by the shiftless, fame-whoring scion of a pharmaceutical company proposes the following to the NFL: "We're gonna have a SECOND team in New York! It'll play in the same stadium as the Giants, be horribly mismanaged, and will have the same kind of butthole fans as the Giants (NOTE: white bridge-and-tunnel trash buttholesfrom Long Island and Queens and Jersey all like to pretend they're different breeds of butthole, but they are not), just far less of them."

    Do you think the Ginger Hammer would accept that proposal? Of course not. He'd put a team in London and then demand the Brits stop paying national health care. The Jets don't need to exist. In fact, they are actively harmful. The Jets are the NFL's ruptured appendix. We've made fun of star-crossed franchises like the Browns and Lions and Bills here,

    but the Jets

    —who somehow managed to WIN a Super Bowl at one point—and unquestionably the laughingstock of the NFL. Not only do they lose, but they lose in the tackiest way possible.

     

    Their fans are insecure morons and their players are somehow even dumber.

     

    What purpose do they serve other than to hold themselves up for merciless ridicule?

    It gets even worse if you look past the fact that the Jets are using a lame duck head coach and lame duck QB for the second straight season. Even if you factor in an injured, washed-up Santonio Holmes, there is no one for the GENOCHISE to throw to. Stud rookie CB Dee Milliner is already nursing a calf injury. The front seven is aging and there are no good young players to waiting in the wings at linebacker or defensive line. The Jets are a team that is never completely rebuilding and never completely refining—they remain an odd mix of overpriced veteran talent and iffy young talent, like the pre-Melo Knicks. They are doomed to lose 10 games a year while laboring under the delusion that they have a stacked roster. And now Darrelle Revis is gone for good. This team should have been blown up two years ago. That they remain intact is not a testament to their determination but rather a glaring indictment of their stupidity.

    Also, screw Chris Berman for whenever he sang "Vinny & The Jets." The worst.

    Why your team doesn't suck: Everything is so convinced that they're gonna suck that maybe, just maybe, they WON'T suck. The NFL works like that sometimes, right? Well, I mean, it works that way for teams that aren't the Jets.

    The 17 worst Jets ever:

    1) Rich Kotite. They made him coach and GM. Never forget.

    2) Vernon Gholston

    3) Neil O'Donnell. O'Donnell, Kellen Clemens, Rick Mirer, and Quincy Carter (!!!!) have all started games for the Jets. That is a rough foursome. Keep in mind that Sanchez has been WAY more productive than any of those men.

    4) Dewayne Robertson. He can't miss! CAN'T MISS DINNER, THAT IS! ***RIMSHOT***

    5) Scott Frost

    6) Keyshawn Johnson/Alex Van Dike. Drafted together. Never ever draft wideouts in the first two rounds.

    8) Bubby Brister

    9) Travolta

    10) Ryan Yarborough

    11) Marvin Jones

    12) Browning Nagle. The Nagler!

    13) Blair Thomas

    14) Glenn Foley

    15) Lou Holtz

    16) Justin McCareins. I swear he was a fantasy sleeper once. That's how stupid fantasy football will make you.

    17) Sam Cowart

     

     
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    Do not be surprised when at the end of this season the Patriots finish with a losing record and either do not make the playoffs or go one and done (even at home...), Robert Kraft cleans house, i.e. BB gone and TB traded.  Kraft is a shrewd businessman and will not hesitate to protect his investment whatever it takes...



     

     
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    the pats are 2+0 , they played 2 lame teams, i love the pats but i feel like it's going to be a long season, man i hate to lose, but i can hardly remember the last superbowl win.

     




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    been a pats fan longer than you've been around, but in case you missed the game the pats have a lot of problems , that doesn't make me a jets fan , clown!!!

     
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    Not sure I follow your argument here. The Patriots "system" has failed in the playoffs every year since 2004. So obviously, it can be gameplanned for and stopped.

    2nd place is unacceptable.

     
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    the pats are 2+0 , they played 2 lame teams, i love the pats but i feel like it's going to be a long season, man i hate to lose, but i can hardly remember the last superbowl win.

     




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    been a pats fan longer than you've been around, but in case you missed the game the pats have a lot of problems , that doesn't make me a jets fan , clown!!!

     

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    Why Your Team Sucks 2013: New York Jets

     

     

    Some people are fans of the New York Jets. But many, many more people are NOT fans of the New York Jets. This 2013 Deadspin NFL team preview is for those in the latter group. Read all the 2013 NFL previews so far right here.

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    Your team: New York Buttfumbles

    Your 2012 record: 6-10. LET'S DO IT AGAIN, EVERYBODY!

    Your coach: Rex Ryan, who stopped enjoying this job roughly 15 months ago. The fat, swaggering, toe-licking Rex that was here at the turn of the decade has been replaced by a deflated balloon of a man, a man who lost his team ages ago and has already visibly lost his composure in postgame press conferences. It's only the third week of the preseason. This kind of complete systemic breakdown of a shitty team usually happens around November. For the Jets, it's been ongoing for the past 80 weeks. This is the only time the Jets will get a jump on the rest of the NFL.

    RELATED Why Your Team Sucks 2013: Carolina Panthers

    Some people are fans of the Carolina Panthers. But many, many more people are NOT fans of the Carolina Panthers. This 2013 Deadspin NFL team preview… Read…

    Like the Panthers, the Jets saw fit to hire a new GM but keep their old miserable coach around. I will never understand the logic behind such gross inaction. This team was a train wreck last season—a train wreck that EVERY LIVING SOUL ON EARTH saw coming—and somehow, through a combination of laziness and cap mismanagement, they are in the EXACT same position as they were a year ago. In fact, they're worse.

    It says volumes about the Jets' current predicament that Ryan was pilloried by the local media for putting Mark Sanchez in harm's way: the same Mark Sanchez who is inarguably one of the worst quarterbacks in football, the same Mark Sanchez that has absolutely NO PRAYER of being with this team a year from now, whose potential cap hit was the only thing keeping him from being fired. Somehow keeping HIM upright is crucial to this team's short-term success. You could sabotage an entire team's season Max Bialystock-style and still not concoct a more hopeless situation than the one Rex Ryan is currently in.

    By the way, Marty Mornhinweg is your new offensive coordinator, because of course the Jets hired Marty Mornhinweg to be offensive coordinator.

     

    Your quarterback: BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE BUTTFUMBLE.

     

    Why Your Team Sucks 2013: New York Jets

    The truth is that the Jets quarterback is not any one person but rather an immense inter-dimensional void inside which time means nothing and all particles of light are crushed into nothingness. To look at the space behind the Jets' center is to have every blood vessel ripped away from your body. It is a thing that cannot be.

     

    Sanchez is awful, but what's far more alarming is that the Jets drafted someone to replace him (this is something teams should do!) and, again, EVERY LIVING SOUL ON EARTH already knows that he's a bust. They just drafted the Appalachian JaMarcus Russell. Not only did Geno Smith turn the ball over 60 times the moment he got into a preseason game, but he showed up to camp fat. Christ. This is a team that had Tim Tebow listed as one of their QBs last season, and yet somehow they are now worse off.

     

    Your fantasy player everyone will hate: Chris Ivory. This is who the Jets signed to replace the perennially disappointing Shonn Greene. If you've ever picked up Chris Ivory off of waivers (and you have), you know that he's the kind of back that can get you five yards a carry if you happen to have a historically prolific passing attack keeping defenses from crowding the box. The Jets do not have that. They have the opposite of that. Every time Ivory carries the ball, he will experience deep, deep pangs of regret. Bilal Powell is already primed to take his job. "Bilal" sounds like a way of preparing lamb on a stick.

    Why your team sucks: Let's do a little thought exercise. Pretend the Jets never existed. Go ahead. It's quite easy to do. Imagine an NFL with just 31 teams and only one franchise in New York. Now, imagine that an expansion group led by the shiftless, fame-whoring scion of a pharmaceutical company proposes the following to the NFL: "We're gonna have a SECOND team in New York! It'll play in the same stadium as the Giants, be horribly mismanaged, and will have the same kind of butthole fans as the Giants (NOTE: white bridge-and-tunnel trash buttholesfrom Long Island and Queens and Jersey all like to pretend they're different breeds of butthole, but they are not), just far less of them."

    Do you think the Ginger Hammer would accept that proposal? Of course not. He'd put a team in London and then demand the Brits stop paying national health care. The Jets don't need to exist. In fact, they are actively harmful. The Jets are the NFL's ruptured appendix. We've made fun of star-crossed franchises like the Browns and Lions and Bills here,

     

    but the Jets

     

    —who somehow managed to WIN a Super Bowl at one point—and unquestionably the laughingstock of the NFL. Not only do they lose, but they lose in the tackiest way possible.

     

     

     

    Their fans are insecure morons and their players are somehow even dumber.

     

     

     

    What purpose do they serve other than to hold themselves up for merciless ridicule?

    It gets even worse if you look past the fact that the Jets are using a lame duck head coach and lame duck QB for the second straight season. Even if you factor in an injured, washed-up Santonio Holmes, there is no one for the GENOCHISE to throw to. Stud rookie CB Dee Milliner is already nursing a calf injury. The front seven is aging and there are no good young players to waiting in the wings at linebacker or defensive line. The Jets are a team that is never completely rebuilding and never completely refining—they remain an odd mix of overpriced veteran talent and iffy young talent, like the pre-Melo Knicks. They are doomed to lose 10 games a year while laboring under the delusion that they have a stacked roster. And now Darrelle Revis is gone for good. This team should have been blown up two years ago. That they remain intact is not a testament to their determination but rather a glaring indictment of their stupidity.

    Also, screw Chris Berman for whenever he sang "Vinny & The Jets." The worst.

    Why your team doesn't suck: Everything is so convinced that they're gonna suck that maybe, just maybe, they WON'T suck. The NFL works like that sometimes, right? Well, I mean, it works that way for teams that aren't the Jets.

    The 17 worst Jets ever:

    1) Rich Kotite. They made him coach and GM. Never forget.

    2) Vernon Gholston

    3) Neil O'Donnell. O'Donnell, Kellen Clemens, Rick Mirer, and Quincy Carter (!!!!) have all started games for the Jets. That is a rough foursome. Keep in mind that Sanchez has been WAY more productive than any of those men.

    4) Dewayne Robertson. He can't miss! CAN'T MISS DINNER, THAT IS! ***RIMSHOT***

    5) Scott Frost

    6) Keyshawn Johnson/Alex Van Dike. Drafted together. Never ever draft wideouts in the first two rounds.

    8) Bubby Brister

    9) Travolta

    10) Ryan Yarborough

    11) Marvin Jones

    12) Browning Nagle. The Nagler!

    13) Blair Thomas

    14) Glenn Foley

    15) Lou Holtz

    16) Justin McCareins. I swear he was a fantasy sleeper once. That's how stupid fantasy football will make you.

    17) Sam Cowart

     
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    the pats have problems , big time, they barely squeaked out 2 wins against 2 of the lamest teams in nfl, been watching the pats since early 70s so i guess that would make me a fan of them, not a jets troll, so who is frank dooley? what everyone supposed to bow down to you, i dont think so , clowny

     
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