Re: The worst ranked defense in the NFL is....
posted at 1/2/2012 12:20 PM EST
In Response to Re: The worst ranked defense in the NFL is....
[QUOTE]Right, but if you are playing a rookie QB, you have to think "he needs Peterson today more than ever" and they couldn't do anything. And Ponder looked good! I am just saying, they are the SB champs, but the facts tell us their healthy SB D which actually misses guys like Cullen Jenkins, Popinga, Barnett, Bigby, etc, is not as good as ours! Truth is actually reality sometimes. NE's Run D is clearly vastly superior to GBs. If NE had allowed 126 yards to CHicago's 3rd string QB and two PS RBs BY HALFTIME, BB would have been lynched in downtown Foxboro the next day. Please stop. Teams don't succeed on our D by running the ball. Against GB, that's mainly how you take GB to the hilt. Minny did it, KC succeeded, TB RAN ALL OVER THEM and almost beat them in GB. Remember? Let's not alter history here. The arrogance is out of control. GB's D is WEAK! Ours may not be good, but it's better than theirs! NE has allowed one lead back to over 100 yards all year (Helu). 9/10 thyey hold a lead back to under 80 yards rushing. Also, the 100+ yard game by Helu came without Spikes and experimenting with Anderson in the 3-4 OLB slot!!! Be fair and stop lying. The whole reason why we battled back against Dallas was because of our good run D!! After Dallas left here, DeMarco Murray ran amuck over the NFL! Go back and look at the games almost every lead back had against this D when we generally had our starters out there. Bush. Nope. Tolbert or Matthews. Nope. (gashed us in the passing game) Fred Jackson. Nope (gashed us in the passing game). McFadden/Bush Nope. Greene. Nope. Tomlinson had a big run but was a non-factor. Mendenhall. Nope. Murray, etc. Nope. Jacobs. Nope. I could go on and on. Some will say, teams pass, which is true, but in these games I just listed, what did those teams do to score points? Not much. In the worst cases, late against Giants, @ Pitt, it wasn't even offensive due to the other circumstances tied to what happened in those games. If GB lost AJ Hawk and their starting Safety late in a game, do they get better or worse against a team lke the Giants? Keep in mind, the Giants marched up and down the field at SF a GREAT D.
Posted by RidingWithTheKingII[/QUOTE]
What bugs me most about the excuse making some media morons make for GB's defense is the old, "they won the Super Bowl with that defense last year" nonsense.
Well, no, they didn't win the Super Bowl with THIS defense in 2011. Last year Collins was healthy and Cullen Jenkins was a Packer, not an Eagle. And, like Devin McCourty, who's been getting murdered on Internet boards like this all season long as "another draft bust," guys like T. Williams, who had a miraculous, out-of-nowhere season for GB last year have regressed, too.
It's simply NOT the same GB defense that won the Super Bowl last year. It isn't.
You could argue that Matthews, Raji and Woodson played at or near the same level as 2010, but the rest of the defense has not, and some of those guys ain't coming back before the playoffs start (like Jenkins, who's in Philadelphia, and Collins).
The Pats have a shot to reach Indy. Once there, just put the ball in Brady's hands because Rodgers or Brees will, no doubt, put up 35+ points on the Pats' defense--they do it against EVERY defense, so they'll certainly do it against NE.
The only team in the AFC field that scares me is Pittsburgh.
Baltimore doesn't--their defense is statistically strong but good offenses gave them trouble this season, and Flacco has regressed almost as badly as Sanchez did this year.
People focus way too much on the 2009 WC game here against the Ravens. We're talking about a totally different NE team in 2011. Totally. Also, two years ago Ray Lewis was still Ray Lewis. In 2011...not so much.