Re: Troy Brown: Same Refrain You Are Hearing From a Number of Us Here: Be Aggressive, Because Playing Soft Isn't Working
posted at 11/15/2012 11:08 AM EST
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to zbellino's comment:
In response to PatsEng's comment:
I'm with Babe on this one. The blitz was working and would have gotten to Manning or at least flushed him if they had just a second more but Hobbs tripping over his own two feet was what caused the TD, not the blitz.
I also remember that drive well and they were sending 3-5 players everytime. Hardly what I'd call all out blitz but who cares that D is drastically different then this one. It's like comparing apples to hooting owls at this point.
It's all about balance (I know people hate that word and have a hard time understanding it) but right now the Pats are the lowest % team in sending 5+ players in the league. They are sending them around 20% of the time. I don't expect them to send them on every play but knock that up to 30-40% and we are talking. Additionally how many 4th quarter drives do we see the Pats drop 8 and rush 3 and just give up one play after another? If I touch a hot stove I'm not going to touch it again repeatedly. That's what the Pats are doing. BB seems scared to death of giving up big plays yet we give up more big plays in the 4th then any other team in the league. When something that's meant to prevent big plays is actually causing them in more frequency are you afraid of giving up even more? It's time to be aggressive like in the StL game and just close things out. It's actually funny, the only times they appear to be aggressive to close out games is when they have a huge lead. But, there biggest issues tend to come when they are trying to hold a lead and become conservative on both sides of the ball
20%??? Is it that low?
Anywho. You aren't sending 6 men, no matter who you are, more than a few times a game.
Take a five man rush as a blitz, and I know that technically 6 makes it a blitz in a playbook.
NE doesn't send extra rushers. I don't think they do it because they feel like it looks good.
I think they do it because tackling, angles, assignments have been terrible in the back end.
Getting that extra man back there helps to cover that up. Whereas sending an extra man, who isn't really going to get to the QB anyhow, won't do much except expose Arrington or DMC to further abuse.
Not sure if a blitz is determined by 6 but yes sending 6 consistently is a bad idea but sending 5 isn't and that's what I'm saying. Believe it or not over the last 3 years they have been sending less and less rushes with extra rushers and this year might actually drop below 20% at the rate they are going.
The problem with your last statement is that it's not working. Has having the extra man in coverage worked in the least? Has it prevented wide open receivers? If it hasn't then that extra man in coverage is completely wasted. You might as well have 10 men on the field. Might as well use that extra man to try to apply pressure. Who knows what could happen. I certainly know the D looks much better when they are aggressive early in the game then when they start to drop back 8 late in the game
Blitzing is contextual. In the playbook stacks I've worked with, a true 'blitz' (and not what fans call a blitz, means sending one more man than the opponent has blockers.
I think having an extra man in coverage HAS worked as well as it can.
The alternative is having less men in coverage, and trading a few more sacks, for a few long six point plays.
Think about what it might look like in real time.
A lot of the 'blitz more' talk is rosy colored glasses chat.
No one stops to think about the impact of bringing a man up in Nickle/Dime. They think ... ooh, same coverage as now (poor) but more sacks. yay.
Dividing and assigning talent on defense is a zero sum game. I've had to do it with high school kids and even at that level, it is like moving a bucket underneath two leaky holes.
A lot of the time NE is out there against 3 or 4 wide, with 5 or 6 DBs. You need some LBers to stay home. You have a.) an empty middle between your seams. b.) Empty center field. c.) Empty perimter, d.) leave your CBs naked over the top, and always e.) one less player to make a tackle on a completed pass.
Unless you assume that the extra man gets to the QB every single time (not neccessarily w a sack but with pressure that results in an incomplete at least) you have to assume that there would be a rise in completed passes. That would be potentially treacherous to this DB crew who already have trouble.
Maybe as some of the kids get better with their assignments they will blitz more. Maybe the Talib move gives them some more freedom in that department. But for now, it makes complete sense to me why they do not. I wouldn't.