Re: Athletes and religion
posted at 3/3/2012 10:42 AM EST
In Response to Re: Athletes and religion
[QUOTE]Jesus was against many of the rules of the Jewish townspeople of the Old Testament. The Old Testament is full of stories about injustice and cruelty, Stonings, war, murders, violence, bloody sacrifices, human sacrifices, etc. Many stories are symbolic and should not be taken literally such as Noah's Arc, Jonah and the Whale, the Parting of the Red Sea, the Burning Bush. Christians rely on the New Testament. If you want to nitpick the Old Testament then you should be debating someone of the Jewish faith. Jesus threw the money changers out of the Temple, forgave prostitutes, forgave criminals, was against many laws made by the locals, and was despised by the Jews in power and the Romans. Many of the verses being quoted by WO from the Old Testament aren't going to promote the message of the New Testament and Jesus Christ. Cherry-picking inconsistencies found in the Old Testament and using that to disregard the entire Bible is nonsense. Read the Remix interpretation of the New Testament ( Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, +++) to get a better handle on a loving and forgiving God and his Son.
Posted by lowelll[/QUOTE]
The point is what makes the writing of the New Testament more truthful than that of the Old? Where do you draw the line in what is real and what is not.
And what is a remix - did someone re-engineer the New Testament? Is that like the remastering of Sgt. Pepper? Who decides who gets to do this stuff? As for this loving and forgiving God, don't even let me start putting together a list of things that show a loving and forgiving God cannot exist.
And there is no such thing as non-believers. I believe in science and historical accounts backed with evidence. I believe that Jesus of Nazareth did exist and that he was a Holy man who preached very cool things. As for everything that follows, well that is where you lose me.
And if to say that I have been wrong all these many years and when I die, I wound up at the Pearly Gates and questions are being asked of me, I will remember your words here about this loving and forgiving God and will surely walk right through. Unfortunately for you, if I am right, you will not be able to look back at this conversation and go, wow - those heathens were right because you will be like me, worm food who becomes part of the circle of life.
And remember all, no disrespect is meant to any of you of true religious conviction. I applaud your deep sincerity towards your beliefs. And nothing I say is meant to change your opinions. This is just a conversation, except for Hanky, who obviously has no clue about anything. He likes to talk down to people and that certainly is not the ways of a good Christian.
And FTR - I posted those writings from the Old Testament to show WO that we can all pick and choose different things from these books to prove a point.