Re: A Game--Propose a trade and see who has a trade happen-or close to it.
posted at 12/2/2012 3:37 PM EST
In response to MadMc44's comment:
I'm not giving up on Ben but it's getting close. I'm getting close to believing this could be the beginning of a two year "bridge." There is nothing he says that gives me confidence in him as a leader.
We'll see--he could make a signing and a trade to keep the fans into buying tickets.
I'm looking at this season as potentially worse than last season if the Sox make no more moves and CHOOSE to go with the 40 man roster Ben has established.
They are getting three guys off the DL--Ortiz, Middle and Lackey. They have two new players in David Ross and Jonny Gomes. They have a new manager and Coaching Staff.
They have a rotation of: Lackey, Buch, Doubie, Lester and Morales
Pen: Bailey, Aceves, Melancon, Miller, Breslow
Bat. Order: Ells, Pedroia, Middle, Ortiz, Gomes, Salty, Kalish, Ciriaco, Sands/Gomez,
Bench: Gomez, D. Ross, Iggy,
Are you confident????
So what happens to this years $80 M savings???
What happens to the Ben Statement--we will have a high payroll??
How confident are you Ortiz will return from his injury?
How confident are you that Lackey will be a capable starter again?
Middlebrooks ---sophmore Jinx??
I see maybe a signing and a trade---don't they need more to get a playoff spot--is this JH's MO from his Florida Marlins pre sale days??? More to come may mean just that--come Jan. a 4 Sale Sign goes up on Yawkey Way.
Man, the sky is falling!
I agree that the current team won't do it, but we get a significant upgrade from last year IF Ortiz, WMB, Pedey, and Ells can stay healthy for the year, or at least the majority of it. Those are four solid bats that we did not have for a significant part of the year. Ells and WMB especially. It's just a fact that if your lineup gets hurt, you are in for a long season.
When Middlebrooks came up, he was mentioned with Trout and Harper as one of the best rookies, then he got hurt. He's definitely a keeper, which is why I would have Bogaerts getting reps at first.
1st base: Napoli seems to be a favorite. If not, I would kick the tires on Berkman for a 2-year contract and have Bogaerts take over after a year or so at first in AAA. Another option would be Kendrys Morales. He is coming off a broken ankle that had him sidelined more than a season, but the Angels have Pujols and Trumbo to cover first. Morales was cheap last year at $3M (slightly less). He was a beast before he broke his ankle. If the Dodgers pick up Grienke, offer Lackey for Morales. Morales can also DH obviously. Unfortunately, here in Hawaii we get ALL of tha Angels games.
Outfield: OK, no Stanton... But I would inquire first. I agree with another poster that Miami would torch the stadium if Stanton goes anywhere.
Next, J Upton would cost alot in a trade, but he does have a very affordable contract given where contracts are tending now.
I would kick the tires on Hamilton for 5 years, 3 guaranteed, and 2 vesting option years. Would be interesting to get him on a contract similar to Lackey's, except where a substance abuse issue causes him to work for the league minimum in the next year.
I would try to keep JBJ to take over for Ells. Ells is great when healthy, but he would worry me on a long-term contract.
Pitching: If we send Lackey to the Angels, I would try to trade Ells for Lee. As others have indicated, this would give Philly a great outfield piece. Red Sox would have their ace.
Just ideas for now, but most of the off-season is still ahead of us. If we are in the same boat by February 1, 2013, I will join you with "the sky is falling". I don't believe that all of our prospects will perform as well as everyone thinks, and I do not want to wait 2-3 years to find out.