Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III
posted at 9/29/2011 1:44 AM EDT
In Response to Re: A Realistic Look at 2011: Part III
[QUOTE]Well guys, that's it. I'm stunned
. Like many other games this month, we played well enough to win, but we didn't. For me a pivotal moment came late when we had Ells at third and Pedey at first, and we couldn't score. Big Papi's attitude walking back to the bench told me he KNEW that was the moment where he or someone was supposed to step up. Too many runners with no timely hits. Until the last two nights I have not subscribed to Harness's views that the pitching coach was part of the problem, but the last two nights have me considering. Listening to the announcers "Well, he's thrown 14 fastballs in a row, and you can't do that with professional hitters," or just the fact there was no one up in the bullpen with Lester obviously hanging by a string in the most important game of the year, just a general non spontaneous approach to what was happening on the mound--or on the field. I guess we should all reflect a bit. But for me not enough guys on this team think they can win regardless of circumstances or act like winners. In 2007 everyone knew they were going to win. Where that attitude comes from I would like to discuss here. From above? From fellow players? One final thing. I know some posters here generally don't like the bunt. With this team we don't need it often, but it should be in the arsenal for special situations, games. Ells on 3rd and Pedey on 1st in a low run game that means the year with little hitting occurring--wouldn't that have been a spot? Maybe unfairly, but in the light of what ultimately happened?
Posted by Critter23
That pretty much sizes it up, Crit
. Stunned. The chances of this happening a month ago were nil...as nil as seeing Tampa down 7-0 and win 8-7 in a late comeback.
From the perspective of a seasoned horse player, we were a nag that lost by a nose.
Now I'll throw you a curve. While most gamblers will look at a race lost by a nose and say "Geez! Lousy FKN luck!". I don't see it that way. I'm of the belief that if that race were run again, that unlucky
horse would find a different way to lose by the same margin. I'll cite UR allusion to Paps throwing nothing but heat as an example.
The pressure of the situation last night kept Paps from trusting his secondary pitches. He was pitching
afraid to cough it up. As a result, he threw too many pitches, and it caught up to him tonight. Now ya know why Tito carefully watches his pitcher's workload.
So, who's to blame? Lavernway? No. Because Paps was calling his own game. That was clearly apparent with the long stares (his way of shaking off signs) and frequent meetings. Was it on the pitching coach/MGR? Why didn't someone come out and say "Man. You're not pitching. You are throwing a predictable arsenal".
IMO, Tito's approach is to leave it to Paps or to Young in that they have been there before. This hands-off approach may prove to be his exit out of Boston.
At the same time, a control freak could make things worse. If Tito is Theo's mouth piece, and Young follows suit, then the issue is in the FO. If Young is not cutting it with the pitchers (and I strongly believe he is responsible for much of the erratic form we have witnessed this month - and all year for many pitchers), then it's on his bosses to recognize it. If they can't, then it's on Henry and Co. to realize that.
A nose or a neck or 5 lengths, it's gonna end up costing heads.