Re: A Realistic look at 2012: Part I
posted at 1/11/2012 12:39 PM EST
How many inaccuracies can you say in one post Burrito?
I have around 9000 or so posts. Does that disqualify me?
It's not about popolarity. It should be about quality. As with most elections, it's often decided by the wrong criteria.
I didn't say Bautista was using PEDS. I said SPORTSWRITERS MIGHT NOT VOTE FOR BAUTISTA IN THE MVP VOTE AS MUCH BECAUSE HE WAS SO TAINTED ( many sportswriters think he might be a PED user and have written about it extensively as I proved over and over with articles cited ). There clearly has been suspicion in the sportswriter venue for a long time. I didn't start it. I noted it's existence in the context of their MVP vote potential. That's called INSIGHT. It's valid data.
I had to argue that statement for a week when virtually all of you stood by and didn't say a thing when my statement got distorted over and over. It turns out that Ellsbury did edge him out BTW. When people distort positions like that I FOR ONE WILL STEP UP AND GIVE MY SUPPORT TO THE ONE BEING TREATED THAT WAY.
i've stated several times how much respect i have for Moon as a poster. I could list 5 or 6 things I have disagreed with him on significantly but he has reasoned arguments and contributes a lot here, OBVIOUSLY. Moon has insight and he contributes greatly here. He's probably still poster of the year in my view. He's just not perfect. None of us are.
The Yankees fans are high fiving each other over how Kim played us ( Moon especially apparently ) into thinking he was a quality poster when he is now showing himself to be a troll of "Babe" proportions. That is what started this. I think you are generally a good person Burrito, and you are unfortunately collateral damage in this discussion. I'm sorry about that. Kim was the main issue.
Expitch has some insight, even if as I suspect a lot of it is fiction writing ( I could be wrong there ). I value insight more than most I guess. Friendships have proven to be largely worthless here, as HArness has exhibited over and over ( how many votes did he get?).
This forum is an intellectual discussion where some people throw each other under the bus regularly, or ignore it when others are doing it, simply because they want others to agree with them. What is integrity worth to each of us? On a sports forum apparently not much. Isn't it easy to see how BS some people are here. Lots of people intentionally lie here. And many of us could not admit the slightest mistake if their life depended on it. Why play along with that?
I don't want to offend people. Maybe I'm just autistic, because the filter doesn't seem to work with me as it does for others apparently. When someone makes a bonehead decision like that "Poster of the Year Roster" I comment about it. I hesitated to do it until Kim displayed himself in full colors ( you all can believe it's a girl if you want ). It looked like Moon just slocked it out, unlike his normal meticulous work. I don't know why. I prefer to think it was with good intentions but he just slocked it out.
I had a great year in 2011. I really did and very few noticed apparently. Fine, that's ok. I think it was an insult to many of us though to see that list as it was comprised. Was it really a list of great posters? We all do things sometimes without thinking. I don't think Moon put a lot of thought into it because if he did I think it would come out differently IMO.
This is not to say there were not a lot of great posters there. Notin is a good one. Tom, Hill, Katz. Harness gives us a ton of volume even if he is stubborn and misguided sometimes. He is the kind of guy who would throw kids in the "pokey" to make his point sometimes if he were a teacher. Absolutely the forum police to the extreme but he does contribute a lot. That counts also to me.
JoeBriedy posts almost never ( it seems to me ) but he is dead on when he does every time IMO. Chip was great. Bill Lee was great. Guys like Red, and Zil and Youk with his poems...etc. all are worthy. I like 10-20 more who could fit on that list. It wouldn't take much time to do a multithread poll of nothing but quality posters and still some would get left out but that's no big deal as long as the roster is solid.
Once a year only and the originator should not be on the list of options. Even that might not be advised.