Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from Shtarka. Show Shtarka's posts

    Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Big Papi has always struck out alot. He has frequently led the team in strikeouts. His career average is 1 k every 4.5 at bats. Last year he wiffed 145 times, almost  a 1 to 3 ratio, his worst year ever. This year?   22K's with 190 AB's. Ortiz has the fewest K's as  well as the lowest ratio, 1 k every 9 AB's, in the starting lineup- an amazing turrn around. How is this happening? Is he seeing the ball better? Has he changed his batting stance? Did he need a full year off PED's?
     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from notin. Show notin's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Can we just one time have a baseball stats post without a completely unsupported PED accusation?
     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from LloydDobler. Show LloydDobler's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Not to mention the fact that PEDs have nothing to do with your frequency of hitting the ball.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from J-BAY. Show J-BAY's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    he also isn't hitting for power as much, just making good contact and using the whole field. ortiz said he and others have been watching adrien gonzalez' approach at the plate.
     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from georom4. Show georom4's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    amazing stat....good stuff
     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from Shtarka. Show Shtarka's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Georom4- thanks.....Ortiz is making consistent contact, not simply trying to power the ball...will be fun watching him and the rest of the lineup through the season...
     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from SinceYaz. Show SinceYaz's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    That is good stuff, from the OP to the other posts.  I was always aware of Big Papi's big swing, but if he's watching and learning from Adrien, supah!

    He is still hitting for power ... 10 HRs ain't bad so far.  But not ALWAYS swinging for the fences.  Makes  him a much more rounded - therefore dangerous - player.
     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from LloydDobler. Show LloydDobler's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Yes, I should have pointed that out earlier, that is a great stat.

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from fivekatz. Show fivekatz's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Well according to those who have interviewed Ortiz and watched him say he is laying off of the high inside pitch. He used to offer at it and it created a lot of swing and misses.

    The other thing he has done and this has really helped as well is that he is altering his approach with two stikes in the count, staying back longer and willing to cut down his swing and take the ball the other way. It not only has pumped up his average, it cut down on K's.

    This may be equal parts of self recognition of his limitations as he has aged and the fact that he doesn't feel like he has to be the biggest stick in the line-up and that probably wasn't the case since 2008.

    So yes he altered his approach at the plate.
     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from Boomerangsdotcom. Show Boomerangsdotcom's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    The guy can hit a fastball again. That is big. He is putting up great numbers. He and Adrian alone could carry this team but the supporting cast is contributing in a big way also. This team will rival the Yanks in runs scored right to the end.
     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from dannycater. Show dannycater's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Ortiz learned that hitting to all fields is the right way to approach his hitting. He spend the past few years trying to muscle pull to right no matter what, which allowed shifts to own him. He altered his philosophy and that's why he is hitting the way he has this year.
     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from lightningbrain. Show lightningbrain's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    In Response to Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi:
    [QUOTE]Can we just one time have a baseball stats post without a completely unsupported PED accusation?
    Posted by notin[/QUOTE]

    Unsupported?  I thought Big Pappi was a pretty good source for whether Big Pappi used PEDs.
     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from royf19. Show royf19's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Ortiz certainly is hitting home runs. The only problem right now is that he's still under .200 w/RISP. Last year he was close to .300.

    Cafardo wrote today about Ortiz that his RBIs are down because with Youk and A-Gon in front of him, he doesn't have as many opportunities. That may be true, but it's not the big reason.

    Here's how the three are doing w/RISP

    AGon: 76 PA 1 HR 34 RBI .381 BA .936 OPS
    Youk: 70 PA 4 HR 27 RBI .278 BA, 1.044 OPS
    Oritz: 61 PA 1 HR 11 RBI .148 BA .452 OPS (only 8 hits, 6 BBs and 1 SF)

    So yes, he has fewer opportunities, but he's still not making the most of what chances he has.)

    Going forward, he needs to do better w/RISP. That's his job -- to drive in runs. Last year when he batted .270, he batted .298 w/RISP. His career BA is .281 and his career BA w/RISP is .293.

     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from fivekatz. Show fivekatz's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    In Response to Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi : Unsupported?  I thought Big Pappi was a pretty good source for whether Big Pappi used PEDs.
    Posted by lightningbrain[/QUOTE]Actually the source was pretty poor. It was leaked by somebody with an agenda in prosecutors office in the Bonds case.

    Since MLP lost custody of the test results to the Fed that is know about the positive test from 2003 according to MLB and the MLBPA is that it was for a banned substance on the list. That could have been a nutritional supplement like Andro, amphetamines, a masking agent or PEDs.

    Unlike others when confronted with the leaks, he didn't either ignore it or give it up and say he did it. Now that doesn't mean a ton, lots of guys have denied usage only to be found out later as lying.

    But the leak of Papi having a negative in 2003 testing by itself doesn't even establish PEDs only a banned substance on the list or an initial indication of one, as MLB and the MLBPA both have said the test were only used as % of population markers and deeper analysis of any one test was not done.

    This is also doesn't explain how Ortiz unless he switched to designer steroids or HGH has avoided further positives for what is now going on 7 years. 
     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from Wolfpack13. Show Wolfpack13's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    The Lloyd Dobler... i disagree. PEDS can affect your strikeout numbers. By increasing your strength  and staving off fatigue bat speed increases and players can wait much longer on the ball. That's why Bonds was such a freak of nature. He was so strong he choked up on the bat waited til the last second (rarely chasing pitches outside the zone) and then hitting with power.
    For the record PEDS and any enhancing performance drugs "can" help with ALL aspects of hitting... from power, to avg., to strikeouts.
     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from fivekatz. Show fivekatz's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    Wolfpack, you are right about one thing, Bonds was a freak of nature. Without Peds he was going to be 500/500 guy. He was extrordinary without PEDs, an XBox creature with them.

    Most of the players associated with PEDs did not see remarkable improvement in their swing and miss ratios. There SLG improved because warning track hits mad the gaps or the stands. As a result there might have been some increase in walks as pitchers worked more carefully to that hitter to avoid the increased power.

    What is happening with Ortiz is different IMO. Two things have transpired. He has avoided a slow start and he is going to the opposite field when behind in the count with greater frequency. This is because he has changed his approach to fit the count. The and he has stopped offering at pitches up and in (which are hard to get called strikes on) and forced the pitcher to throw more to middle or away.

    PEDs are a great fascination among fans I just don't get at any rate. They sure as heck did not make David Segui a HOFer and Brady Anderson could get no lasting uptick from them.

    It is a scab IMO better left unscratched for the most part. I don't think most RS fans want to think about why the careers of favorites like Nomar and Trot fell off of a cliff in paralell with more rigid testing.
     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from harness. Show harness's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    The poor hitting with RISP tends to even out. Also, he said he's laying off the  outside pitches - the ones where he used to go fishing. My guess is, he may be sacrificing some aggressiveness for better plate coverage.

    He's a great hitter who continues to make the necessary adjustments. And now he has a terrific sounding board in AGONE.
     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from royf19. Show royf19's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    In Response to Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi:
    [QUOTE]The poor hitting with RISP tends to even out. Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    I hope this is the case. Sometimes a player simply has a bad year in those situations, which sometimes fluctuates, but hopefully Ortiz will come on strong in those situations.
     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from digger0862. Show digger0862's posts

    Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi

    In Response to Re: Amazing batting statistic for Big Papi:
    [QUOTE]Ortiz certainly is hitting home runs. The only problem right now is that he's still under .200 w/RISP. Last year he was close to .300. Cafardo wrote today about Ortiz that his RBIs are down because with Youk and A-Gon in front of him, he doesn't have as many opportunities. That may be true, but it's not the big reason. Here's how the three are doing w/RISP AGon: 76 PA 1 HR 34 RBI .381 BA .936 OPS Youk: 70 PA 4 HR 27 RBI .278 BA, 1.044 OPS Oritz: 61 PA 1 HR 11 RBI .148 BA .452 OPS (only 8 hits, 6 BBs and 1 SF) So yes, he has fewer opportunities, but he's still not making the most of what chances he has.) Going forward, he needs to do better w/RISP. That's his job -- to drive in runs. Last year when he batted .270, he batted .298 w/RISP. His career BA is .281 and his career BA w/RISP is .293.
    Posted by royf19[/QUOTE]
    Big Papi is no longer clutch? Say it isn't so! I guess you can't argue with the numbers. My guess is these numbers will improve.
     

Share