Will next stop be Canton's Hall of Fame for Tedy Bruschi?.... I say YES! POLL

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    Will next stop be Canton's Hall of Fame for Tedy Bruschi?.... I say YES! POLL

    tedy was everything good about the NFL. not just on the field, but off it and in the total sum of his parts. how he came back from and handled his stroke issue are all points in his favor. Plus over a 8 year period or so, he was right there in tackles and impact plays at the inside linebacker position. he was so versatile. he could rush the passer and give a cool sack dance without coming across as a joey porter in his obnoxiousness or arrogance. then u could drop him back in coverage where he routinely picked off crucial interceptions with his good hands, even running a few back for touchdowns. in addition, bruschi became a fixture on special teams, playing on both the punt and kickoff teams. he was the unquestioned leader of the defense and the inspirational focal point of his super bowl winning teams. tedy was often undersized but never overmatched or outhearted! 
     
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    I love Tedy like all of New England. But he wasnt even one of the top 5 MLB's in the league during his prime
     
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    A great Patriot but not HOF material. Patriots HOF as soon as he is eligible though.
     
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    While I'd vote him in, the voters are members of the media. He simply didn't put up the stats. We all know how he was the heart of the defense in the SB years. But the voters are not Patriots fans. I would say his pure leadership, and his clutch plays was enough to put him in Canton. But I seriously doubt he'll even make it to the "finalist" status.
     
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    If  I were the Pats, I would retire his jersey. He was the heart of the Patriots for years. I do not think he is HoF material, though. But he was and is my favorite Patriot.

     
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    If the "writers" consider more than just stats, then the answer is "yes", Tedy should make it into the HOF. But the cold hard facts are that on the stats list, he is somewhere in the middle of the pack when you are talking about all time LB's in the NFL. 
    That aside, his contributions to the NFL and the Patriots franchise are immeasurable. If the voters would consider character, morals, passion, commitment, leadership and how he with BB reshaped a losing franchise into an NFL elite, the clear answer is "put Tedy in Canton". He for one has my vote, especially in the "it's all about me" NFL. He is a pure football player that BB described as "perfect", a true throwback to the LB's of old. 
     
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    [QUOTE]If  I were the Pats, I would retire his jersey. He was the heart of the Patriots for years. I do not think he is HoF material, though. But he was and is my favorite Patriot.
    Posted by docmartin72[/QUOTE]the pats do not retire numbers unless u make the national hall of fame. john habnnah's number per example, would be retired. however, as u could see during the preseason, a totl scrub like alwx smith was given #80 without any qualms from anyone. do not be surprised if as early as next year, we notice some undrafted rookie wearing #54.
     
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    Patriot's HOF, yes....Pro Football HOF, no.

    Only 19 LB's in the history of the game have been enshrined.

    Dick Butkus 1965-1973
    Harry Carson 1976-1988
    Jack Ham 1971-1982
    Jack Lambert 1974-1984
    Willie Lanier 1967-1977
    Ted Hendricks 1969-1983
    Dave Wilcox 1964-1974
    Andre Tippett 1982-1993
    Bobby Bell (also DE) 1963-1974
    Nick Buoniconti 1962-1974, 1976
    George Connor (also DT, OT) 1948-1955
    Bill George 1952-1966
    Joe Schmidt 1953-1965
    Sam Huff 1956-1967, 1969
    Ray Nitschke 1958-1972
    Mike Singletary 1981-1992
    Lawrence Taylor 1981-1993
    Derrick Thomas 1989-1999
     
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    " the voters are members of the media. He simply didn't put up the stats". 

    While he didn't have off the chart stats consistently, he made the stats that matter  WHEN THEY MATTERED MOST. 
     (Division Titles, Playoffs, Superbowls, how can that not be worthy of HOF production) 

    Bruschi was, and will forever be the Soul (as the heart may no longer beat) of the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

    I feel like I should retire my Bruschi Jersey.... 

    Best Wishes Teddy!!!!!
     
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    [QUOTE]I for one will say "yes". tedy was everything good about the NFL. not just on the field, but off it and in the total sum of his parts. how he came back from and handled his stroke issue are all points in his favor. Plus over a 8 year period or so, he was right there in tackles and impact plays at the inside linebacker position. he was so versatile. he could rush the passer and give a cool sack dance without coming across as a joey porter in his obnoxiousness or arrogance. then u could drop him back in coverage where he routinely picked off crucial interceptions with his good hands, even running a few back for touchdowns. in addition, bruschi became a fixture on special teams, playing on both the punt and kickoff teams. he was the unquestioned leader of the defense and the inspirational focal point of his super bowl winning teams. tedy was often undersized but never overmatched or outhearted! 
    Posted by bubbakilla[/QUOTE]

    The better question my little bug is should your mom and her brother be jailed for producing you?
     
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    I say yes he is, I dont know how you can play in 5 super bowls and win 3 and not be a hall of famer but he wont get in but he should.
     
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    He's borderline at best. I'd have to think about all the teams, but really, in his 13 years, how many of those years, if any, was he the best LB on the team?
     
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    No, he's not a Hall of Famer.  I was wondering how long it would take for this question to come up.  He made ONE Pro Bowl!! 

    This is the problem with the "Patriots' Way" (if it's truly a problem mind you...we all should have these problems).  You have to sacrifice personal glory for the team concept.  It's very successful, obviously, but this is the consequence.

    He could've gone the FA route and ended up in Chicago and racked up more stats.
     
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    [QUOTE]Patriot's HOF, yes....Pro Football HOF, no. Only 19 LB's in the history of the game have been enshrined. Dick Butkus  1965-1973 Harry Carson  1976-1988 Jack Ham  1971-1982 Jack Lambert  1974-1984 Willie Lanier  1967-1977 Ted Hendricks  1969-1983 Dave Wilcox  1964-1974 Andre Tippett  1982-1993 Bobby Bell  (also DE) 1963-1974 Nick Buoniconti  1962-1974, 1976 George Connor  (also DT, OT) 1948-1955 Bill George  1952-1966 Joe Schmidt  1953-1965 Sam Huff  1956-1967, 1969 Ray Nitschke  1958-1972 Mike Singletary  1981-1992 Lawrence Taylor  1981-1993 Derrick Thomas  1989-1999
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE] of that list, i am most familiar with carson and taylor for i lived in NY during some of their prime years. tedy is nowhere near taylor's level but certainly was at carson's. how long did it take carson to get in? no, tedy is not a first ballot guy but will eventually grt in via the bakdoor like jim rice did.. or perhaps with some veteran's committee. or perhaps after he becomes the next john madden or phil simms (another guy i would like to see in canton) on the airwaves, it could become a cumulative success thing and he will get in that way.
     
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    If the HOF had a category for heart, instincts, smarts, passion, leadership and overcoming impossibe odds then yes.

    Patriot HOF in 5 years.
     
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    Unfortunately, he won't make canton, but all of Patriot nation will be able to say that he and Troy Brown were the heart and soul of a whole generation of Patriots teams and thier fans. Forever to be enshrined at Gillette stadium in the Patriots Hall of Fame. Also, consider, how many HOFers have 3 SB rings with the same team? Thanks Tedy, for making it a great and memorable run. Good luck and God bless you and your endless heart, KMc
     
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    [QUOTE]No, he's not a Hall of Famer.  I was wondering how long it would take for this question to come up.  He made ONE Pro Bowl!!  This is the problem with the "Patriots' Way" (if it's truly a problem mind you...we all should have these problems).  You have to sacrifice personal glory for the team concept.  It's very successful, obviously, but this is the consequence. He could've gone the FA route and ended up in Chicago and racked up more stats.
    Posted by clouts[/QUOTE]


    Thanks for making the perfect argument for Tedy induction into the HOF.  The NFL is a team sport.  Teams win SB's, not individual players.  Barry Sanders was the best RB; how many times did his team make the playoffs?  Tedy played in 5 SB's, winning 3 of them.  He clearly was the leader of that defense in the 3 SB's they won.  He made everyone else a better player.  He was the QB of an excellent defense for many years.  If BB says Tedy was a perfect player, how can he not enter the HOF?  Why penalize players who see the big picture?  Running around making 15 tackles a game looks impressive; but i would take the player who make less tackles and is NEVER out of position. 
     
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    Because it's impossible to prove.  It's the "intangibles" argument.  He was rarely even the best player on their own defense. 

    On paper, you are correct.  However, he did nothing outstanding other than his job, and that, unfortunately, is not a hall of famer.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Will next stop be Canton for Tedy Bruschi.... Is he hall of fame worthy? POLL : of that list, i am most familiar with carson and taylor for i lived in NY during some of their prime years. tedy is nowhere near taylor's level but certainly was at carson's. how long did it take carson to get in? no, tedy is not a first ballot guy but will eventually grt in via the bakdoor like jim rice did.. or perhaps with some veteran's committee. or perhaps after he becomes the next john madden or phil simms (another guy i would like to see in canton) on the airwaves, it could become a cumulative success thing and he will get in that way.
    Posted by bubbakilla[/QUOTE]


    For what it's worth, Tedy Bruschi played in 1 pro bowl and was voted a 2nd team All-Pro once.  Harry Carson played in 9 pro bowls and was selected as an All-Pro 7 times (1st Team twice and 2nd team 5 times).

    This is not to take anything away from his career, personally I'd love to see him in the HOF, just don't think he has the credentials.

     
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    I loved him when he played but he's not even close to Canton HOF.

     
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    Tedy had a great career ... but I just don't see him getting into the HOF. 

     
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    While he didn't have off the chart stats consistently, he made the stats that matter  WHEN THEY MATTERED MOST. 
     (Division Titles, Playoffs, Superbowls, how can that not be worthy of HOF production) 


    That is one reason why I would vote for him (were I a voter). Unfortunately, the voters (who are from the media mostly) do not look at it that way. They look at things like pure stats, and how many times you went to Hawaii! Another thing that makes him worthy IMO is his leadership skills. He directed the defense for years, was instrumental in bringing the younger guys along, and motivated the rest of his teammates. To me he was the consummate football player. But the HOF voters are more interested in flash, not substance.


    The better question my little bug is should your mom and her brother be jailed for producing you?


    Jailed? How about sending them to Texas and giving them the death penalty! They don't let you grow old on death row down there! At the very least they should be made to get "fixed" so that they cannot produce any more offspring!


    The NFL is a team sport.  Teams win SB's, not individual players.  Barry Sanders was the best RB; how many times did his team make the playoffs? 


    While that is true, the HOF is based on individuals. It does seem like an oxymoron, but that's how it is. Indeed, the "Patriot Way" is not condusive to getting your gold jacket. But I agree, I'd rather have a Bruschi than a guy who is only out to make highlight reels. The affect Tedy had on the rest of the team was priceless. It just doesn't translate into a bronze bust, unfortunately!


     

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