Re: Who do you think should stay and who should go?
posted at 1/20/2014 1:20 PM EST
In response to PatsEng's comment:
Here is a list of players that aren't the regular JAGs we pulled in at the last moment. Some are FA's, some underperformed their contracts, some have huge cap hits next year. Who would you resign, extend/restructure, or just plain show the door:
- RB LeGarrette Blount
- DE Andre Carter
- WR Austin Collie
- WR Julian Edelman
- LB Dane Fletcher
- TE Michael Hoomanawanui
- TE Matthew Mulligan
- LB Brandon Spikes
- T Will Svitek
- CB Aqib Talib
- C Ryan Wendell
- Danny Amendola - $4.8mil cap hit - $6.8mil cap hit if cut
- Vince Wilfork - $11.6mil cap hit - $7.5mil savings if cut
- Kyle Arrington - $3.6mil cap hit - $6.7mil cap hit if cut
- Logan Mankins - $10.5mil cap hit - $2mil savings if cut
- Sebastian Vollmer - $3.75mil cap hit - $2.7mil cap hit if cut
- Ghost - $3.8mil cap hit - $2.5mil cap savings if cut
- Steve Gregory - $3.5mil cap hit - $2.2mil saving if cut
- Sopo - $3.5mil cap hit - $2mil savings if cut
- Tommy Kelley - $2.6mil cap hit - $1.7mli saving if cut
- A. Wilson - $1.8mil cap hit - $670k savings if cut
- T. Wilson - $1.15mil cap hit - $1.2k cap hit if cut
Personally for me my list is:
Edelman - I'm not sure if they can resign him. If it's another Amendola deal it's not worth the risk given his past injury history. I'd like to resign him if possible but might not be able to afford to do so AGREE
Blount - Same as Edelman not sure if he priced himself out of town. He's a boom or bust player and is most certainly not the next Dillon but he's a good inside the T runner and compliments Ridley depending on opponent. AGREE
Hooman - He's not a starting caliber TE but he's a good #3. They should draft one this year and drafting one early with Gronk and Hooman is a good TE core. AGREE
Wendell - We have no depth at the OL and he did a decent job. He should also be cheap and there is no immediate drop in solution. We have too many holes to spend really early on a C in the draft so this might be the best solution. NO. CANT AGREE. WE NEED TO GET DOMINANT ON O AND D LINE. THAT MEANS C, RG, DT AND EVEN DE BECOME PRIORITIES. SIGN HIM BUT ONLY BACK UP MONEY.
Those to restructure/extend if possible:
Wilfork - Depending on how his recovery is going it's worth extending him. By extending you can reduce that cap hit from $11.5mil up to a possible $5.5mil. We'll need all that cap space this offseason AGREE
Mankins - Another massive cap hit that if you can extend by a couple of years and greatly reduce the pain with the cap AGREE BUT WANT HIM ON THE TEAM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.. HE IS CORNERSTONE OF THIS O LINE ...
Tommy Kelly - I'd try a restructure first. If Wilfork isn't ready to go we will need another body on the line. As with all UDFA's teams eventually figured out Siliga, Vellano, Chris Jones. No matter how good a coach is at getting the most out of guys there is a reason they went UDFA and in Siliga's case 4 teams. You can only get so much water out of rocks so you need talent upfront AGREE BUT EXPECTING TO KEEP HIM
Ghost - worth a extension and to lower that cap hit in half AGREE
Players to cut:
Gregory - obvious one to save a good amount of space NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE. AGREE HE IS NOT A REAL STRENGTH BUT IF HE IS BEST OPTION AVAILABLE YOU KEEP
A. Wilson - The next Rodney and the solution to the SS problem.............. yeah not so much AGREE BUT NOT A STRONG OPINION.... GUYS LIKE HIM CAN COME TO CAMP AND EITHER EARN A PLACE OR BE CUT
T. Wilson - is it safe to cal him a bust yet? $95k isn't worth the spot he takes up AGREE BUT NOT A STRONG OPINION.. GUYS LIKE HIM CAN COME TO CAMP AND EITHER EARN A PLACE OR BE CUT
Sopo - another obvious one to save $2mil. Useless waste of a draft pick and cap space
Players who imo can't be cut, signed, or restructured because of cap issues:
Arrington - a 4th CB being paid as a #1/2 CB....... another great move from this past offseason AGREE
Amendola - Dubbed Mr Clutch before even catching a ball in NE he was the bigger, stronger, fast, and younger version of Welker. Many said he'd make us forget about Welker. Well at least 2 parts were right. He is younger and he did make us forget about Welker, of course when your only stat in the big game is 1 drop and everything else is zero's it's hard to think anyone else could be that bad and so unclutch so naturally you forget about anyone else and just stare at him. He wasn't worth $3.5mil this season and if he does the same next season he most certainly won't be worth the $4.8mil but we can't afford to cap hit. Not to mention he's better than a JAG of the street for min wage we'd have to sign to replace him I THINK YOU ARE TOO HARSH ON HIM ALONG WITH MANY HERE.... PLAYING INJURED ALL YEAR...
Collie - People fall way to quick in love with players around here after a game or two. Collie is one hit away from forgetting his own name and I saw people wanting to sign him to multiple years? If he couldn't stay on the team this year and was released multiple times he's not worth spending money on AGREE. HE WAS STOP GAP
Talib - 2 years in a row he was injured in the AFCCG. Call it a fluke or not but the guy is always injured. He isn't worth speding money on. What good is it paying him $5mil a year for half a years worth of #1 CB performance only to get injured in the postseason? WHY DO SO MANY HAVE SUCH A QUICK PROBLEM WITH INJURIES. THIS IS THE NFL..
Total estimateed savings from my suggestions ~$14mil
estimateed after signings I sugessted ~$9mil
Agree with some things, not others.... some issues are fans equating injuries with bad player. Often not true.